Killer Tier List (Patch 2.2.0)

The > @Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:
S+ Nurse
S Billy
A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit
B Wraith, Pig, Myers
C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.

The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.

It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.
Something most other killer are lacking..
My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?
Doc has a solution for that.

Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.

It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.

I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.

I am ok with it as long as we can agree on the OP is overcrowding the S+ and S tier.

The only S+ and S tier killers should be the two that nobody disagrees with being the overall strongest two and that is Nurse and Billy. If you wanted to add more to that I’d only personally add Myers and Huntress

MegMain98 said:

@LRGamer said:
MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

S+ Nurse

S Billy

A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit

B Wraith, Pig, Myers

C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.

The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.

It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.

Something most other killer are lacking..

My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?

Doc has a solution for that.

Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.

It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.

I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.

I perform well with everyone but I like Michael because of the Mindgames.
The Doctor however actually can somewhat manipulate a Chase. 
Well i agree he is pretty weak and the time it takes to switch modes should be decreased but he is not overrated.
That Title belongs to the Huntress

Doctor can’t cut off loops but the Huntress can and that is one thing she holds over Doctor. A good Huntress is not going to be looped. Not to mention she can have a one hit down with hatchets which cannot be countered while Doctor’s entire ability can be somewhat countered by Calm Spirit. I’ve run Calm Spirit and had very little issues with Doctor finding me. It’s not a perfect counter but it’s a strong counter.

Huntress isn’t very loopable and can have an insta-down. Her ability helps her in a chase. Doctor isn’t good in a chase and is easily loopable. A Huntress who doesn’t know how to effectively use hatchets or without hatchets however is going to be bullied which is the reason I don’t play her because I’m not good with long range attacks. I’m personally better with Doctor but Huntress has a higher potential.

The Doctor actually has a Tool in a Chase and would be ay better if they would make him be able to switch modes instantly.
The Doctor can prevent Survivors from Vaulting or Dropping a Pallet and in Madness lvl. 3 Survivors can’t even Flashlight-Blind him.
While I do agree that he needs a Buff, Leatherface is never ever better than him.
And I do have my reasons for calling the Huntress overrated.
The Huntress has 110% Movement Speed because of her Power but while her Power is good at punishing Vaulting or Dropping Pallets when she runs out of Hatchets, since dodging them is really easy so it won’t take long until that happens, she’s a Terrible Killer and in order to be somewhat effective you have to waste time at a Locker. BTW Wraith is still really bad and only with add-ons he is somewhat OK

@GhostrickSpecter said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:
The > @Wolf74 said:

I am ok with it as long as we can agree on the OP is overcrowding the S+ and S tier.

The only S+ and S tier killers should be the two that nobody disagrees with being the overall strongest two and that is Nurse and Billy. If you wanted to add more to that I’d only personally add Myers and Huntress

Nope S+ Nurse, S Billy, that's it.
No one is beside them.
Everyone else is below them.
And still I won't put Myers beside Huntress.
But I am also the one that rates Doc higher than most other, so I am cool with that.^^

Well, you know we all got our own opinions, right? So I can agree you, and you don't need to agree me cuz it's your opinion

Nah that’s cool. If he believe Doctor is top tier then it’s his own opinion and it’s valid. It’s just a personal preference. I look at what killers abilites help them in a chase, have the most map control, and are able to cut off loops easiest. The reason I rate Myers so high is that he has very good add-ons that can take out survivors without even having to hook them once. Another add-on is having a permanent one-hit down and he is only one of four killers who can have a permanent one-hit down, not to mention the increased lunge range in EW III is nice.

If I was choosing on who I preformed the best it would be Freddy because I can easily get a 4K with Freddy but he has some obvious flaws. I do best with Freddy and worse with Nurse but Nurse is obviously the better killer.

I me> @LRGamer said:

MegMain98 said:

@LRGamer said:

MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

S+ Nurse

S Billy

A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit

B Wraith, Pig, Myers

C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.



The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.

It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.

Something most other killer are lacking..

My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?

