People who play top tier killers with ruin+undying are boring
Like there's no need for it on killers on spirit, freddy, nurse yet I go up against this a lot and it's getting boring. I'm okay with this on killers like trapper but on freddy? Y'all are sad lmao
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People are entitled to maximize their chances of winning as much as possible.
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And good survivors who use DS, Unbreakable, OoO, Dead Hard, and BT to bully the Killer clearly don't need it and it gets boring.
Whataboutism aside, I've never had an issue with Ruin/Undying. It's honestly super overrated.
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4 man swf with meta perks are much more boring, also much more op.
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And much less common
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Yeah and having all the gens done in 3 minutes despite having good pressure is also boring =)
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So are survivors who run meta perks every game
But I just beat them instead of complaining
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Ruin/Undying is not even that good on Freddy TBH. He gets way more value out of Pop and Thana.
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I played a mid tier killer without ruin and undying and you called me names for not doing well enough- so bugger off next game I am taking ruin and undying again; you had your chance.
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If you bring the combo, people ######### at you for it
Don't bring it and you get called a ######### killer
At this point just ######### survivors and do what you want lol
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Yeah you show them who is boss on an imaginary game on the internet
they had their chance!!!!
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Dead by daylight is not a fun game. If u want 'fun', go somewhere else.
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I don't have NOED, I don't camp and I don't tunnel.
Everything else is fair game, especially at Red Ranks.
So who cares if I want Purple Range + Green Recharge Ruin+Undying BBQ and Pop on my Nurse.
Same with Spirit, Yakoyuke Amulet+Mother Daughter Ring with Ruin+Undying BBQ and Pop.
Expect fair gameplay, that's all I promise.
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I don't know about that, i got them 3 times today, really unfun and very boring experience tbh
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If there's no need for them then you should be happy they're wasting perk slots on supposedly unnecessary perks.
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I main survivor 90 percent of the time and find it really easy in 95 percent of matchs to cleanse totems. The only reason to be upset by hex perks is if your the kind of player who only does gens and in that case its your own fault. Memorize totem spawns or just look you can usually find them easy.
Also killers can use any perks they want with any add ons on any killer just like survivors can do the same.
Instead of whining about hex perks adept and learn to destroy them leaving the killer perkless
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When you whine like a baby regarding killers but even survivor mains disagree with you, you know you're dead wrong OP.
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its because they are trash to be honest xD
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Killers love to pretend this combo is not all that great, but it is a free win. It is the most busted thing in this game. Ruin is already ridiculously strong on a good killer, Undying turns them into a god.
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for solo teams, yes.
SWFs dont really have a problem with Undying.
so basically the Ruin Undying Tinkerer meta just absolutely destroys any solo team there is, while being highly medicore against any actual high level, coordinated team.
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It basically means there's no fair game for solos or normal SWFs.
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just cleanse totems
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Ruin/undying isn't even that great when most totem spawns are bad. Competent survivors have no trouble finding them.
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people should just man up and run only Fire Up like us real killers do
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Only way to be accurate is to write down every time u are not camped or tunneled. Otherwise u will "feel" like u are being camped and tunneled all the time.
There's also the issue of too many survivors think they are tunneled when really they are not.
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Survivors who repair gens and open exit gates are boring. :(
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Free Win? Rank 1 solo queue here, I guess the fact that I manage to regularly escape this amazing and unbeatable combo makes me an extremely lucky person right?
I love reading certain comments because they bring up one of the recurring problems in this game. Poor survivors and killers constantly complain about things that normal players can handle, devs help these people, and those already capable find themselves a bomb in their hands in terms of balance.
Ruin + Undying is objectively a strong combo, but so is DS + Unbreakable and despite this DS + Unbreakable does not mean you can always escape.
They are simply combos that require more attention to be managed. But seeing the fanbase of whining babies, it's too much to expect
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Well, play killer then and show them how its done. Tell us about your experience after 50 games at red rank, how about that?
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Luckily I'm a Devour, Haunted ground, discordance, Pop, Spirit
Trust me, you won't be bored!
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Eh, for some people the only fun they have is getting a 4k. Nothing else is acceptable.
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bUlLy tHe kIlLeR
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It’s getting boring seeing the word “boring” everywhere.
It’s losing its meaning.
I get messages from survivors claiming how boring, or toxic, or unbalanced it is when I stomp them with Clown running Coulrophobia, Forced Penance, Overwhelming Presence, and Sloppy Butcher, with no add ons.
“Boring” is just another empty buzz word when a player doesn’t win.
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whether its stale meta combos on killer or survivor side, the problem is that so many players are so obsessed with 'winning':
You play killer? if you don't manage a 4k in under 3 min you are playing wrong and are a waste of oxygen.
You play survivor? if you do anything but genrush, loop, and bully the killer, etc you are playing wrong and are a waste of oxygen.
Like, what is wrong with people?
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Exactly this!
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OP is correct. However some people like to win or not get stomped on so they gotta do what they gotta do.
Imagine caring about ranks though. After hundreds of hours in this game and repeating red ranks, I can't fathom caring that much as it doesn't matter AT all. Some people just use the best "meta" perk game to game to game. What boring existence, but if they need to validate their time online in a video game, that is between them and their therapist.
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Killer have had new meta over time from ruin to corrupt and pop to now yet survivor have had the same meta an gotten even more meta perks over time not to mention not every perk works on killers but all perks are for all survivors. Can't complain about it unless your gonna cry about both sides.
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using BT to save the camped survivor is BuLlYiNg.. omg poor killer..
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If I play killer after 11pm, there are LITERALLY nothing else. I can mostly play only late at nights because of my work. If I try to switch to survivor queue lasts 10-20 min and I mostly encounter intentionally deranking killers or just new rank 20 killers regardless of my rank.
One day I had a day off from work and could play around midday. Very chill games in both sides and matchmaking worked well, actually quite fun, nobody was sweating and was noticing a lot of different builds on both sides. Noticed a few 2-man swf but I don't think there was any 4-man. Nice to actually play killer when I can use different builds and still have fun.
I really think the time you get to play the game heavily affects the outcome because of what kind of playerbase is around. I think this explains also the different views people think is going on in the game. Also explains the favoritismn in either side regaring which side is easier. If BHVR doesn't take this in consideration when trying to balance the game, they're just very dumb. Simple as that. I mean it statistics wise because you just can't sum all the games up, that's not how it works.
I watched recently a few streamers around the world and the majority players I see them facing are just potatoes, in both sides. I notice a few really exellent survivor and killer streamers who would do well againts any team but geez, there are some considered "good" who would not make very good content at "late nights". I guess it explains the streaming time. I guess what I'm getting at is that if you want to have any fun on most killers at late nights you need heavy slowdown perks, there's no other way.
A long answer to you but I guess I just had to have said that somewhere 😂
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Ooh did you two play together? What killer were you using?
Finally someone had the guts to say it
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Who are you to decide for "other people" what they need? I don't play Freddy, Spirit, or the Nurse, but that is beside the point. The only thing Ruin+Undying does is potentially lengthen the match if the Killer is keeping up good Generator pressure. High pressure games are by DEFINITION, more exciting. So, let's be honest here, what you really mean is you are having a hard time against certain Killers and are looking for excuses. You get no sympathy from me. Do Bones. There, the old catchphrase has been uttered. Harder games aren't dull. You get out of a game, what you put into it. Quit making excuses, and up your own game.
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Ruin/Undying is boring
nerf pig
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