Why is it taking such a long time for the devs to remove perk tiers?

Keep the base tiers in the Bloodweb and let us level our perks outside of it. I've gone over 100 tiers before getting the perk I want, it's awful and will only get worse the more perks they add.

I like the grind as is. I prestiged a survivor in 1 week when playing every day, without really playing that much on the weekends.

I think the level 50 bloodwebs could be a little more forgiving. I also think the bloodwebs should offer more perks sooner when you have more survivors / killers unlocked.

remove perk tiers and you just wasted like 4000 hours of my life trying to max the characters out that i did max out.

i kinda dont want them to go - unless we get some exclusives for people who went through that trouble before it got removed, which is not gonna happen.

They can just remove perk tiers and increase the price of all items and perks in the bloodweb, so it's still has some grindy but not the one we have.

It's a good change because really perk tiers are stupid, some perks have difference of like 2-3 seconds for each tier.

I think a little reduction on the amount of grind required would be nice, but they probably shouldn't take it too far, and I doubt they will. If you were to cut 2/3rds of the grind out of the game, it would make alot of players who had p3d characters and gotten all perks feel robbed, as well as disincentivise alot of players from playing. I mean technically, you only need one survivor with all perks and then the killers you are good at and you've practially got almost everything in the game that you'll need at that time.

Because they hate us :(

Yeah,being able to upgrade your perks would considerably reduce the grind but not too much.

That would be the best idea imo

You're basically the flavour text for the Oppression perk "Life has been hard for you, and you're going to make it hard on others"

That is NOT a good reason to not improve something. Yeah we've all grinded DBD and it sucks. It really sucks for new players. Think of them.

You've already been screwed over. Accept that and stop standing in the way of making the game better for new players.

Take it from me I wouldn't be offended..id be relived at not having to do it again and again with every new release

A maybe's not a yes.

I've heard them like lots of things that they don't implement.

seems like you didnt get my point, so let me explain it a little bit more clearly:

there are ways of adding NEW things into the game that come with rewards that will increase the amount of BP you earn in the future, that simultaneously do not take away already existing things people have spent thousands of hours achieving.

by doing so all the grind we went through in the past is not made meaningless, there are new gameplay elements for everyone to enjoy AND we reduce the future grind of this game.

a great example are the tomes: each tome comes with hundrets of thousands of bonus BP you get by completing challenges. it feels rewarding to get them, they add something new to the game, they reduce the grind we have AND they dont screw long time players over, instead they give them more reason to play the game and participate.

if done right, such a new implementation can be a win - win for everyone - long time players get new and exciting goals while new players get boni that help them progress through the game and obtain what they need.

removing perk tiers is not that. it removes something that has been in the game for a long time now without adding anything new in. this has two flaws for me:

1) people who worked their ace off to get these perks on level 3 just get "robbed" off of their items. its the same scenario like when people asked the devs to "just delete moris" (or any other item) - players spend a lot of time and effort getting said item and you cant just go and take it away from them, that would simply be unfair towards those who did, unless they receive something in return to make up for all the time they sank into this.

2) this specific change would cut the grind this game has by such a significant amount, that it would, for me, hardly be worth playing anymore. the main reason why i am still playing this game is, because i work towards the goal of having every killer in this game fully maxed out. now, what exactly would happen if you were to remove perk tiers? you would effectively cut the amount of perk you need to get to fully max out a character by 2/3, so the total (current) amount would go from 234 to 78. this would mean by the time a character hits level 50 (= is ready for prestige), they are almost maxed out already. with such a huge reduction i would be done maxing everyone out within probaply 2 or 3 months, meaning i would stop playing this game until a new character comes out and i have something to work towards again.

and i know there are a lot who feel this way. by taking away too much of the grind without bringing anything new to the game, like this idea suggests, players would quickly reach a point where they have everything and the game becomes boring and stale. you need to always have something to work towards in order to have the motivation to do something, if you dont have that then it gens very boring very fast.

TL;DR: you should focus on reducing the grind by adding NEW things into the game, not by taking already existing things away. that way you can not only add more interesting features to this game, you also wont "rob" us, who worked hard to get the amount of items we have, off our hard earned prizes.

also, here are some suggestions i have for reducing the grind, as you dont seem to want to believe me that i do infact want to help newer players and reduce the grind aswell:

• passive perk upgrading. why not allow perks to passively upgrade when you ran them for X amout of matches? that way new players can quickly get the perks they want to high levels, while long time players can get the perks they are missing by playing new perk builds they havent played a lot yet. also, why not make the BW only feature lvl 1 perks until you gathered all of them? it would help letting everyone get every perk at lvl 1 faster, so they can then start passively leveling them up.
• a rework of the daily challenge system. i was thinking about a system that adds 3 challenges to both sides, starting easy and then growing in difficulty. beating a challenge could reward you with a certain amount of BP, aswell as a BP boost for the side you completed the challenge with for the rest of the day (something like 1.5x for the 1st, 1.75x for the 2nd and 2x for the 3rd - stacks with offerings and perks ofc).
• an increase to the genral BP gain from trials. with the growing grind it only makes sense to increase the general BP gain you can get from the trials you play. we could start by increasing the BP cap from 32k to 64k and doubling the amount of BP you earn for each action. (or we can take both by 1.5x or 3x or ..., the numbers arent important right now) - oh and screw the general 1.000.000 BP cap we have right now.
• rank rewards. each rank reset you get BP, the amount variies for each rank there is. the higher your ranking, the higher the reward at the end of the season. this would also need to come with a system that passively takes away your rank during a season should you not play, so that players cant just push to rank 1 and then not play anymore.
• selling unwanted items / add ons / offerings. we all have tons of those we dont ever use on our characters, so why not sell them for X% of their original price so we can continue to level characters until we got what we want?
• adding more events. events can bring a lot to this game, yet currently BHVR seems to want to get rid of them. imo we should instead add a lot more of them with new features like bonus challenges, community challenges, new objectives, BP boosts, etc. this would keep the game interesting and fresh, while also giving out great rewards to those who participate well.

and im sure there are a lot more possibilities.

but can you spot the striking difference between all of these ideas and yours?

instead of taking already existing things away from the game, which "just take away perk tiers" clearly does, each and every single one of these ideas adds something new and unique to the game.

in the long run, every single one of these suggestions i made are imho a lot healthier to this game than yours would be.

and that is why im against yours.

I read literally none of that. advice: when people give you one sentence responses, they're not THAT interested in speaking with you, don't put that much effort in. no hard feelings. I feel genuinely sorry for wasting your time.