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Survivors with ds and boil over are just making it harder for themselves during this event

Because you are getting 1 hooked and camped

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  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @Master said:
    The biggest punishment is slugging them while others farm flowers.

    They always get INSANELY salty if you do that :lol:

    No I won't slug, entire team shouldn't suffer for mistakes of one individual

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    Use Rancor, chase them or slug all game, then spam moris on them and kill, salt mine.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @amneoss said:
    I thought I was the only one doing this. :)

    Boil Over doesn't trigger me.
    But if you hit me with DS I'm camping you. If you blind me during pick up or pallet breaks I will camp you. If you loop me at jungle gym or shack then I will camp you.

    If you are going to make it a pain for me to get my hooks then you will not get your nectar. I will gladly take my derank for the camp too as it makes my life easier. Deranking for camping is the best thing ever. I get my kill, my bp, and I get easier games.

    If you don't struggle when I carry you then I let you escape after 2 hooks.

    I one-hooked 90% of survivors for my bbq stack and din't go after the same person more then once,` let them all get their nectar and escape today, I don't care if they struggle or not, but if I see boil over, ds, flashlight blinds and body blocking I get triggered.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,955

    I'm confused, do some killers allow a survivor to freely escape if they don't do certain things? I'm new to this and basically run the self-heal, seeing injured allies anywhere on the map, light footsteps and the ability to revive yourself from the downed state. I still have killers chasing me exclusively the entire time, until I am killed. I feel like I need to learn what everyone uses and go with that like DS.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @powerbats said:
    I can't say i'm surprised that people are running this given the jerk killers I run into at all rank that camp at 1st hook and i mean camp.

    That's why I let survivors escape, after being camped 60% of the games while getting my survivor vials I know the feeling

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @Nicholas said:
    I'm confused, do some killers allow a survivor to freely escape if they don't do certain things? I'm new to this and basically run the self-heal, seeing injured allies anywhere on the map, light footsteps and the ability to revive yourself from the downed state. I still have killers chasing me exclusively the entire time, until I am killed. I feel like I need to learn what everyone uses and go with that like DS.

    No. But purposely preventing an opposite side from getting their event objective will piss people off

  • Vortexas
    Vortexas Member Posts: 757

    I dunno last couple of Killer games I've played I've gone full tryhard at the start. Tunneling matters little to me, I see, I chase, I hook. BUT after I get my vial I let the survivors (if any remain) go. If THEY didn't bring enough offerings for me to get a full vial, then I am going to make it hell for them to get one.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,955

    I haven't played as much, nearly every match for me is the killer exclusively chasing me down repeatedly and I can't get away. If I am unhooked, I am insta-downed and back on the same hook anyway. Wiggle feels pointless since there are so many hooks. And then the killer lag is insane. Nightmare I never know where the lullaby is coming from, does he see me or am I safe in this spot? The Pig's gimmick isn't fun, running around to as much as four puppets to try and break free. Doctor's spam the electric floor through walls and other barriers so where do you go? The forums really paint a different picture that the game favors survivors, maybe it does and I just need to learn the perks and how to be a terrible survivor for killers.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    During this event I play regularly, but, when I am grabbed, avoid struggling to let the killer hook me where they can get their serum: the killer is my enemy, the player behind the killer is my friend, even unknown.
  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    @HellDescent said:

    @amneoss said:
    I thought I was the only one doing this. :)

    Boil Over doesn't trigger me.
    But if you hit me with DS I'm camping you. If you blind me during pick up or pallet breaks I will camp you. If you loop me at jungle gym or shack then I will camp you.

    If you are going to make it a pain for me to get my hooks then you will not get your nectar. I will gladly take my derank for the camp too as it makes my life easier. Deranking for camping is the best thing ever. I get my kill, my bp, and I get easier games.

    If you don't struggle when I carry you then I let you escape after 2 hooks.

    I one-hooked 90% of survivors for my bbq stack and din't go after the same person more then once,` let them all get their nectar and escape today, I don't care if they struggle or not, but if I see boil over, ds, flashlight blinds and body blocking I get triggered.