Doc has a solution for that.



Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.

It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.

I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.



I perform well with everyone but I like Michael because of the Mindgames.

The Doctor however actually can somewhat manipulate a Chase. 

Well i agree he is pretty weak and the time it takes to switch modes should be decreased but he is not overrated.

That Title belongs to the Huntress

Doctor can’t cut off loops but the Huntress can and that is one thing she holds over Doctor. A good Huntress is not going to be looped. Not to mention she can have a one hit down with hatchets which cannot be countered while Doctor’s entire ability can be somewhat countered by Calm Spirit. I’ve run Calm Spirit and had very little issues with Doctor finding me. It’s not a perfect counter but it’s a strong counter.

Huntress isn’t very loopable and can have an insta-down. Her ability helps her in a chase. Doctor isn’t good in a chase and is easily loopable. A Huntress who doesn’t know how to effectively use hatchets or without hatchets however is going to be bullied which is the reason I don’t play her because I’m not good with long range attacks. I’m personally better with Doctor but Huntress has a higher potential.

The Doctor actually has a Tool in a Chase and would be ay better if they would make him be able to switch modes instantly.
The Doctor can prevent Survivors from Vaulting or Dropping a Pallet and in Madness lvl. 3 Survivors can’t even Flashlight-Blind him.
While I do agree that he needs a Buff, Leatherface is never ever better than him.
And I do have my reasons for calling the Huntress overrated.
The Huntress has 110% Movement Speed because of her Power but while her Power is good at punishing Vaulting or Dropping Pallets when she runs out of Hatchets, since dodging them is really easy so it won’t take long until that happens, she’s a Terrible Killer and in order to be somewhat effective you have to waste time at a Locker. BTW Wraith is still really bad and only with add-ons he is somewhat OK

Huntress has a 110% movement speed because she has a long range attack. I personally suck with the Huntress because I am awful with aiming hatchets. She’s in the higher ranks on most tier lists because in the right hands she is deadly. If you put her best add-ons on her she is really good. I do believe she is slightly overrated but not as overrated as Doctor. I have never been a fan of Doctor, he is more of an annoyance than actually a deadly killer. I leave the match with a headache whether I am playing survivor or the Doctor himself.

NiceToMeetYou said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:
SnakeSound222 said:

I don't agree with Leatherface, Spirit, Pig, Clown, and Myers.

Clown should be behind Huntress because while his bottles slow the Survivor, they don't damage them. He still has to hit the Survivor.

Myers should be in A tier and behind Doctor. He suffers from the same weakness that every Killer except Nurse has, which is that it's easy to loop him. It's harder when he's at EW3, but still easy. If you stay out of his LoS, you can starve him of his Evil Within.

Pig should be at B tier and behind Myers. It is really easy to not have your RBT activate and simply looking around will help you when she's crouched.

I'd place Spirit somewhere in A tier (not sure where exactly, probably somewhere around Doc or Myers). The fact that you can hear her when she's phase walking makes it harder for her to sneak up on a Survivor and it's easier to mindgame her (run toward her husk in order to make her think that you're hiding somewhere). If she could see blood while phase walking I'd be more inclined to put her at high A tier or low S tier.

Leatherface can actually hit people without having to wait 3-9.5 seconds, so I would put him above Freddy (still in C tier).

The magic of clown vs hundress is that due to how is power hits he is more capable of securing hits and isn't useless without his projectiles.

