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My current killer tier list
What do you think?
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“S for scrub” lmao what
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I'd say this is pretty close to perfect. No real disagreements here.
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Freddy better than nurse? erm..
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Both of those characters don’t require much skill to play but are still really good hence the name
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Freddy I can understand. Not spirit tho, she requires a lot of game sense, great reads, and great predictions. Her skill ceiling isn’t huntress or nurse but it’s still significantly underrated.
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Lower s tier is for s tier killers that require skill to play. Top is for the no skill ones
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Every killer requires game sense. All you do is follow the sounds and win the guessing game 9/10 times. You can stand still and hit out of it. Not much skill involved there
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It's so weird seeing people say Spirit takes no skill when it is the exact opposite.
How does one play well as the Spirit if they are bad at tracking, predicting and mind gaming the survivors? Add on to that knowing how long her ability lasts + how to use her lunge correctly.
She takes as much skill as the Hag does and, honestly, probably more than the Oni.
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Well of course every killer requires game sense, I never said they didn’t. Spirit requires a lot considering that she can’t actually SEE survivors. Tracking them by sound alone is easier said than done. Not everyone has the mentality to track exactly where a survivor is. Standing still isn’t a skill, but it is a skill in itself to know when to stand still and when not to. I understand you prolly don’t want to admit it, but spirit does require a lot more skill than you realize, although I respect your opinion and we can agree to disagree.
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tracking a directional sound bubble that leaves scratch marks isn’t skill. Especially with stridor spirit becomes autopilot mode. All of the skills you need to play spirit a not killer individual. There’s no throwing arc like huntress or clown. There’s no curving like hillbilly and oni and there no trap placement and prediction like hag and trapper. If you can play killer to any conceivable level you can play spirit.
Im not saying all spirit mains are bad players I’m just saying she does not require any skills individual to her
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I highly disagree with so many of your placements. But different strokes.....
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All of those killers you mentioned require a completely different set of skills. Following scratch marks and being able to predict exactly where a survivor is going is not that easy and is so much more skillful than people realize. It’s prolly easy for you because you might play against potatoes and/or DCers every match. Spirit is the most bashed and misunderstood character in DBD’s life cycle and it’s kind of gotten ridiculous at this point. People only say she’s requires no skill isn’t because of her being unfair to play against, which I do understand and I hope the devs make changes soon. The spirit player still needs to be good to be oppressive.
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Is the skill of tracking survivors specific to spirit though? She isn’t really misunderstood she’s hated on for very valid reasons as nobody wants to be powerless in the most fun aspect of the game.
you don’t see many people complain about killers like nurse billy oni and blight because these killers can excel in chase so long as the player using them is skilled.
as for most bashed and misunderstood that goes to deathslinger at least he has the counter play of doing gens
you can still track invisible players by blood if you have the addon, scratch marks, pain grunts, footsteps, crows and foliage moving. With all that being directional. That is not hard In the slightest
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Umm you do realize you can do gens against a spirit too, right? She can’t be in multiple places at once and is 4.4 just like slinger. She might have some mobility but it’s got a long cool down unlike billy.
Father’s glasses is ultra rare, and no one ever uses that add on, so I have no idea why you’re bringing that up. Again, being able to track with those things are not easy at all and takes practice. Maybe if you have like 5000 hours in the game or playing against potatoes that always hold W, it’ll be easy.
No one can just pick up spirit and instantly master her. I started playing blight very recently and usually 4k, but does that make him skill-less? No. Every player has their own skillsets and learning curves. Some players struggle with spirit because they simply don’t have that specific skillset but they could do better with other killers even ones that are known for a relatively high skill cap. You can have your own opinion, but don’t act like everyone can play spirit at an optimal level, because they really can’t.
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When I said do gens I was referring to slingers lack of mobility a problem spirit doesn’t have
sure no one can pick up and master spirit but that’s the same for any killer(except Freddy). Thing I syou can’t pick up killer like trapper and oni and get consistent 4ks like you do with spirit.
sure some people might find tracking harder than others but tracking is a fundamental thing every killer must learn to succeed it’s not specific to spirit because spirit has no specific skills to learn.
it’s clear I’m not changing your view on this so I’ll say this killer requires skill but spirit doesn’t
.it’s clear that I won’t change your mind so I’ll leave it here at this. Killer requires skill but spirit specifically doesn’t
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Doctor too high. Ghost face much too low. Clown too high. Huntress too low. Not bad other than those small changes.
