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How do I deal with mean survivors?
I bought the game this Christmas and played as a killer only once.
As the huntress.
Throughout the game, I could not find the survivors. I only found one survivor when they i had only 1 gen left, he was injured but managed to ran away.
When the exit was open, everyone stood there, pressing Ctrl and leaving away as I approached them.
I felt pretty sad. I couldn't find them, I lost them pretty quickly in the chase and at the end of the match they gave a kind of gesture that says "You're really bad, we're already out."
Since then I have stayed as a survivor. I have always loved this role, but at the same time I also want to be in the second role, with the power.
I watched videos, read questions that were all related to the killers in the game. And I came to the conclusion that the they are getting hate.
I want to play as a killer but a nice killer, who gives an easy "life" to survivors sometimes. but I'm afraid of the attitude I'm going to get from the survivors. because I'm not good as a killer.
I want to play as The spirit and The legion, but to tell you the truth, I have no confidence to play as killer because of what happened.
I know it will probably take me a lot of games until I get used to it and find survivors. But until then.. how do I deal with mean survivors?
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If they're good, you can't. You'll just have to suffer through them until you get either good enough to counter them, or get deranked enough to get manageable survivors.
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You simply can't win, which is the sad part.
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You just have to keep playing, practicing, learning eventually you'll get better. Check out some YouTube videos
Don't go to the exit gates and turn off messages if they bother you
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Dang, I'm sorry you've had such a crappy experience from the beginning. A lot of survivors do that dumb crouch and gesture thingy before they leave. Not cool but it happens.
I try to play as a nice killer when I do play killer, and yeah some people just tell you you suck. But some people are really grateful and it makes it worth it honestly. I get so happy when I was able to make things a little better for someone playing who's been having super bad rounds. I suggest taking photos or screenshots of when people say really nice things (and it will happen) because it helps to look at when people are giving you hate.
Also, my first round as killer was honestly the scariest. You gotta keep trying. I've never had any luck with throwing hatchets with Huntress btw. In general it's easier if you use perks to find people, like BBQ and bitter murmer. I like making sure I can hook everyone at least once, then people tend to stop assuming I'm super bad (which I actually kinda am)
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You are still new, but if you have red ranks it is impossible to beat them since they are quite experienced in loops, what I recommend you to do better is to watch YouTube videos, see how Otz or TrueTalent plays for example. If you already lost it is not worth going to the starting door because the only thing they are looking for from you is to get angry or sad, do not satisfy it, the only one who commands the game is you. Go kill them all.
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soooo you expect to be good at a game right away and if you are not you get sad?
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It's not uncommon to face much more experienced and toxic survivors as a new killer, and it sucks. There's not much you can do about it, but if you notice you can't beat the team, don't care too much about actually hooking anyone. Take it as tracking/ chase practice and don't go to gates when they open them to watch crouch spamming. Also, disable the chat.
If tracking is major problem, you can play as a survivor for a while, get BP and unlock some tracking perks with it, and then try again. Spies From the Shadows, Bitter Murmur and Whispers are fast to get from the bloodweb. The Legion is actually very good at tracking survivors with their power, and they also have a good tracking perk, Discordance.
I don't know where you searched the survs, but it's usually best to patrol the generators. You can also hear from a short distance, which generator they are working on to save some time.
My first killer matches were pretty much like yours.
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Simply play more games. You had one bad experience. If you have trouble finding survivors play a killer such as The Doctor. You could even play a stealthy killer such as Ghostface and find unaware survivors. Play the tutorial. Watch youtubers. Save up BP on survivor for perks on a killer.
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As has been said before: you just need practice.
set your own goals, don’t mind the actions of the survs and play by your own. If they are already at the gates, either ignore them or chase them out.
i would also recommend playing a killer that you can learn normal M1 killer gameplay with instead of Huntress (she is a slow killer and depends on hatchets, which may be hard to hit)
from the base killers, I would say Wraith and Trapper are good at learning killer basics, especially with Wraith you might find survs easier while cloaked and then learn to chase.
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What's so mean about that?
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Red Ranks are not impossible to beat....