    Hey, bodyblocking may happen to get their WGLF stacks due to how hard it is otherwise

    But man... those people who bring DS, Boil Over, and Ruin during this event... they must be something else.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @WhateverIGuess said:
    Wish I could camp a killer that used perks I don't like. Or just remove them from the match instantly like killers do when they camp just because they don't like the perks people use. :')

    Care to share a list of those killer perks you don´t like?

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813
    I face camp any killer that uses BBQ, NOED or Ruin.
  • GrannyonAcid
    GrannyonAcid Member Posts: 476

    D/S isn't even a problem. Not sure why people even complain about it anymore. Been playing at rank 1 again and I see that perk like once every 10 matches? I think people overplay it way too much. Granted it's an extremely over powered perk. But it seems like most survivors prefer not to use it. Which I am surprised at. Because in my time playing survivor... DBD is at a terrible place. It's like 1 every 10 games where you don't face a camper. I dunno. Wish the good killers would come back into the game. It seems like all the bad camping ones stayed instead.

  • Naiad
    Naiad Member Posts: 194

    @Nicholas said:
    I haven't played as much, nearly every match for me is the killer exclusively chasing me down repeatedly and I can't get away. If I am unhooked, I am insta-downed and back on the same hook anyway. Wiggle feels pointless since there are so many hooks. And then the killer lag is insane. Nightmare I never know where the lullaby is coming from, does he see me or am I safe in this spot? The Pig's gimmick isn't fun, running around to as much as four puppets to try and break free. Doctor's spam the electric floor through walls and other barriers so where do you go? The forums really paint a different picture that the game favors survivors, maybe it does and I just need to learn the perks and how to be a terrible survivor for killers.

    Survivor is definitely easier once you get more used to playing. There are a lot of killers that will tunnel, i.e. focus on you and you only. Especially if they know you're easy to down and kill, getting rid of a survivor or few early, with few gens done, makes their games easier. There are quite a few streamers and youtube videos you can watch to help you learn how to survive better, or play killer/watch killer play. I advise playing both survivor and killer so you understand where the other side is coming from. Personally I don't camp or tunnel simply because I don't want to.

    One of the main reasons it's harder for killer is because they're more pressured by time at the start of the match. Survivors can finish gens very quickly, and very efficiently if they're playing SWF (Survive With Friends), and if they don't camp it takes 3 hooks for each survivor. That means they have to chase and down each survivor 12 times in total, add in DS, pallets, looping, flashlight saves. These all waste killers time and add more pressure to their gameplay. And as you can imagine can become very frustrating if you've downed a survivor, they use DS, you down them again, they get saved by flashlight, you down them again and finally manage to hook them for the first time but 3 gens have been finished. Aside from feeling pressure from time they also have map size to contend with, and putting pressure across it to stop the gens from being completed. If they manage to put enough pressure on and hook enough survivors before gens are down the match can easily turn in their favour and survivors are playing catch up.

    The Pig's trap may be annoying but she relies on RNG, there's a good chance you get the trap off on the first box you visit and she only has so many of them. The trap going off doesn't happen as often as you'd imagine, you usually have just enough time to check all the boxes (if you're not found again) and a gen has to be finished after the trap goes on your head to even start the countdown. The only way to avoid the Doctor's static electricity is to not be in his terror radius or get in a locker, otherwise you madness will increase.

    @GrannyonAcid said:
    D/S isn't even a problem. Not sure why people even complain about it anymore. Been playing at rank 1 again and I see that perk like once every 10 matches? I think people overplay it way too much. Granted it's an extremely over powered perk. But it seems like most survivors prefer not to use it. Which I am surprised at. Because in my time playing survivor... DBD is at a terrible place. It's like 1 every 10 games where you don't face a camper. I dunno. Wish the good killers would come back into the game. It seems like all the bad camping ones stayed instead.

    I'm a rank 15 killer, I'd say about 90% of my matches today have had DS in it. Everyone's experiences are different, that could be a different percentage for me another day but it's about normal tbh.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    edited October 2018
    It's not mature nor wise who complaints about opponents' perks: of course, they are intended to help who uses them, and everybody can choose the strategy they prefer.