I disagree with you analyze for Myres, doctor, spirit and Clown
First of all, Myres is definitely better than the doctor. Although The Doctors tracking potential is insane, The Doctor sucks as he lacks an ability to deal damage and apply pressure: he wastes too much time bringing survivors up to tier 3, and once he has he has no increased chase potential. I would probably place the doctor in B tier, where he is in this tier list. Myres, however, has tracking potential combined with his "killing" potential. Michael Myres power, evil within, improves his chase and downing potential the longer he "stalks" someone. However, it is also very useful for finding survivors as the points received when you stalk someone is a very good notification to where a survivor is. Myres, if you play him correctly, will not run out of evil within before either the survivors escape or he gets a 4k. The normal tactic is to save up your tier 3 until it worth using it e.g. your very close to a survivor in a chase. By using your evil within like this, even if they lose you it is very easy to stop loops with the increased vaulting speed and lunge range plus the exposed status effect. This makes jungle gyms and the killer shacks, as examples, unsafe as opposed to normally being one of the safest loops on the map. This all in all makes, in my opinion, Myres literally one of the best killers, maybe even s+ class in the right hands.
Anyways onto the clown.
The 2 statements you make about the clown vs the huntress in your post literally contradict themselves. First, you say that the clown is worse because huntresses hatchets do damage and his bottles don't, which is a completely invalid argument, but ill get to that, and then you go on to say that clown is better at securing hits.
You are literally saying the Huntress is better because she does can injure survivors more easily, before saying the clown is more capable of securing hits? What?
In my opinion, the clown is a better killer than the Huntress. The main benefits of the Huntress are her ability to injure survivors from a distance and end loops easily. So in the long range distance sense it isn't exactly fair to compare the two: the clown is not made to be able to start long range chases. However in all other instances, the clown is better, or should I say less balanced. Because that is the main problem with the Huntress: She is SO well balanced. In exchange for projectile ability, she has a slower movement speed, a long reload time, which can only be accomplished in certain areas, and a direction specific, longer terror radius: her lullaby. She wastes much time reloading at lockers, can't finish a chase if out of hatchets and alerts the survivors where exactly she is long before she arrives there. The clown, on the other hand, can reload whenever, wherever, is faster, has a normal terror radius and has much, much, MUCH more control in a chase. The clown can force survivors to go where he wants when he wants by throwing gas to channel them wherever. And although he does exchange this for the ability to injure people directly with the projectiles, his projectiles, if used right, will allow a guaranteed hit anyways. And because none of this is balanced in any way and only gets more powerful with the addons used, this is why I deem the clown a better killer than the Huntress.
The spirit I would personally place in low a tier maybe even b tier. Her power is very useful for mind games and this is very useful against survivors. However, her power is also her biggest weakness: it allows the survivors to easily mind game her back. The audio queue played when she is near alerts a survivor to her presence, allowing for easy stealth escapes. However, even if the survivor runs of a gen, and begins a loop it is a massive risk for the spirit to go into phase form as there are so many ways to mind game her. If the survivor doesn't run the spirit can only try to predict their moves, which can lead to lost chases and confused killers. Scratch marks can lead the killer astray a dropped pallet can put considerable distance between the killer and the survivor as either it forces the spirit to go around or come out of phase form to break the pallet, both wasting time in which the survivor can escape. If the killer does not use their power to try and avoid this, then they are no better than the wraith in chase and gives her chasing potential worst than the doctors. This is why I believe she should be much lower than she s tier, maybe even b tier as opposed to a!
I do however agree with your placement of the pig and cannibal, a lunge attack his very easy to dodge as you have little "steering" or control during the animation. It also wastes time having to stealth before being able to do this allowing for an easy escape. Although the pig's stealth mode is good for what it is and might be good for surprising low tier killers, any decent survivor can see her coming and run well before she reaches them. Sprint burst is an easy counter to her lunge and renders it useless. Stealthing around every also decreases your FOV as well as making you considerably slower wasting time.

That was two different people, I said clown secures hits. Huntress can damage survivors outright but her hatchets are easy to dodge. And once she runs out she is damn there useless, but not the clown, the clan can pursue still into a loop while reloading, he doesn't have to leave the survivor. Also he has a higher base movement speed. Due to latency, how inaccurate her hatchets are, and unaware survivors she gets some hits but only because survivors let her. I keep in mind survivors and killers both playing optimally. Playing optimally, the clown has the upper hand. Even if he uses red heads pinky finger, he still gains from missinv a direct hit. The huntress does not. These are just base facts. The clown is underplayed but if you look at their powers, huntress with 110 and lullaby, clown with 115 and bottles, the clown is better. Harder to stealth around, still gets a plus 1 from missed throws, can cut off loops before they hit a window.