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Buckle up because what I'm going to say is going to sound harsh. It isn't mean-spirited or intended to make you feel bad, but it is the plain, simple truth. You are being unrealistic in your expectations that your first game as Killer would be anything other than abject failure. Everyone has to pay their dues, and you simply haven't gotten started. You want to know how to deal with mean Survivors? Kill them. That's it. Don't do this silly nonsense of trying to balance your play to be a "nice" Killer. You can't learn to play by juggling variables out of the idiotic Survivors Rules for Killers. You play the game, practice, and kill them. Once you get great at slaughtering them, then you can afford to be generous and nice whenever you feel like it. You don't know enough to do that yet, nor is there any reason you should be doing it.
Why would you care if you get moronic salt/hate from the Survivors you beat (or lose to) at the end of the match? Those are just nameless, faceless squawking voices on the internet. Don't look at the after game chat if you are so fragile that some thirteen year old surrounded by cold, three day old pizza can tilt you by saying "GG EZ" or even more hateful garbage. Nothing requires you to interact with Survivors at all beyond inside the match. Do you get my point? If you do insist on reading it and engaging with them, you need to thicken up your skin. My advices is:
- Simply say GG and ignore anything impolite they say.
- Or be extremely overly enthusiastic and cheerful also appearing to not understand their salt. They hate this.
- Or say something like, "YES! Let me taste the delicious salt of your tears."
You sound way to driven by the demons of external validation. You care too much about what other people think. Your self opinion should be governed by fiat, i.e. yourself. Nobody likes the bad sportsmanship that is on display when people get salty. But there is a percentage of the population that are always going to be like that, whether you place nice or as ruthless and mean as humanly possible. Since you are going to do the time, whether you do the crime or not, you might as well just write all of that off. If you want to play Killer, PLAY Killer. Play hard. Learn to be the best, and once you are there you can revisit the notions of wanting to be generous.
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I'm sorry it's been a tough experience for you. I don't play killer much anymore because of things like you mentioned. Unfortunately, the gaming community, which can have great people in it, is marred by immature, selfish, unintelligent people who only enjoy being useless.
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Have a heart buddy! Most of us have felt the same exact thing at one point or another playing killer.
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Sorry for your experience. My boyfriend had almost the exact same experience. He bought the game because he loves Nightmare on Elm Street and wanted to play Freddy.
After two games of intense bullying, he uninstalled. Yeah, no one expects to be amazing right away.
But you expect to have fun in a game you paid for, and not be subjected to bullying.
This game is terribly cruel on new players and I blame the matchmaking system
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Of course not. In the first match as a killer I had no idea if the game is going to be difficult. And I didn't expect the survivors to mock me at the exit instead of just escape. What made me sad was their attitude and bad luck. I don't mind losing.
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Try Deathslinger, pulling them out of the gates while they tbag is amazing :) Using blood warden feels nice too.
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Maybe find some other people in a similar situation and rotate roles in kyf? Might be better than going straight into public games where rank 20 killers can be matched with survivors who've played since day of release
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People who think it's okay to bully new players honestly don't have a life. Best thing to do is to ignore them as best you can. I would suggest until you're more comfortable playing killer, you can press the button at the bottom right of the end game chat and that disables the chat. Otherwise, just keep practicing killer as that's all it takes to get better.
We've all been in the spot of not knowing what we are doing, and a lot of us have been bullied at some point when we were still new to the game. Back when I was new, I've gotten a few survivors that were unnecessarily bullying me just because I wasn't good at a video game.
Sorry you had to deal with that. I hope your experience will get much better moving forward!
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Don’t start with huntress. She is too noisy. And if you don’t know where to look .. . .it just sucks. Her power is punishing if you miss a bunch of hatchets. Try one of the basic 115% m1 killers.
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If you get offended so easily and find it hard to control your emotions, I think this game is not for you. You will either find it unbearable at some point (especially when you reach high ranks), or this game will eventually corrupt your soul and change your personality, bringing you to the dark side, and after several hundred hours you will be one of those t-bagging survivors or face-camping killers. Learning to properly control your anger is one of the most crucial skills this game requires, if you play killer or solo survivor.
