Noed

It can lead to frustration, that’s for sure, but it’s easily avoidable.

I’ve had many matches where the killer gets dominated, hard, then miraculously via NOED gets a easy 3k.

Players need to go cleanse totems first

Don’t even touch a gen.

All 4 survivors play the match like Corrupt is being run and stay off gens for the first couple minutes and cleanse the totems.

The killer may find someone, but the Hex threat is clearly getting cut down easily in the very beginning of the match. Even if Undying is on, all survivors on a totem and the killer can’t get to everyone simultaneously before at least 3 totems are eliminated. Especially if one of them is Ruin. Too many matches end in a 4K when players aren’t checking gens for Ruin before they start repairing them, then they get chased off gens that regress down to nothing.

As fast as gens go, there’s no issue with cranking out a couple or a few after cleansing the totems, before the killer gets 2 hooks in.

Preventing the killer from getting an easy win is all in the hands of the survivors; it’s a team effort that starts at the beginning of every match.

Don't forget that I didn't have the sense to make sure I was no where near the killer when the last gen pops, and not give myself the chance to see if they actually do have NOED, allowing me to go look for the lit totem.

If you are "sick of Noed", start running Small Game or Detective's Hunch and get rid of the totems. No, it's not too much to ask.

I play mostly survivor and Noed doesn't bother me. Yes, it's a crutch perk but many strong perks are. I would rather face a bad killer with Noed than bad killer with weak perks if the latter means I face no challenge at all.

I just did a match. I recorded and watched it to see how long it took me to do all 5 totems on my own.

I cleared it in 2 mins 37 secs.

I would say the problem with this argument is that survivors are then cleansing 5 dull totems on the off chance the killer has no-ed. The only other reason to do dull totems is for inner strength or if the killer happens to have undying. If you only do 4 totems no-ed still works and solo players will never know if they actually got all 5. I think there are more overpowered perks to deal with first, but I would say no-ed is still problematic.

(By the way thank you for the mori change and hopefully the upcoming key change! Seems to be moving towards more consistent gameplay! 😀)

I mean, if the killer got destroyed and it wasn't a close game until NOED went off... that seems like the problem NOED is intended to solve.

"Just do bones 4head"

Seriously though, the perk is extremely annoying and needs a rework. I think my only problem with NOED is that survivors have absolutely no way of knowing the killer has it until someone gets the effect at endgame. Doing bones isn't a reliable counterplay because for all you know, you could be trying to cleanse all 5 totems to counter a perk the killer might not even have.

I try to cleanse in case of NOED but I swear a lot of totems lately are glitching inside walls or places where you can’t get at them. The hay baler on Coldwind Farm is just one of the more obvious places because you can see it. But I have circled a spot wasting close to 5 minutes using small game for a totem that simply isn’t there. Like literally SG is going off when I point in one direction and the only thing that is there is a wall and beyond that the outer wall to the edge of the map and absolutely no place for it to hide. No second floor, no hag traps or anything of the like. nothing.

Hey, if you dont like NOED just Adapt and git gud, stop asking DBD to be insta babby ez win

Detective's Hunch with a map makes cleansing the totems so easy. If it's such a problem for you then bring Detective's hunch and a map

Yes, i know. The answer is: Not at all. You are aware that there are just 1-3 totem spots on each tile, aren´t you? Its not very hard to memorize them. Yes, after a map rework they are changed, but those are not a frequent thing. Detectives Hunch, (currently in the shrine as i heard) is a great way to learn about those spots.

Basicly you tell us you destroyed the killer easily, but were not able to do bones. Thats just you being lazy, because if you outplay the killer, you have all the time in the world to do them.

Anyway, if you destroyed him like you say, for me its a sign that you should never have played vs him and you were just carried by the bad matchmaking. Noed is one of the bandaids killers have to somewhat counter that.

Having to waste more than 70 seconds of your objective time, in solo queue, every game, just to counter 1 out of 78 potential killer perks that may not even be in the match is awful design, period. Something should only have strength if it exists in the match. In the same way that I have no idea a survivor could have DS, I also have no idea if a killer has NOED, and counterplaying either of these perks (slugging someone or even multiple survivors because DS is going to counter your pressure, or cleansing all 5 totems, wasting a minimum of 70 seconds total just for the cleansing time, not accounting for the time wasted traveling the map and finding the totems, possibly doubling the time or more), can literally lose you the game even if those perks, which are 1 out of 78-86, literally do not exist in the match.

This is also terrible for new players and low ranks, and just solo queue in general, which is already tough. Not tough by your statistic that it's tough, but from experience as one of your players.

I dislike NOED for all the usual reasons expresed by survivors. You've heard all of this before, so let me get to my main point: I hate the way there's no warning with these perks until the perk is used rather than activated. The exit gates are powered, but even though NOED is activate, you only get a warning when someone is downed, rather than when the last generator is repaired. This makes a huge difference, because you don't know if it's safe to dash past the killer who is camping the open exit gate, for instance. Hex: Devour Hope works in a similar way: you're only aware of it when it's been used to down someone, rather than when it was activated.

It would be much fairer if survivors were warned of a hex perk as soon as it was active. Contrast this with hex: Haunted Ground, which warns about the perk and exposed status as soon as the hex totem is cleansed and activated.

Still reaching there almo. Love your definition of 'earning' I should keep this on a hot key too.

I feel like people need to know a little 'trick' if you expect no ed, and you're cleansing bones.

If you see a bone near an exit gate: do NOT cleanse that, ever, try finding the others first, so if your teammates would finish gens a bit too early, you'll have a chance of no ed spawning at that location near the exit gate, so it wouldn't be that hard to find. Because if you do cleanse it and don't do the others, that's probably because the bone location was a very tough one it spawned in, so you can't do that save on that last guy that got hit by it.

Just a little tip people need to remember. (Of course this can all be for nothing if you're in solo Q and a random teammate cleanses it, but I never blame them, we ain't a SWF).

I’ve one hook died to NOED many, many times in the past and yes that can suck but I’ve also gotten other survivors off the hook and out on borrowed time and vice versa way more times then I’ve seen NOED used throughout years. There is also the BT bodyguard into dead hard at the exit gate type situations that happen.. with DS it is literally impossible for the killer to stop you.

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