@Wolf74 said:
S+ Nurse
S Billy
A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit
B Wraith, Pig, Myers
C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.

Massively disagree with spirits position as a she may not have as much mobility as billy and lack an instadown but her power catches out survivors better then billy as you you can see billy coming. Finally she is way better at dealing with survivors at loops its like saying nurse is crap because 50% of the killer community play her badly. Spirit is insanely powerful and she will continue her rise to become the second strongest killer in the game. Now if a killer is overrated its billy seriously just hop a vault or force an m1 hit if you think your gonna be sawed. Also doc is definitely not that far up especially when you consider that the docs shock stun is way too low and vaults still have the suction effect so you cant effectively shutdown loops. Myers I agree isn't quite s as his stalking takes way too long in high ranked games.

@Zarathos said:

@Wolf74 said:
S+ Nurse
S Billy
A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit
B Wraith, Pig, Myers
C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.

Massively disagree with spirits position as a she may not have as much mobility as billy and lack an instadown but her power catches out survivors better then billy as you you can see billy coming. Finally she is way better at dealing with survivors at loops its like saying nurse is crap because 50% of the killer community play her badly. Spirit is insanely powerful and she will continue her rise to become the second strongest killer in the game. Now if a killer is overrated its billy seriously just hop a vault or force an m1 hit if you think your gonna be sawed. Also doc is definitely not that far up especially when you consider that the docs shock stun is way too low and vaults still have the suction effect so you cant effectively shutdown loops. Myers I agree isn't quite s as his stalking takes way too long in high ranked games.

I think the main strength of billy is the fact that as soon as he's done with a chase, (Assuming he has BBQ or a decent tracking perk) he can be on someones ass faster than any other killer aside from nurse and spirit. Which is a lot more than what can be said for most killers. Swift killers like these 3 can down someone hook them, immediately transition into another chase, then by the time you've saved 1 person off a hook, the person they were chasing is downed and hooked immediately. And it goes back and forth like this until the whole game falls apart under the survivors.

Other killers have a much longer transition time between chases unless the survivors are camping the hook. If one of the other killers leaves the hook to go after a BBQ target the person is going to get unhooked before they're even able to START a chase on the next guy. This is important, because the most dangerous survivor in most games is the one ACROSS THE MAP DOING GENS!

MegMain98 said:

I me> @LRGamer said:

MegMain98 said:

@LRGamer said:

MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

S+ Nurse

S Billy

A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit

B Wraith, Pig, Myers

C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.



The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.

It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.

Something most other killer are lacking..

My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?

Doc has a solution for that.



Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.

It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.

I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.



I perform well with everyone but I like Michael because of the Mindgames.

The Doctor however actually can somewhat manipulate a Chase. 

Well i agree he is pretty weak and the time it takes to switch modes should be decreased but he is not overrated.

That Title belongs to the Huntress

Doctor can’t cut off loops but the Huntress can and that is one thing she holds over Doctor. A good Huntress is not going to be looped. Not to mention she can have a one hit down with hatchets which cannot be countered while Doctor’s entire ability can be somewhat countered by Calm Spirit. I’ve run Calm Spirit and had very little issues with Doctor finding me. It’s not a perfect counter but it’s a strong counter.

Huntress isn’t very loopable and can have an insta-down. Her ability helps her in a chase. Doctor isn’t good in a chase and is easily loopable. A Huntress who doesn’t know how to effectively use hatchets or without hatchets however is going to be bullied which is the reason I don’t play her because I’m not good with long range attacks. I’m personally better with Doctor but Huntress has a higher potential.