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Alright. Here's my tips I give to almost every person new to Killer.
- Don't play Huntress or Nurse. They both can be very difficult to play and honestly both make it painfully easy for Survivors to avoid you all game. Of the free Killers, I would recommend starting with Trapper (though for your sanity... bring a bag every game) though Hillbilly is also not a bad choice if you can get the hang of his saw.
- Don't play any Killer before you've gotten them to level 15. That isn't nearly as high or expensive as it sounds and having all 4 of your perk slots open is super important.
- I recommend getting Legion ASAP. Legion definitely isn't the strongest killer in the game but his Power is very straight forward while also being very very good for preventing both Survivors hiding all game and attempting to bully you. Legion also has the upside of being very serviceable with Perks only from themselves, the base set, and the free Killers.
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Play for you not for them. Honestly once the gates are open I just pull out my phone and wait them out if I know I've lost. That way at best I waste there time while I play a game or watch a video, at worst I get a couple runs of SinoA in.
For chat, if your on pc close it. There is a button by the window in chat to close until you make the choice to reopen it. On Playstation I know you can block messages from people who aren't friends automatically. I suggest this for both. The majority of games will result in dead air anyway, you honestly lose nothing by closing it except the occasional gg.
Finally anything done during the trial is play. If they t bag after a stun take it as playing. There is no reason to take offense to anything that doesn't hold the game hostage or is an intentional delay of game. Especially since if you did the above you're not gonna deal with them anyways.
The games honestly not that bad, you'll have easy games, challenging games, and pointless ones. Deal with all of them as you will.
Just a tip, if you choose to wait them out stare straight up. Stops them from getting free points with a flashlight.
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Just force them out by going at them and hitting them.
They'll either take hits before leaving OR get scared and run out.
This makes the game end quicker and stops them from being able to earn bonus BP through healing, totems etc.
Besides, you're never going to see them in your real life, they mean nothing to you. Move on to the next game or take a break. Change killers or play survivor for abit.
The game is for fun, once the fun stops, you should stop too :)
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They get sad because of how badly inexperienced players are treated. The in-game community is not very welcoming.
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Welcome to life as a killer in this game.
Basically the only answer is keep playing and don't worry about rank or pips.
If you are feeling really crushed by a bad game, and by bad I mean unpleasant interaction with survivors, lots of BM'ing, obnoxious flashlight clicking and noise notifications, taunting, repeat locker stun crews. Yeah it shouldn't upset you but it breaks the immersion, is annoying and unnecessary.
I find the following can help,
Firstly do your best, chasing good survivors is the only way to improve, one day you'll catch and hook em all its very satisfying. I still have the screen shot of my first 4k. Hag, she's been my main since.
Secondly in really toxic games you can open the gates yourself and force the endgame collapse, in that case I often don't bother going to the exit gate just go around the map breaking stuff for BP's. Walls pallets etc. Put the game back in your control.
If you are having a run of unpleasant games, which can happen especially in the evenings, switch out to a blood point farming build and drop your addons, you are not wasting points on bad games and you are maximizing BP return for what you can do. I find BBQ&C, thrill of the hunt, beast of prey and distressing or brutal strength work well for this. You often max out on chase BP's even if you only get a couple of chases and hooks. You also break stuff really quickly.
I play without addons a lot, it has made me feel less invested in the game. I have generally gotten better at chases as a result. In fact sometimes things can seem too easy with powerful addons after not using them for a long time. Save up your good addons till you feel you can crush even the most unpleasant prick of a survivor.
Remember that just because someone is good at the game doesn't mean they are trying to maliciously ruin your game. You often see people attribute malicious intent where none exists purely because its a competitive format. This is called paranoid cognition and does yourself more harm than good, try to be aware of it.
With that in mind though don't get hung up on being a "nice" killer, just play the game and do what you have to do.
Remember you are not responsible for anyone else's fun, I'm not saying grief people and be unpleasant, but playing by "the survivor ruleset" as it were, is often not optimal in many scenarios and you are making the game harder for yourself and easier for people who want to abuse you for it. When starting out as killer... just play, worry about playing nice later when you have the luxury of picking your targets via experience.