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Doctor: Has a great chase power and great tracking what more do you need
Ghostface: lacks map pressure and chase potential but has good stealthy does rely on addons to make it better
Clown: Great chase power that completely shuts down most loops enough to get him out of D
huntress: too map dependent and a lot of loops cause her power to be redundant
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You can put on "S For Scrubs" SWF too :)
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it’s easier sure but just because I play with my friends doesn’t mean I’m a scrub
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Same for Spirit and Freddy :)
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What if I’m memeing with friends?
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Cmon, ghosty is better than c tier and if c tier stands for crusty, refer to my name.
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when I play against him to me he is a m1 killer with good stealth but no way to end chases. His power has a long cooldown and exposing people only does so much when you can loop him easily.
cooldown addons make him a lot better but they can only do so much
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How are the twins and doc higher than ghost face
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I used to be this way. I used to think Spirit was for killers who just wanted easy wins, and that she took no skill to play at all... until I played her for myself. I learned that day that Spirit takes way more skill than I thought and because of that I no longer hate her.
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I would put Blight above Oni. He always has his power handy and doesn't get hurt by the second-chance meta nearly as much, and to be honest a good Blight is scarier than a good Oni. Oni can be caught in maze tiles, main buildings and killer shack, and survivors can play safe in the beginning and force his slow start to be even slower. The instadown doesn't make up for it, at least in my experience.
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Twins are very effective at camping and slugging and while this strategy is boring it works quite well
doc has great tracking and good anti loop
ghostface has good stealth and potential instadowns but no way to follow up on them with his terrible chase potential
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Yeah your probably right I only put blight lower because in my experience I’ve met like 4 good blights compared to many good onis
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Imo nurse ghostface and huntress are misplaced, maybe hag too. It obviously depends if you're a console player or not tho. As a pc gamer I think the nurse is currently the strongest killer in the game if played correctly, followed up by spirit and hag. Nurse is perk reliant, and spirit is add-on reliant, but a hag doesn't need anything. A hag can dominate without any perks or add-ons, having these just make the job easier.
A god huntress is actually more scary than a god nurse imo. I've been against huntresses that down me from across the map because they're godlike. The only downside is that she's map reliant. I'd personally say at least A tier.
Ghostface is also incredibly strong if played correctly. Unlike Myers, the ability to remove the red stain and tr mid chase is almost godsent. The only flaw is that he's really often a 115% killer with no power. A tier for me.
Freddy might be strong but he's not unbeatable, just boring to play against. I'd put him top of A tier and that's me being generous. When you make tierlists you shouldn't consider a killer strong because they're strong with a perk or add-on, if that's the case forever Freddy is s tier and iri huntress is the best killer in the game. I'm glad to see that you didn't balance em that way.
Also I think that the clown is the worst killer in the game, but that's honestly my opinion. You can argue that wraith is, but my experience tells me otherwise. I won't challenge you on that tho
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Twins is understandable but not really on doc his loop cancel only works if timed almost perfectly
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I put spirit and Freddy higher due to their eas of use
huntress unlike nurse has some loops where her power doesn’t work and has to reload unlike nurse
hag can be countered by flashlights and disabling her traps when she is carrying someone
ghostface could be higher I just do well in most my games against him and his lack of anti loop really hurts him on some maps
i can see what you mean with clown but I’d argue all of d tier is worse then him due to their lack of anti loop and their struggle to get consistent downs
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It is hard to use but if you get it down is is very good at denying loops to a point where everyone just pre drops which an be dealt with
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For a killer that relies on sound and scratch marks, they really are a no skill killer with their style of play. Out of all the adepts I've achieved, Spirit's was the easiest as I only needed my headphones to secure the win, even against the likes of Iron Will users.
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Put Nurse on SS and switch Freddy with Hag and i agree with your List.
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Billy is not better than Blight against good players. Billy is wayyyy too loopable. Blight is not, and has better mobility and addons. Meh list, would say Nurse is absolutely over Freddy and still the top though. Definitely underrating some killers would say.
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Hillbilly above Leatherface. #########.
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now i dunno if you did the "left (best) to right (worst)" kind of thing in your tiers, so im just going to judge each killer individually on the tier you put them into.
also im going to count the "S for scrub" and "S" Tiers as the same tier if thats okay with you.
1) Nurse - i fully agree on her placement in S Tier.
2) Hag - i agree on her placement in S Tier, though she would be at the bottom for me.
3) Oni - i would move him down by one to A Tier. S Tier for me stands for the best of the best, universally good killers, which he struggles achieving imo. The problems he has would be the required buildup for his power, aswell as the fact that he is indeed heavily influenced by the map he plays on. Oni on Lerys for example is not strong.