The Doctor actually has a Tool in a Chase and would be ay better if they would make him be able to switch modes instantly.
The Doctor can prevent Survivors from Vaulting or Dropping a Pallet and in Madness lvl. 3 Survivors can’t even Flashlight-Blind him.
While I do agree that he needs a Buff, Leatherface is never ever better than him.
And I do have my reasons for calling the Huntress overrated.
The Huntress has 110% Movement Speed because of her Power but while her Power is good at punishing Vaulting or Dropping Pallets when she runs out of Hatchets, since dodging them is really easy so it won’t take long until that happens, she’s a Terrible Killer and in order to be somewhat effective you have to waste time at a Locker. BTW Wraith is still really bad and only with add-ons he is somewhat OK

Huntress has a 110% movement speed because she has a long range attack. I personally suck with the Huntress because I am awful with aiming hatchets. She’s in the higher ranks on most tier lists because in the right hands she is deadly. If you put her best add-ons on her she is really good. I do believe she is slightly overrated but not as overrated as Doctor. I have never been a fan of Doctor, he is more of an annoyance than actually a deadly killer. I leave the match with a headache whether I am playing survivor or the Doctor himself.

No she has a 110% Movement Speed because of her power

I think a lot of people tend to over hype how good Amanda is I mean I made her but I could tell you she's really nice but nowhere near what I would call Top tier.

 She's A tier at best debatably B tier 

@Poweas said:

@MegMain98 said:

@LRGamer said:
MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

@MegMain98 said:

@Wolf74 said:

S+ Nurse

S Billy

A Huntress, Hag, Clown, Doc, Spirit

B Wraith, Pig, Myers

C Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper

OP pretty much overrates most killer.

The ONLY one on the A tier list that is on Myers level is Huntress. Doctor is pretty weak. His ability doesn’t really help him in a chase, Doctor is the most overrated killer in the game honestly. Other than that I’d switch Myers and Doctor but your list is pretty accurate.

It might be just my personal preference, because I perform pretty well with Doc. And the main reason for it is that he can actually affect multiple targets with his aura.

Something most other killer are lacking..

My main issue is always how can I get the other of the gens while I chase ONE?

Doc has a solution for that.

Doctor is good when it comes to map pressure if it is a smaller map (Game, Hospital, Yamaoka) and you pair it with Distressing and Unnerving. His ability just doesn’t cut it for me, he is just too weak at loops.

It’s also a preference when it comes to Myers with me. I love the extended lunge of EW III and his ability to sneak up on survivors in the beginning with his smaller terror radius. I’d take Myers, Spirit, and Pig over Doctor.

I even preform well with Freddy believe it or not.

I perform well with everyone but I like Michael because of the Mindgames.
The Doctor however actually can somewhat manipulate a Chase. 
Well i agree he is pretty weak and the time it takes to switch modes should be decreased but he is not overrated.
That Title belongs to the Huntress

Doctor can’t cut off loops but the Huntress can and that is one thing she holds over Doctor. A good Huntress is not going to be looped. Not to mention she can have a one hit down with hatchets which cannot be countered while Doctor’s entire ability can be somewhat countered by Calm Spirit. I’ve run Calm Spirit and had very little issues with Doctor finding me. It’s not a perfect counter but it’s a strong counter.

Huntress isn’t very loopable and can have an insta-down. Her ability helps her in a chase. Doctor isn’t good in a chase and is easily loopable. A Huntress who doesn’t know how to effectively use hatchets or without hatchets however is going to be bullied which is the reason I don’t play her because I’m not good with long range attacks. I’m personally better with Doctor but Huntress has a higher potential.

You say that but I abuse the Huntress in any loop all you gotta do is keep running when she charged her hatchet I normally loop her 6-7 times before I drop the pallet lol she's easier to counter then Doctor. She's pretty hard to beat on open maps though I'll admit that but if ur at a pallet ur fine.

She’s not AS loopable as Doctor if the player knows how to play Huntress and is good with hatchet throws. What is Doctor gonna do? Shock you? His power does not help him in a chase and he is slower in treatment mode as well. Run Calm Spirit and he is a simple M1 killer. He is the best killer for tracking but there are counters for his abilities. The only thing Doctor is better at that Huntress is that he has a longer lunge and has 115% movement speed. Most tier lists place Huntress above Doctor. Doctor is mid tier at BEST. He is so overrated as a killer.

