stop complaining about the mori change
Franklins can delete keys brought into a match
hoarder reduces the likelihood of finding keys in a match
The likelihood of someone bringing a key or finding one is less likely then the amount of times mori have been burned or executed within a match.
Listen at the end of the day if you complain about moris or keys being nerfed you are just a crutch reliant player. If i heard they were being removed from the game completely I wouldn't care because I barely use them.
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I'm with you and everything, but I just wanna point out your 2nd point isn't actually true anymore. Unless they worded it poorly, they removed the text that said hoarder reduces the rarity of items in chests. So all that perk does now is spawn 2 extra chests and give you a notification when someone picks up an item. Literally went from bad to even worse, and it didn't even work on release either. What a sad series of events this poor perk has been through already lmao.
My guess is they didn't know how to decrease the rarity of items in the chests, or they couldn't get it to work so they just removed the text in its entirety
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I kinda want to make a thread that just says "stop complaining about complaining about the Mori change". Then hopefully some1 else will make another one that's "stop complaining about complaining about complaining about the Mori change". Then it keeps going on and on.
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Franklin's doesn't work against keys if survivors stash them in some place at the start of the game.
Mori nerf is fine, keeping keys as they are aka "A-bomb for swf" is not.
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oh well didnt see that rip
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They will change tho. Just seems like killer mains are mad that they didnt come out together. A key doesnt guarantee anything unless we are talking about a good swf in which case they dont even need keys. If anything its more important to nerf moris before keys.
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Maybe its also the fact that when things do change it's killers that get hit first before survivors and that's if survivors get hit with a nerf to balance what killers got hit with for example ruin got nerfed before toolboxes, PGTW got nerfed to 45 seconds because killers had to much time to use it Killers ask for the same thing to DS or for conditions on it to be adjusted and nothing and now mori with only key will at some point. Whats the bet that the undying + ruin combo will prob get hit first before keys and yet UB + DS won't get touched, yes there has been other changes in the game to both sides but if you look at what got changed on one side and it's counter part to the other Killers get hit first before survivors and saying "Franklins can delete keys brought into a match" that's fine to say that but is every killer going to use 1 perk slot in case survivors do a last second swap to bring in a key.
If you want bring Franklins in to hold any counter to keys then lock survivors at the 30 seconds left so they can't last second switch to another one, as the devs said there just skins so survivors shouldn't have a problem with there survivor being locked in at 30 seconds?
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Here is the thing, Initially I liked ruin+undying I thought it the kind of edge a lot of killer would need so gens dont go too fast. But the problem is Ebony Mori Iri Head Huntress still exists during the hex meta, Stridor Spirit still exists Nurse and Forever Freddy still exist. The two perks made playing weaker killer possible but made killers that were already strong or too strong completely busted. I stopped running the combo because it was just too easy also im a Spirit main (japanese horror is my favourite in the genre) so I already felt bad. DS needs a change I'll also admit. but DS + UB can be more easily countered think about it thats why people call these second chance perks because without them the killer would most likely dominate. Bhvr has even posted a chart that shows that top tier killers get 3+ kills a game. So on average killers are doing their job survivors arent. This is why killer mains have nothing to complain about and why I for the most part take the survivors side because most survivors aren't surviving during their sessions. Keys can go next week i dont care but before we nerf ds lets work on Spirit, Freddy and iri head.
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So many things wrong with that post devs have said in the last QnA they are going to look at huntress addons another killer change coming and also Freddy and there is no real such thing as forever Freddy as the build that started that got changed and the reasons it takes longer is survivors don't want to wake up making him just a M1 killer at that point. The problem with DS + UB is there is no counter apart from standing over there body for a min you leave them they use UB you pick them up DS kicks in hence the term there is not counter for it.
Even BHVR has said not to go off the charts as it counts people killing themselves on the hook or just giving up if 1 person DC and letting the killer hook them show true stats how many people took 3 hooks to kill, how many tried to kobe and didn't then you might be able to use those charts. The fact that you tried to bring up the charts when they have said not to use them says a lot even more with the last Q&A what they are looking at changing but you still said they need to fix them but survivors can go nuts with keys for the next week and your fine with that.
DS needs a major rework more then Spirit and Freddy and saying killers need more nerfs before 1 perk gets changed your will always be survivor bias and will not be happy till they are the power role and not the killer.
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Probably they will, but according to the way devs are speaking about that, it isn't decided how they will change and when, and this task isn't prioritized, so fixing keys will probably take as much time as Nurse M2 bug and other low-priority issues. Like, year or two, or something. And that's what pisses me off a bit in this entire situation.
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