4) Spirit - i fully agree on her placement in S Tier.
5) Freddy - i fully agree on his placement in S Tier.
6) Billy - i can get behind the A Tier rating, but personally i dont find him to be that amazing anymore. his map pressure is dependend on the map, his tracking is quite bad and against good survivors he really struggles in loops, often being forced to play as an M1 killer. though i have also seen really good billies do some sick curve plays, so im not gonna move him out of A Tier - he'd definitely be at the bottom of it for me tho.
7) Blight - i fully agree on his placement in A Tier.
8) Executioner - i would move him down by one to B Tier. the Torment mechanic is very unique and allows him to punish unsafe hook rescues like no other can, but map pressure and tracking wise he is not really good. his chase is also quite sluggish (should he be faking his power) and (should he not be faking it) becomes a guessing game that is easily dodgeable by aware survivors.
9) Doctor - i fully agree on his placement in B Tier.
10) Cannibal - i fully agree on his placement in B Tier (given the latency issue where you stun him, yet he receives no stun and still instabreaks the pallet with the chainsaw is fixed. taking that one into account i would go as far as saying high B to low A Tier for him).
11) Huntress - i agree on her plalcement in B Tier, though i can also understand Huntress mains saying she should be A Tier. imo though she and Deathslinger are very similar in terms of power, so seeing him being a solide B Tier i think she too should be there.
12) Plague - i would move her down by one to C Tier. she is quite lacking in map pressure (especially when going after her fountains), the sickness doesnt affect players that are confident in not healing anyway and when she does have her Corrupt Purge the hitboxes are awful. she also complpetely removes an potential survivor time waste other killers could apply with healing, which is quite a big downside imo.
13) Deathslinger - i fully agree on his placement in B Tier.
14) Twins - i have little to no knowledge on them, as i neither play nor face them like at all, so im gonna trust you on this one xD
15) Clown - i would move him down by one to D Tier. He is greatly lacking in map pressure, has very weak tracking and the anti chase ability he is ment to have is easily countered by just dropping the pallet a little earlier. additionally he has soundclues on him that remove certain mindgames, such as the loude vaulting noise he does.
16) Legion - i fully agree on their placement in C Tier.
17) Ghostface - i would move him up by one to B Tier. his stealth ability can be very strong and the stalking too shouldnt be underestimated imo (especially because he gives survivors no info on how much they have been stalked already and can therefore just pop the exposed on them out of nowhere). the stealth also gives him quite decent map pressure, as survivors always have to be on high alert whenever they have no knowledge on what he is doing right now to not risk being ambushed.
18) Demogorgon - i fully agree on his placement in C Tier.
19) Shape - i would move him up by one to C Tier. even though he has some devestating problems to him, such as the slow start up and the latency problem that sucks like a third of the stalk progress you made away, i think he has a very strong and quite frightening snowball potential to him. and exactly that snowball potential is what imo pushes him up to C Tier - even if he would still be at the bottom of it.
20) Pig - i would move her up by two to B Tier. she isnt amazing, but she has a decent map pressure due to her stealth ability, she has a decent anti loop due to her ambush ability and she has a built in game slow down that CAN be very good (if RNG is on your side). i just dont see her struggeling with a lot of the stuff the other D Tier killers have to struggle with.
21) Trapper - i fully agree on his placement in D Tier.
22) Wraith - i agree on his placement in D Tier, however with the right Add Ons i think he is viable enough to leave it behing him and go up to C, maybe even B Tier. especially the Windstorm Add On is very good.
EDIT: some grammar issues i found
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Oni: I could probably move him down but I put him there for his insane snowball potential
Billy: still has great mobility and a consistent instadown everything an a tier killer needs
Executioner : I put him in A due to his second chance perk counters and insane chase potential
Plague: Even if no one cleanses she is still a decent killer but with corrupt pools base and apples she becomes pretty good
Clown: Has very good anti loop and can be very oppressive in a chase in the right hands. Long reload can be circumvented with addons
Ghost face: lack of chase potential and long cooldown but him down to C tier.
Myers: put him so low due to his lack of map pressure and slow start and him getting looped easily
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That is very true about the spirit player needing to be good to play her. The few times I played her, I got no kills and only a couple hits whilst playing M1 style as a I was unable to use her power as I have not learned how to use her properly
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I geuss it just depends on who's playing the killer. Anyone can be s tier in the right hands.
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