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Bravo0413 said:

GhostrickSpecter said:

@Wolf74 said:
I don't know why people overrate Myers so much…

As I mentioned in my analysis on him, he excels in Chase and Map Presence. Although he's a slow killer, but his small Terror Radius in Evil Within I and II makes him extremely terrifying! Combine with Monitor & Abuse and Dead Rabbit he can just sneak up on Survivors very easily! And his extended lunge range and auto-aim in Evil Within III makes him a powerful killing machine!

He is a trapless trapper in T2 and has nothing for the chase.... what does he have for the chase?... T3 is where he gets something for the chase but it's not what makes him good its his addons without addons he is nothing but again a trapless trapper... the only reason people overrate him is because he is arguably the most famous horror icon... you put him against huntress or spirit he'll get wrecked 

Michael has Mindgames

@Wahara said:
My exact estimates in order of effectiveness once mastered:

Nurse
Hillybilly
Hag
Spirit
Myers
Huntress
Doctor
Pig
Clown
Leatherface
Trapper
Wraith
Freddy

Broken up specific tiers:

S+ Nurse

S: Billy

A+: Hag, Spirit

A: Myers and Huntress.

B+: Doctor and Pig.

B: Clown

C: Leather face and trapper

C-: Wraith and Freddy

Toss ups:

I had a hard time deciding whether to put hag over spirit, Myers over huntress, and doctor over pig. I chose the hag over the spirit in the end because she has more versatility insofar as her ability to adapt better to the flow of the game. If she's experienced has a decent grasp of the map, she can adjust her trap placement to survivor movement patterns. Her main weakness is that she can usually only defend one side of the map at a time, so she has to herd survivors to where she needs them to be in order to be a real master.

The spirit is great for her ability to have an extremely strong and fast early game advantage. The haunted ground + Ruin combo is fairly nice since it makes survivors more weary to destroy totems. She can almost always take advantage of that full minute and get someone down because of her speed. Where she falls short under the hag, though, is her ability to handle looping. Both killers can be looped, but the hag has more tools at her disposal to deal with it. She can set up traps, she can fake a trap, she has collision add ons, or can simply abandon the chase on a dime when someone else triggers a trap and suspects they might be an easier target.

The spirit only has two options: Out mind game the survivor and spirit fury.

Putting Myers over Huntress was also a hard decision. Ultimately, I chose Myers because he has much more versatility than Huntress. The evil with 3 lunge quickly ends mindgames at unsafe pallets. You also have to pay really close attention to how much power he has left to stalk from your team so you can know when it's safest to engage. The add ons you can combine to give him unlimited tier within 3 while at the same time shortening the duration it takes to get there make him virtually unstoppable since he can usually get there by the time the first generator is complete.

He also has utility even at Evil within 1, especially on maps like Lery's memorial institute. You can get 4k's simply by sneaking around and pulling people off generators. The Huntress, by comparison, can be equally deadly but she's too dependent on hatchets. Even in the hands of a master, the hit-boxes are pretty unreliable. The situations in which she runs out of hatchets and is forced to give up a chase to stock up hold her back.

Moving onto the The Doctor and The Pig. This one was probably the trickiest. Personally, I struggle more against the doctor than other killers because I'm a very stealth based survivor, so I might be a bit biased. Both have the ability to slow down games and the ability to soft counter looping. The doctor has his shock stun and Amanda can crouch ambush at unsafe pallets. The doctor's answer to looping is typically more effective, though. Amanda has to wait until she's chased you to a pallet where the survivor feels forced to play that game because they haven't spotted another pallet or can't make it there in time. Even at that, the speed of the ambush isn't a guarantee you're going to end the mind game quickly.