    I understand that, during an event, it should be polite let the opponent get their cosmetics (it's the reason why I don't struggle when grabbed: I'm happy the player who controls the killer earns some serum); and I condemn who, because of their inferior skill, uses unsporting tricks to win, i.e. obstacles the normal game dynamics (killers camping; survivors teabagging when gates are opened, to humiliate the killer ecc.).
  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    edited October 2018
    I just wonder one thing
    just had a game where people called me noob and wanted "fair play". The game before I was playing nice as killer just to be hit with baby killer after they DS, body block, hook swarm, flashlight, t bag etc etc

    Next game i pick my favorite killer the hag with my glorious unstable 15 fps (classic hag gameplay) wit ebony morning. First mori, every other swf with them kill themselves in the first hook tomake me earn as less points as possible.

    One is alive and his friend kept spamming "noob" and "fair play" and laugh at me when his friend survived with the hatch.

    Now, is that a thing? I never heard of fair play especially after being bullied the whole time I played this game. I don't piss off other ppl as survivor for a reason but its this a thing even on pc? Im just curious

    During event I try to be nicer as for bbq even but in this they really want to piss me off
  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    Bad people. Play your game, don't care of their rudeness.
  • Oblitiry
    Oblitiry Member Posts: 487
    edited October 2018
    Well boil over is my favorite perk so if I have access to it I'm gonna use it no matter what.

    I already have my 30 survival vials.

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    amneoss said:
    I thought I was the only one doing this. :)

    Boil Over doesn't trigger me.
    But if you hit me with DS I'm camping you. If you blind me during pick up or pallet breaks I will camp you. If you loop me at jungle gym or shack then I will camp you.

    If you are going to make it a pain for me to get my hooks then you will not get your nectar. I will gladly take my derank for the camp too as it makes my life easier. Deranking for camping is the best thing ever. I get my kill, my bp, and I get easier games.

    If you don't struggle when I carry you then I let you escape after 2 hooks.

    amneoss said:
    I thought I was the only one doing this. :)

    Boil Over doesn't trigger me.
    But if you hit me with DS I'm camping you. If you blind me during pick up or pallet breaks I will camp you. If you loop me at jungle gym or shack then I will camp you.

    If you are going to make it a pain for me to get my hooks then you will not get your nectar. I will gladly take my derank for the camp too as it makes my life easier. Deranking for camping is the best thing ever. I get my kill, my bp, and I get easier games.

    If you don't struggle when I carry you then I let you escape after 2 hooks.
    Holy ######### dude. Idgaf about ds, but you're basically saying if I try to survive I'm getting camped. I'm sorry that most of us aren't stupid survivors who run in a straight line out in the open and never look behind us. I'm sorry you're having a hard time in this event, but if you want your hook with me... You're gonna have to work for it.
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @Dudddd said:
    HellDescent said:

    Because you are getting 1 hooked and camped

    Lol and thats why you made a post about devs effecting campers with the emblems . Glad you admit how bad you’re as killer definitely worse as survivor .

    Didn't admit anything Dud.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @amneoss said:
    Radiant said:

    What nub killers lol

    If you run DS during a event you are just as bad as killers who run RUIN and Moris during the event.
    No need to try and deliberately cheat others out of rewards. 

    Uh, Ruin is required against anyone trying, but DS isn't required to survive.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    I like to slug. I leave survivors alone at the flowers but nothing slows the game down more than thanatophopia and wack-a-mole strat. 
  • cTrix
    cTrix Member Posts: 122
    edited October 2018

    In this thread: DS users are complaining that Killers are toxic, and Killers are saying they're toxic to DS users.

    Maybe don't use DS and they won't be so toxic :lol:

    I never use DS and I never get camped except if I'm against a new player killer at the low ranks, cus they don't know how to play the game.

