######### did they do to freddy

They could pull another nurse and make her iris hinder her. I honestly wouldn't be surprised at that either.

Like mories and keys were about to be changed.

we need more context, I assume you are a veteran who havent touch the game for 2 years and just came back to find out Freddy is now one of the strongest killer in the game that also hated by everyone and their grandma?

Which in most cases makes sense, but with so many other effecting factors. Freddy's 70% winrate isn't because he is good, it's because kit doesn't limit the player. His kit gives back the power role to the Killer, and gives the player freedom to actually apply all of their skills in a single match. Meaning the survivors are actually facing a balanced Killer for once. The game is too easy for Survivors - most don't bother to learn even the basic's of the game. How easy it is to play Survivor, when you mainly play survivor also builds entitlement. With so many factors that give survivors second chances without any real skill build entitlement aswell. So then when they do face a moderately good, or expert level Killer they cry they were OP, or they mistakenly accuse the Killer of playing unfairly. I can't even count how many games I play Nurse and get accuse of Camping/Tunnel, simply because I have expert tracking skills, and am on top of all 4 survivors for the entire match. That's not camping, or tunneling. Which is why the only players that don't have an issue with Freddy are the ones who have learned how to play Survivor properly.

The problem I am seeing. I am so high in ranks with Killer I have long wait times, because I only get matched against strong 4man swf. My Freddy games I win about 45% of the time because he's easy to beat, or I am against a team that is just fooling around making it easy. I get all my wins from Spirit and Nurse. I can't play any Killer anymore because they don't have the ability to traverse the map quick, or is severly lacking in other areas.

Then we have twitch streamers creating a poor look on the game as well. Players looking up to Otz, Tofu, and Tru3 as these "godlike" killer players, when they havn't reached the top either. I completely stomped them which in turn made even themselves say on stream that "Survivors are too strong", but yet that's the only thing the viewer base doesn't listen to?

It's dissapointing to see in these forums too. Barely any of the Survivors in these forums know how to play the game right, and it shows in their responses. The lack of knowing how to counter Freddy, when to counter Freddy is as easy as playing Survivor right - that's it. Know how to loop. Know your map layouts. Always be on gens. Everything else is extra. To beat a good Freddy you gotta know how to wake up, and stay awake in a way that doesn't waste time. (I.E. Failing checks when Freddy's distracted, forcing him have to choose his chase or teleport/run to you. Waking up everyone after a hook save. Looping/Fixing Gens towards your clock).

The game is in a sorry state right now, and when they Nerf Freddy because their playerbase doesn't want to learn the game. I can only see the game getting worse from there till we have another Deathgarden (because this exact same thing happened to Deathgarden). Which if you don't know what Deathgarden is, you shouldn't be giving opinions on the forum till you educate yourself more on BHVR's company itself.

"Look I agree freddy does have counters, and is balanced when your in a good swf. The problem is as soon as you have one weaker player freddy is just able to absolutely snowball off of that and gen wins he doesn't deserve."

So the Killer doesn't deserve the win, for playing literally the first thing the in game tutorial tells you to do? The Killer doesn't deserve the win for doing exactly what ever "educational DBD streamer" tells you to do? The Killer doesn't deserve the win for playing exactly how the dev's said they intend for you to do.

What's the point of playing Killer if you're not meant to exploit the Survivors weaknesses, and maximize on their mistakes?

That's not what Killers powers should be about at all. THEY ARE THE POWER ROLE. They should have THE POWER. That's the most confusing part of this game. Survivors literally have so many things that gives them more power, with 0 fall back. Without perks, you have Windows, Lockers, and Pallets. With Perks, you have things like Decisive Strike, Borrowed Time, Dead Hard, Iron Will, etc. All these things that make you incredibly stronger, and gives free seconds chances - but supposed to be the weaker role?

Because of this there already is very little dynamic gameplay.

I like this little timbit;

"PREVENTING SKILLFUL PLAYS on the survivor side, which is what happens with freddy. Hold m1 on gens, throw pallets instantly, hell looping him is boring as hell. I would rather loop a nurse or huntress ANYday."

Here's a suggestion, don't throw pallets instantly against Freddy, and yes it's faster to do gens when you are holding m1. You're welcome for the two facts that literally applys for all Killers, and the only people that don't have problems agastin Freddy are the Survivors THAT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.

Thank-you for pointing that out. Yes that's the easiest way of putting it. Just be a better Survivor. When the Survivor is awake. Freddy is nothing more than a m1 Killer with a base movement, if they are getting hit at all - I'm sorry, but they need to learn how to play survivor better.

... Why would you run Tinkerer on Freddy. Tinkerer doesn't hide dream world lullaby, and doesn't stop blood from spewing from Gens.

Quite literally that's all you had to say to confirm to me that you don't know enough about what you are talking about to actually have a strong argument. Tinkerer on Freddy is so incredibly weak, against good survivors he's completely stomped. Waste of a perk slot, when you need 4 consistent perks on any Killer to even have barely a chance against a strong team of Survivors. Next you're going to tell me that you have trouble against Ruin/Undying, and make yourself look like a complete fool.