Lastly ignore the endgame chat/comments, GG is all you need to say. I've had great conversations with folks after games where we had a genuine laugh about what happened, but more often than not you'll get some grumpy sore loser or bad winner who wants to dump on you. Ignore that its not worth your time.
This is a long post thanks for sticking it out if you did, but I see so many negative posts about that same thing, more people need to play and for that to happen its gotta be a fun experience. A large portion of the player base is killing that experience.
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survivors are A-HOLES in this game to other survivors aswell. everyday you have teammates who purposly do nothing in game and spite other teammates.
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Simply dont care about it and enter matchmaking for a next match.
I'm sorry for the survivors/killers that quickly press crouch button or move the camera up and down when they get me, you're not hurting me for doing an animation quickly
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Well you'll probably experience tbagging almost everyday and if you want to play killer, it would be a good idea to ignore it and not think about it as soon as possible or it's gonna get worse. It's a completely meaningless gesture that you shouldn't ever take personally yet I see so many people still do on this forum. All they're doing is pushing a button to taunt your in-game character, they don't care about or know you personally, and they'll forget about this match and move onto the next and you should do the same.
And if you want help learning the game...
And since you mentioned you wanted to play Spirit and Legion...
There are probably some spirit guides out there but I'm not sure which ones are any good
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I wouldn't read too much into things. I ctrl spam as well in a lot of my games, even sometimes to my survivor mates, its all in good fun. I always say gg to the killer at the end, if it was a good match and intense. Even if he doesn't get anyone, I still say GG. If I die at the end, I still say GG. I wouldn't treat everything as an insult unless they're ya know.. actually insulting you at end-game chat.
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It takes lots and lots of practice to be good at killer. You're gonna have a hard time learning but just keep practicing, you'll get there eventually.
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Dealing with mean survivors is honestly the hardest part of playing killer. The only thing that ever helped me was remembering that the point of playing a video game is to have fun and that, if it wasn't fun, there was no reason to try to "make" myself play anyway. So, going on really long breaks from either DBD as a whole or just from killer. My advice is just to always wait until you genuinely feel like it might be fun to play -- don't do it just to practice.
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Sorry to hear you had this experience sadly the way the game is set now you probably went against a bunch of red ranks and a swf (survive with friends) to boot best thing you can do is find someone who will let you practice playing killer with them in custom game so you can learn the mechanics and better understand the powers each killer has as for the toxicity best thing to do is chase them into the exit gates so they can't keep butt dancing in front of you or play as Ghost Face and butt dance back at them that's always a laugh hope you continue to play the game despite this issue just remember take regular breaks from the game otherwise you'll get really stressed out with it good luck
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Take it from a person that's always in the end trying to be the nice killer.
I honestly start using ebony Mori's now to know when someone is on death hook and don't kill them.
What I do when I notice that I have teams like you described - is just ignore them and go look around at the map; enjoy some time to yourself.
That way you're not losing whatever points you might've made and you aren't being the jerk in the situation.
Never feed the trolls kids; and those that will consider what I'm saying " gives them what they want " - I say bull. If they're being mean then they clearly want to make you suffer. Just ignore them and get some ideas of how to move as certain killers around maps. As huntress too, I'd be practicing my gen shots. ( Get a long good angle and hatchet someone on a generator. ) It's pretty funny.
Otherwise; I suggest not playing killer. I've had way too many rude games - but I still tried regardless. I will always try for those that just want to have a good time.
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@Anniehere About 5 months ago, I was where you are. I got the game because my son plays this game. He's a killer main and I thought I'd do the same. I started with Trapper. Honestly, he's good at learning basics of being a killer. There is an added benefit that someone caught in the traps will notify you where they are and for a short time, they can't move (until they free themselves.)
However, after my failed attempts at killer, I started playing survivor. That honestly helps a lot because you learn how the other side works and how they operate. One of my first games as survivor I got paired with a rank 20 killer who had all the good perks (BBQ, Nurses Calling, Pop Goes the Weasel, forget the 4th, but all of these are from different killers.) There was no way a rank 20 killer should be going against players with less than 10 hours game time, heck, I probably had less than 5 hours game time and most of that was tutorial time. The matchmaking is terrible.