    I have a ton of fun playing killer because I don't care about killing people off. Being Killer is like being a game master in Dungeons & Dragons, or like a dominatrix. You're there to provide tension and entertainment. It's not a competition. You're not proving anything to anyone except yourself.
    Killers don't "win" if they get 4 Kills, and a survivor dying on hook gives you the same amount of Bloodpoints as one melee hit. As Killer you should focus either on Emblems or Bloodpoints if you need feedback on how well you are doing. Kills are meaningless.

    But obviously most people don't think like that (except the devs like McLean).

    @Nicholas

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Tsulan said:

    @WhateverIGuess said:
    Wish I could camp a killer that used perks I don't like. Or just remove them from the match instantly like killers do when they camp just because they don't like the perks people use. :')

    Care to share a list of those killer perks you don´t like?

    Well, for starters: Bamboozle, NOED, Enduring, Ruin, MYC just to name a few.
    But guess what? Survivors can't completely shutdown and ruin the player's experience, killers can by camping that player. Yeah, sure, survivors can destroy totems, but they can't completely shutdown the killer and ruin their fun (not saying they should, but it's unfair)
    Yeah, sure, some of these perks have counters, but DS does aswell cough Enduring cough Dribbling cough
    Please, do not educate me how to outplay / adapt to these perks, because if killers don't have to, why should I? :') I'm just gonna camp my problems away and ez life. Oh wait, I can't if i'm playing survivor.

    My point: I find it unfair that killers can just completely ruin a survivor's experience and a match just by camping because they play perks the killer doesn't like.

    Just to clarify: No, I don't run DS, I'm just mad when people say they hard camp because of it or any other perk they don't like.

    Have you tried deceit? There the monster can kill you in the first 2 minutes and it's instantly over. No second chances, no waiting on the hook, nothing. You died, you lost.

    You do realize that the killer HAS to kill, yes? No made up rules of engagement. 
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Tsulan said:
    WhateverIGuess said:

    @Tsulan said:

     @WhateverIGuess said:
    

    Wish I could camp a killer that used perks I don't like. Or just remove them from the match instantly like killers do when they camp just because they don't like the perks people use. :')

    Care to share a list of those killer perks you don´t like?

    Well, for starters: Bamboozle, NOED, Enduring, Ruin, MYC just to name a few.

    But guess what? Survivors can't completely shutdown and ruin the player's experience, killers can by camping that player. Yeah, sure, survivors can destroy totems, but they can't completely shutdown the killer and ruin their fun (not saying they should, but it's unfair)

    Yeah, sure, some of these perks have counters, but DS does aswell cough Enduring cough Dribbling cough

    Please, do not educate me how to outplay / adapt to these perks, because if killers don't have to, why should I? :') I'm just gonna camp my problems away and ez life. Oh wait, I can't if i'm playing survivor.

    My point: I find it unfair that killers can just completely ruin a survivor's experience and a match just by camping because they play perks the killer doesn't like.

    Just to clarify: No, I don't run DS, I'm just mad when people say they hard camp because of it or any other perk they don't like.

    Have you tried deceit? There the monster can kill you in the first 2 minutes and it's instantly over. No second chances, no waiting on the hook, nothing. You died, you lost.

    You do realize that the killer HAS to kill, yes? No made up rules of engagement. 

    I know the killer has to kill, but people like this camp them ONLY because the survivor used DS. What can I do if the killer is running a perk I don't like?

    Ruin = cleanse the totem 
    NOED = cleanse the totem 
    MYC = make a choice. You or the other guy.
    Enduring = is more of an inconvenience that a problem. 

    I rediscovered stealth for me. I play UE David with IW. Most of the time I can lose the killer. 
  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    Yeah killer side was way more aids then the survivor side event. I played the same way though 2 hooks for everyone, everyone escapes unless they were a douche for no reason then they died or got a good ol' camp. Also it took incredibly longer to finish the killer vials mainly because the survivors i was going against literally would not bring offerings and you need at least 4 offerings to get 6 hooks = 1 vial..

  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    Camping someone for using ds is really sad honestly. Most of the survivors have finished the event so they just want normal games.

