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Only Tunnelers care about DS
Change my mind.
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I'm not a tunneler and I care about DS. you change my mind.... prove that I am not speaking the truth about what I am or am not!
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Anyone with a decent amount of hours into the game at high ranks on both sides knows this isn't the case.
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just like only gen rusher care about ruin undying ?
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Never try to change someones mind on the internets or you may lose yours.
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You have it backwards.
It's the people that AREN'T tunnelers that are upset with DS, because you can use DS even when you are not being tunneled.
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Wow that’s deep.
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Yes! Stop tunneling survivors off the generators!
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People who say change my mind will never change their minds, change my mind!
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Okay well first of all tunneling is a valid strategy, and second not only tunnelers care about DS. I could send you multiple clips of times where I have been hit by DS even though I was not tunneling at all.
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You can make and eat a sandwich before the DS timer is up (I know because I've done it) so just because DS is used doesn't mean the killer is tunneling.
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I don't care about DS one way or the other. The only thing I think should change about it is that the Survivor should not be able work on Generators and other things without deactivating it. :) Same thing with Borrowed Time, etc. The Perks aren't for you to do things in the Killer's face.
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No cause this is a stupid take from someone trying to be "edgy." lol
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No. People hate DS because they get hit with it even when they don't tunnel. Have a nice day.
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and sarcastically flippant too! :P
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I would say only trolls and survivors that need more than 3 chances care about keeping it.
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On the contrary, it’s only because of DS existence that I’ll partially tunnel survivors to get rid of the perk.
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Exactly, in my opinion it makes more sense to eat the DS early game to avoid any complications when snowballing later on! If they don't have it its a free hook, and i'll let them run free next unhook if they don't have it!
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I do the same thing
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I'm much the same way. Often getting DS'd for me means they better b e VERY good because if they make any mistake I WILL kill them for it. However if I am not DS'd I'll probably give them some leeway so they stay in the game longer- if you have DS you had your chance and I will use all of mine to make sure you die.
Especially if you are doing that locker nonsense or such.
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Yup, you've had your second chance why would I give you another? This isn't tea party by daylight!
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If I get hit by DS it usually means 1 of 3 things.
- I'm playing very well and being punished for it
- I ran into the person I just hooked by chance and forget they were just hooked
- My favorite. The survivor deliberately comes to me because they have DS.
None of my reasons involve ignoring other survivors to take out this one person.
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I'll gladly give up NOED to get rid of DS.
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I disagree but I mean, DS especially with unbreakable is so broken that I would happily just delete noed from the entire game if it got rid of DS. I don't even use Noed so I would be SUPER happy with that arrangement.
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Only ....master baiters... ask for their minds to be changed in their posts!!
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Only inexperienced survivors care about DS.
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I'm a killer main that never tunnels unless gens are going so fast that I need someone out to even the field, which isn't very often. DS as an anti tunneling perk I don't dislike (in fact I think they should remove the skill check because they weaker players that are more likely to be tunnelled are also more likely to miss the skill check).
I hate DS when it's abused by people bm'ing, hook rushing to trade downs so they can try to ds me while unhooking right after they're unhooked, spending 60 seconds tbagging and flashlight clicking right outside a locker etc...
I do realize it's necessary for anti tunnelling off hook. When I play survivor I get tunneled often off hook because I'm still horrible at chase. So even though I strive not to tunnel, I do see how often it happens.
It needs conditions for deactivation. 60 seconds is too long to be tunnelled off hook. When it's used as a bully tool.
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The problems with DS are more than that; it's just that combo amplifies its problem.
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I think 60 secs of protection is too much, Now 30 is no big deal and is logical. But, a whole flipping Minute is just ######### crazy.
Mainly because a lot can happen in 60 secs..It would be like a perk that after a gen is done the Survivors who poped It can't do another for 60 seconds. And you damn well,know fits would be thrown
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I pretty much never tunnel.
the only time DS affects me is when a survivor has it during EGC and if they go into a locker which i just take the stun so they don't have it during EGC. There is also it combined with unbreakable but that is pretty much it and they can heavily nerf what that combo is used for by simply making DS deactivate if you work on a gen, DO IT DEVS.
If you have a problem with DS outside of what i put above maybe don't tunnel, it is really easy to find survivors hell you can hear them through walls just get good at that so you don't think your only option is going for the unhooked guy who probably has DS because your the one at fault for doing what DS is literally designed to counter.
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new fone who dis?
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Wow calling out survivors as tunnelers. I feel offended.
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Kinda. A lot of players do tunnel (even though they don't want to admit it), but I've seen many situations where the Killer hasn't tunnelled yet gets punished by this Perk.
BHVR straight up say it's not designed to counter tunnelling, but I think it should be horseshoed in the role for better balance. The fact it can be used for many situations shows how overwhelming it is.
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I think DS is fine. Please don't change.
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Oh, sorry. You got unhooked, fully healed, and completed a gen, but I picked you up at the 59th second. I'm such a filthy tunneler, so sorry.
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It punishes good killers for being good at the game and rewards survivors for saving late in the time the killer could have downed/hooked another survivor, with so much time going by you don't realize that injured person sitting on a gen has it. Altnernatively it does its job against killers who do specifically go out of there way to tunnel. But we pretend that it's okay for the good killers because well, they're good, they should be able to just "Deal with" something that is broken.
If you think total immunity for 60 seconds, even moreso with UB, is healthy, but Ruin/Undying is not, then you're lacking some brain power.
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I can hook 2 different Survivors and still get hit by DS.
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You know people used to say that Ruin/Undying could be countered by "Just do the totems" yet it was still busted and did too much for bad killers.
Yet here we are in the exact same position with DS, people say "Just slug lole" when it's still just as busted and too strong even for bad survivors. Of course, the difference being a) UB makes that irrelevant, and B) Slugging, while generating a bit of pressure and time without UB, isn't a hook state, and if the person the killer happens to go interact with is decent at looping, that slug time? It's irrelevant.
A perk like DS allowing what it allows people to do isn't healthy whatsoever, it never has been. People who don't understand this game can't understand how broken it is, because they only see it as "Dur, stops bad tunlrs" they probably are bad players, they don't quite understand what makes it such a big problem that's never really addressed.
It's always amazing how the killer has to assume every survivor has DS and should "just slug" or else they'll lose so much pressure and time. But that's okay. I've never really known another perk to give so much power to multiple people by virtue of "possibly having it"
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Nice job.
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Let me get this straight.
You're tunneling to eat a DS and then tunneling again?
I seriously doubt you're giving anyone any leeway regardless if they have DS or not.
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Let me give you an example about how bad DS can be, I had a survivor who just got unhooked run at me as I'm hooking another survivor. If I hit them, their BT is triggered and they get a free save, if I grab them, they DS me and get the save, if I do nothing to wait out the BT, they get the save and still have 45 seconds left to DS me.
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Here my troll ds post give me validation. There i corrected your post.
Anyone who actually believe what they posted would have backed there statements instead of just looking for attention poor show.
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Another bait thread....Next
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I got hit by 3 DS as nurse back to back, I guess I tunneled 3 survivors at once.
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Ruin and undying wont stop true gen rusher
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Its always fun to hunt someone down, hook them, run into the person you thought got unhooked hours go, down them or grab them off a gen, and then get DSed after they where at full health
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