Give yourself time. Learn to play survivor. Watch videos. Especially videos on how to loop, because that will be one of the biggest issues for yourself as a killer. I'm a purple rank survivor and I'm still not good at looping, but getting better.
When I was a rank 18 killer, I had a rank 10 mock me post game chat for how much I sucked and how ez it was. I responded, and said yes, he should have wiped the floor against me, because he was 8 ranks better. Told him, he wouldn't last long against a rank 2 killer either. There are a lot of toxic players. Almost every game, be it killer or survivor, I type GG in the chat. (unless the killer tunnels or face camps.) And when I play against new killers (be it new to the game or new to that specific killer) I try to be encouraging in the chat, especially if all 4 survivors got away.
Typically, my last game of the night is as a friendly killer. I try to approach the survivors, and show that I'm not a threat. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I usually get to chase them, and let them pallet stun me, flashlight blind me, and I break pallets and hit them once. Not enough to down them. Getting them to understand is difficult and sometimes doesn't work. I have had several matches were they let me hook them. Heck, had one match where 2 of the survivors let me death hook them! (that only happened once.) I find it nice to go to bed on a good game than a stressful game. And playing killer IS stressful.
Good luck. Playing killer is difficult and often painful. Build a thick skin and try not to get emotional in the game. Keeping calm helps you to think and play better.
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I'm sorry you played against toxic people so many times. . this is the only reason why my chat is always closed and why i never use or check it before and after a match.
I appreciate your answer and i will take what you said to my attention.
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You are right.
I still wonder if it's fun to play as the killer, because the player will always feel pressure and difficulty against 4 people.
Sometimes i want to play as a killer and just let the players work on the gens. i played against someone who done this. we all hid and he just "nodded" and let us work and escape.
I'm currently enjoying being a survivor. Someday I'll think about how to play as a killer, but my way. =)
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There is a significant learning curve to playing killer. I remember, in my first few matches, I could barely even find survivors, let alone down or hook them. You're starting out with zero game sense or map knowledge on this front, and you just have to go through that climb. It's hard. I suggest learning the ropes with Wraith, since his power is very forgiving in terms of usually buying you a little bit of space to find survivors. He's also simple and forces you to learn the basics of chasing, as he has no real gimmicks. I'd switch to someone else once you get comfortable, because he's not that great against good players. You mentioned Spirit and Legion; Spirit is amazing but takes a lot of game sense and solid prediction to excel with, and Legion's power teaches you weird habits and is frankly just sort of counterintuitive to performing well as killer.
I also recommend trying out perks like Whispers and Spies from the Shadows (both common perks that any killer can find on the Bloodweb), as they are very valuable survivor locating tools. I cannot play most killers without Whispers.
As far as dealing with toxic survivors... I dunno what else to say other than, don't let them get to you. People do a lot of low-effort trolling in this game, but they are just trying to frustrate you, so don't let them. Focus on your play, and you will improve.
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The biggest problem with DBD is less the attitude of people, because I think we could all ignore rude survivors if the match wasn't frustrating on top of it; and more so the matchmaking/ranking not working and it being probably impossible to have one that works.
Thus, you are expected to dump thousands of hours into mastering killer, if you want to play it. You'll pretty much play against the same random assortment of survivors during that time; so you basically have to be as good or better than they are essentially.
So people pick killer; go against people out of their skill range and thus survivors bully them on top of winning easily- because they know they can do so as there is literally no threat to them really.
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Im just like you, want to be a fair and nice Killer (double hook each). Though its really hard to use low Tier Killer and not tunneling anyone without Gens fly.
Sometimes, its just enough to get 7-8 hooks right before Gates open, and there were many survivors DONT recognize that I was actually let them leave and only receive with "ggez noob killer"
To able to do that (be nice with double hook and let them leave + they know you're being generous), I use Spirit with top tier Perks to make sure I dominate survivor, and to make sure they know I dominate them before they leaving
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