Her main utility is her zero terror radius crouch. It's excellent for catching survivors off guard or fooling them into thinking that you've left the hook just to sneak right back for the punish. It's also useful in chases if you can tell the survivor isn't looking behind them. Crouch and mislead them into believing you've abandoned the chase but are secretly watching them sprint behind some cover. The Doctor still outclasses her in that regard because he doesn't have to waste as much time, he can simply shock around if he loses or is about to lose the chase. Amanda's reverse bear traps are also very hit and miss. You rely on them to slow down the game or to catch survivors out in the open attempting to remove them, but the survivor may simply take their chances and work on generators. I often do this when I play against the pig because she'll assume I'm going to busy for awhile and not bother.

lmao, WHY is hag GOOD? #########? She SUCKS.
Everybody says she has good map control with her traps. However, this is so not true. Survivors can easily stealth past these if they're looking for them and they will be if they're decent, they can be destroyed by flashlights which are probably the most used item in the high ranks and even if they are triggered the survivors get a MASSIVE notification that they have been and this gives them enough time to sprint burst away. Agreed if the survivors suck she can generally get a free hit on them or if she has shackles, but neither are very common. Her traps are also very useful for distracting her: run towards her trapped hex totem during a chase or while somebody is going for a save and the killer will go for the totem 9/10 times.
In return for all of this the hag is slower, is short as hell making her FOV tiiiiiny and has a smaller terror radius.
The terror radius isn't a problem if your actively looking around, which you will be if your decent.
So yes hag might be good at low ranks, but she just gets bullied to hell in the high ranks. So why is she up there with hillbilly and Nurse!? #########?

@NiceToMeetYou said:

@Soul_Consumption said:
I feel it should be
Nurse
Billy S+
Spirit

Hag
Huntress S
Clown

Doc
Pig A
Myers

Wraith
Cannibal B
Trapper

Freddy Bad

lol love your freddy bad.
I agree with most, however not with spirit, hag or myres.
I think hag and myres should be switched. Myres has massive chase and killing potential and his evil within can be used as tracking rather effectively. Hag, as I have rage commented before is TRASH. Her traps are distractions more than helps, can be easily stealthed through or burnt with one of the most used items in the game. She has no killing or tracking potential with a tiny FOV and a slower speed, relying on her traps and smaller terror radius to get kills, both easily countered. Hag is BULLIED at good ranks ffs!
Spirit I feel should be in s class as her power is purely for mind games and can be more harmful then helpful if the survivors know what they're doing. I have made previous posts on all of this so I don't want to repeat myself for other people who have read everything on this discussion. However, those are the main points. I do agree with this tier list more than the original, however. That one TRIGGERED me so hard :chuffed:

Thanks for that. I see what you're saying about hag and myers, maybe I was a bit biased because I play hag a bit more than myers. As long as my Rin is somewhere close to the top I'm content.

LRGamer said:

Bravo0413 said:

GhostrickSpecter said:

@Wolf74 said:
I don't know why people overrate Myers so much…

As I mentioned in my analysis on him, he excels in Chase and Map Presence. Although he's a slow killer, but his small Terror Radius in Evil Within I and II makes him extremely terrifying! Combine with Monitor & Abuse and Dead Rabbit he can just sneak up on Survivors very easily! And his extended lunge range and auto-aim in Evil Within III makes him a powerful killing machine!

He is a trapless trapper in T2 and has nothing for the chase.... what does he have for the chase?... T3 is where he gets something for the chase but it's not what makes him good its his addons without addons he is nothing but again a trapless trapper... the only reason people overrate him is because he is arguably the most famous horror icon... you put him against huntress or spirit he'll get wrecked 

Michael has Mindgames

Yeah?... so does every other killer... trapper has mind games as well only he can also just set up a trap at the pallet mid chase... loop closed... Michael doesn't have that hes stealth based but is like 7ft tall, he can 1 shot sometimes and is easily looped... 

Parity said:

LRGamer said:

You sound like the average Survivor Main 

And you sound like the average killer main. Crying, whining and leaving mid game cause you can't use tactics. A good killer can easily kill 2-3 survivors a game.

You are talking to a Rank 1 Killer Main
I do play Survivors as well but you and your friends, which also indicates you being a Survivor Main, seem to have no idea about balancing in an asymmetrical Game and you clearly have no idea about the state of the Game