  • nssBoB
    nssBoB Member Posts: 15

    i do not follow my fellow survivors? i started collecting nectar yesterday and i am already at 17/30 sure i get camped like anyone else but very rarely before i manage to get at least first safety point of the vial....

  • Madjura
    Madjura Member Posts: 2,488

    @Usui said:
    Yeah killer side was way more aids then the survivor side event. I played the same way though 2 hooks for everyone, everyone escapes unless they were a douche for no reason then they died or got a good ol' camp. Also it took incredibly longer to finish the killer vials mainly because the survivors i was going against literally would not bring offerings and you need at least 4 offerings to get 6 hooks = 1 vial..

    And don't forget 4 man SWF who disconnect before you hook them on an event hook so you can't fill the vial, then sit in the postgame chat until it's over and go "gg ez"

    ^ This actually happened more than once. Bonus: Next game (after sitting in lobby again forever) I got them again, popped an Ebony Mori and went to town. The one who went "gg ez" tried to crash my game with the old flashlight exploit that is now fixed so that was a report and hopefully a ban too.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    @Eninya said:

    @amneoss said:
    Radiant said:

    What nub killers lol

    If you run DS during a event you are just as bad as killers who run RUIN and Moris during the event.
    No need to try and deliberately cheat others out of rewards. 

    Uh, Ruin is required against anyone trying, but DS isn't required to survive.

    No perk is a requirement. It’s just a meta. I’ve survived perfectly fine without running Self Care and Decisive Strike although they make your objective easier as a survivor. You’ll be fine without your precious BBQ and Ruin. If you HAVE to rely on them and can’t win without them then don’t complain about survivors running DS, simple as that.

  • steezo_de
    steezo_de Member Posts: 1,213

    Is Boil Over really that big a deal? Is this a console thing?

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    edited October 2018
    MegMain98 said:

    @Eninya said:

    @amneoss said:
    Radiant said:

    What nub killers lol

    If you run DS during a event you are just as bad as killers who run RUIN and Moris during the event.
    No need to try and deliberately cheat others out of rewards. 

    Uh, Ruin is required against anyone trying, but DS isn't required to survive.

    No perk is a requirement. It’s just a meta. I’ve survived perfectly fine without running Self Care and Decisive Strike although they make your objective easier as a survivor. You’ll be fine without your precious BBQ and Ruin. If you HAVE to rely on them and can’t win without them then don’t complain about survivors running DS, simple as that.

    Oh sure, just let the Survivors who are actually trying, or are playing SWF and all of them have their 30/30 vials and aren’t going for the flowers, Gen Rush the ######### out of me in less than 5 minutes. Good plan.

    BBQ, Nah, Ruin, must have Rank 5 to Rank 1. Most Survivors at that rank aren’t giving a ######### about the flowers and are back to the same old same old.

    Plus, even before then, I didn’t see any Survivors “taking it easy” on me and not packing the meta perks with insta-heals, best flashlight in the game, BNP’s on Purple toolboxes.

    Cause you know, it’s perfectly possible to get 12 hooks without camping and tunneling in less than 5 minutes. 
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    I'm leveling Laurie at present.
    If the killer isnt taking part in the event, if they normal hook me, if they don't let me harvest, I will DS their asses because they are asses.

    Kinda wish I had more leeway to tell, but luckily DS can be saved.
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  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Why is everyone talking about ds being bad or being a noob perk, it's in a game, it's fine. I'm talking about using it during the event. Which would be equivalent to killers camping the cankers, slugging all 4 survivor or camping to prevent them getting the nectar. Stay on topic guys. If you wanna discuss which killer/survivor perks shouldn't be in the game make a separate thread.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,297

    I have never ran DS in the game in a few hundred hours of play, in the event I'd get a little chase from the killer but I would go down quick, I did have a hag dribble me twice as I never struggle when events are on and they obviously for some reason thought I had DS even though they werent runnning obsession perks.

    I had a lot of killers who nodded to me on the hook afterwards, the thing that happened is I was rarely tunnelled maybe twice over getting my 30 vials and only camped once but I did die quite a lot, I never struggled even on death hook, I just let them get the hooks they needed, its nice to be nice when an event is on.