Legion need help

I think Legion got Gutted before he got a chance to have Counter Play & Strategy Formed.But even though they Gutted them i think they are B-Tier

I honestly think the Cooldown is fine.

Power Recharge is indeed too slow especially for how powerful it is.

Frenzy isn't useless though?

Frenzy is good if the Survivor you are after is healthy still. In that case I've sometimes ended up getting downs incredibly fast because Frenzy hit is nearly free and they messed up dealing with my fatigue time.

I don't know what you mean by cool for chase.

Frenzy is better at keeping track of Survivors. Doc's power is good for info, but it is one pulse of info every 60s while Legion can have 10s of info with a 20 second cooldown, though it does need you to stab someone.

True, Legion can't down, but I like that they have a 1v4 power that allows them to annoy and waste all the survivor's time.

Legion does have some stinkers of add ons though.

Edit: Honestly the 2 things I most want changed about Legion is that they stop losing their power bar when M1ing people or picking people up in Frenzy.

I wasn't around for Old Legion, but from what I heard Legion got nearly guaranteed downs. Between Frenzy's extra speed and vaulting, Survivors couldn't really ever do anything to get away or even delay going down. However, Legion's Frenzy got its downs quite slowly. So Legion probably wasn't going to win, but they were probably going to doom at least one person to a very slow, drawn out, guaranteed death.

Legion and the Deep Wounds mechanic had many issues.

1-At the time it wouldn't count down wouldn't start while in chase, so the Legion could follow your scratch marks and blood while facing backwards to avoid starting a chase and, no matter what you did, you would go down.

2-Frenzy attacks had no CD (kinda like mad grit), so dodging was not an option as they could attack again and again.

3-Also the first frenzy attack would apply Deep Wounds and the ones after would deplete the Deep Wounds bar further so they could down you in chase after multiple hits and Frank's Mix tape depleted even more so legion could put you from healthy to dying in 3 frenzy hits.

4-Did I mention hitting someone with deep wounds didn't cancel Frenzy?

5-Frenzy attacks did count as basic attacks and interacted with related perks.

6-Legion could see the progress of your Deep Wounds and plan around it.

So basically, He would frenzy hit you and either moonwalk until you're dead or Frenzy hit you multiple times while fast faulting pallets and windows.

well legion currently it's pretty buggy......... first they need to fix it....ain't not gonna give any detail....the main problem is the lunge while in feral frenzy..anyway.... legion just need small QoL changes and some of his addons to be reworked only to be honest

I've suggested this a few times and have yet to hear a coherent argument against it. Most people rage and say "But then I lose all my progress on getting good with X killer." Regardless, I've solved all of these issues. Just switch legion's and the twins powers. Victor is a harasser type deep wound demon (no more clinging to suvivors just pounce, clawing animation, then hop off. Charlotte cleans up his mess.Thr twins being based around deep wound makes more sense. Legion then becomes 3 separate bodies (Susie, Frank, and Joey or Julie) you can swap control between the 3. Their only ability being the swap just M1 killer but with multiple bodies. Addons could modify effects after switching like hemorrhage, exhaust, supressed TR for X seconds, and so on. Use the feral frenzy stun as the animation for swapping bodies. The others just stand idle (body blocking or strategically placed). This is such and easy fix for both killers to make them more fun to play. Giving Victor deep wound (but not downing) makes him make sense, I mean he literally lives within a deep wound inside Charlotte's body. No more stealing him, just use him to keep up wounding pressure, while Charlotte is the mortal threat. Legion on the other hand makes more sense too as now you'd be controlling a LEGION of Teenagers. Also the body block plays or chasing a survivor towards another legion member and swaping before they notice for a nice jumpscare? Could you imagine? Just a thought, or we could keep complaining about how Legion is just a less lethal blight, billy or Victor, speed around type killer.

I think the reason people constantly complain about Legion is that there are several things making him very unpleasant to play, both as and against.

As survivor, his power is as interactive as watching paint dry. You're getting hit, and then hold M1 for 12 seconds, not even getting skillchecks. It's boring and uninteractive, made worse by the lack of agency due to a generous timer. Once you're injured, he's just a generic killer with no fun gimmicks/power to play around.

As Legion, he's not nearly fast enough to catch up to people running in a straight line despite a surprisingly lenient 10 second duration (compared to Spirit's 5 or Bubba's 6-ish). He also eats a MASSIVE 4 sec cooldown, no matter how well he plays, meaning there is a severe lack of reward for good plays despite having a power with no lethality. Finally, his add-ons are terrible. Detection isn't that great since you can't capitalize on the information, Frank's Mixtape is literally a meme (I assume its purpose is to punish greeding the mend timer but Legion cannot see the mend timer, making these types of plays infeasible) as is Stab Wounds Study, and his cooldown add-ons are pathetically weak despite their rather high rarity especially compared to duration (widely regarded as his best family of add-ons).

Is it just me or is Legion one of the few killers where they aren't weak, but play style can have a huge impact on whether or not you're able to do well at them?

I've suggested this idea before, but as a Legion main, what would you think of fatigue being reduced by 0.5 secs for every successful Frenzy stab to a max of 2 secs (assuming the cooldown add-ons are reworked to compensate)?

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edit: name dropping is bad ;w;

Surprisingly this happens to quite a high number of killer mains.

They stop playing killer.

I just think legion mostly need quality of life changes, because most of them when he got his big first rework were totally about making him weaker and less annoying but now they are just a pain, why does the power bar reduce on regular hits? this can go, the fatigue duration should be 3 seconds fix and the add-ons changed, frank's mixtape and stab wound study remained unchanged and so fit his old basekit which nobody use anymore.

He simply need speed add-ons, 3 seconds flat fatigue, change the fatigue and frank's/stab wound add-ons and remove the power bar depletion on regular hit.

There was once a post that peanuts said he'd send to the devs team to make sure they'll see it, these changes were the best i've ever seen and I dream of them becoming a reality