Survivors receiving 5 second haste status off hook to prevent tunneling

strikerfreak12x said:

     These developers need to start fixing toxic survivors and killers. Both are getting upset about things and I very much get both sides as I do play both. I believe that I'm a pretty respectful killer and survivor and it seems like they are doing pretty well fixing things for killer and survivor but there is still one issue for survivors. Tunnelling.
       Killers I understand will go after the same survivor if they have to because they can find the others, but let's face it. It's not fun at all when you did nothing and the killer wants to behave in such a toxic manor. They have a large number of perks to counter so much and that's great, but what's not fair is when the killer wants to chase you down off of the hook when the person isn't running borrowed time and what's worse is how much easier it is for the killer to track you off of hook. They can follow and follow until you're down.
     Now looking at this from a team standpoint this isn't horribly unfair at all, but when you look at how it affects an individual survivor, it's horribly unfair. Especially when they played nice, haven't gen rushed, pallet looped or anything and the killer just wants to tunnel that person to death from the start and they get no bloodpoints because they can't lose the killer cause of their tracking ability. Meanwhile other survivors can work on gens and try to punish the killers, but it's not stopping the survivor from losing out.      Killer can run bloodhound and predator and as long as they're following, you have no choice pretty much just to keep running running running and leaving scratch marks. Bottom line, you're most likely going to get hooked at least once when you're an average player and if that one hook determines the rest of the match for that one player, then just take the other chances out if that's the way it's supposed to be, but since I know it's not, Imma go with a much more fair solution. Give the survivor a 150% haste effect for 5 seconds and make it so that the killer can't hit them straight off of hook and make it so that the survivor doesn't leave scratch marks. Then if the killers want to argue, don't worry, you gave them make your choice so they can throw a survivor on the hook and it still prevents quite a few survivors from suffering as a result of a killers toxic style of play. Encourage use of these perks, encourage gameplay that requires skill from both sides and quit making it so unfair. Killers can still be pallet looped hard and 360 juked over and over. Balance it so that just as easily as the killer can catch you, you can get away.
     Give survivors more to work with and killers more too. It's not fair how much the killers have in their kits just as it's not fair how much theyre pressed for time and you're leaving us with pretty much not a whole lot of choices which is causing more toxic play. Please encourage less toxicity and please as a community, get good and stop being toxic to win.

strikerfreak12x said:

Uhm
Its a haste, not an adrenaline for one. For 2 it wouldn't be op because it would only be for allowing the survivor a free chance to get away from the hook at least and area. Mainly cause of doctors who like to tunnel you off of hook in madness 3 to death from the start of the game. I never said they get healed instantly. Adrenaline heals you. If anything, it's a free sprint burst which every survivor who runs that get it. It just doesn't leave scratch marks to make it harder to track you straight down after you just got off of hook cause of wraith's bloodhound and predator perk.

I see where you're coming from, but unfortunately tunnelling is a valid technique for any killer that cares about winning. And if I'm being honest, it's scummy (because as you pointed out it's really unfun for the survivor) but not as scummy as camping. Partly because it's actually effective. If you're just playing with winning/completing objectives in mind, tunnelling makes sense in a way that camping doesn't, because if the rest of the team plays well, a camper will often waste too much time securing a single kill, but it makes sense for a tunneller to go after the unhooked player because they're injured and therefore easier/quicker to down.

Typically, killers who care about the survivors enjoying the gaming experience won't tunnel, unless the survivor was really annoying and they just want them dead in retaliation. But from a standpoint of pure efficiency, tunnelling is a good idea. The actual solution, I think, is not to punish killers for doing their job, but to punish survivors for not doing theirs properly - that is, for unhooking their teammate when the killer is right there. IMO, survivors shouldn't get any bloodpoints for hook rescues unless the rescue was a safe one, instead of getting points regardless and then a small bonus for safe rescues. And I'm not saying that tunnelling, or any behaviour which ruins the game for other players, shouldn't be disincentivised - the devs have done a lot trying to disincentivise camping for that very reason. I just think that the disincentive should be a killer mechanic, rather than buffing survivors. Because honestly, killer mains whine a lot about how underpowerered they are, and I think often they're exaggerating a bit, but if I had to pick one, I would agree with them that killer is more difficult to play as things already stand.

@strikerfreak12x said:
     Killer can run bloodhound and predator and as long as they're following, you have no choice pretty much just to keep running running running and leaving scratch marks.

Counterpoint: survivors can run Sprint Burst, Lightweight, Lithe, Iron Will, Urban Evasion, Quick and Quiet, or any of the other perks that make it easier to escape from chases.