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How many of you are killer mains?
it may be confirmation bias or not but seemingly every thread about hot topics like face camping, Mori, Undying is filled with a constant stream of killers defending & reasoning these perks/strategies/tactics while thread about DS, Keys, OoO has a plethora of comments from killers who share what's wrong with those from their perspective.
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I´m a Killer main. I think Keys, Object and the reckless stacking of certain perks are completely busted. SWF causes a lot of balance issues. DS has issues, but the debate is overblown.
That being said, I also enjoy Survivor very much, more and more in fact, and I´m very glad that facecamping was removed, Moris got nerfed and that Undying is next on the chopping block.
I´m first and foremost in favor of addressing the most broken stuff in the game to work towards a more balanced experience for everyone.
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How is face camping removed exactly? I do agree with your other points tho
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I was a long time killer main. I am now a true 50/50 player. I play all roles, Killer, SWF, and Solo.
I still believe solo q is the hardest mode in this game.
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Wait a minute... Face-camping was removed? That's awesome, but how? I haven't played this game in a while, so this is news to me.
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I play 80/20 killer, so i know how frustrating camping and tunneling is. I don't really use it often, just when i don't have any other choice anymore.
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Facecamping was only possible back when you could only unhook from one direction. If the Killer stood there, it was literally impossible to unhook. This is what facecamping actually means. Nowadays many people use the term to refer to regular camping, though.
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Idk about others but I wouldn't categorize myself as either. If anything I play the side with the fastest que time. And since survivor has the longest que time I only play that if I am playing with a friend.
I honestly don't see a problem with most perks in the game. I do think moris needed to be nerfed. I think the problem is people focus way to often on that one game instead of the many games they have played. Not every game is going to be x and x perk. Not everyone runs full meta builds. I don't take games personally and I move on after a loss. I know I have had many 4k/escapes and when I get anything less its just whatever.
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I don't really main killer, I play a 60/40 split of killer and survivor.
I'm aware of issues and non - issues on both ends.
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I see, thanks for the head up. The term 'face camping' nowadays blends in with regular camping I guess
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I am a killer main, the reason why we complain about those perks is because of how easy to abuse they are, we get a few things nerf and nothing happens to the other side.
When Ruin got nerf all survivors just told us killer mains "just apply pressure" we then got a strong perk that helped us then it is getting nerf on the next patch.
Most of those perks are unhealthy when used offensively especially DS.
OoO is just unfun to play against but hey "iT gOT nERf" yes because pig, myers and ghostface got destroyed vs OoO when using their power.
Keys just like moris, if you don't deserve the kill/escape, why would you kill/escaped if it's not deserved?.
Also, keys with open handed and blood ember, check it out so you can see how BS it's gonna be with the new buff.
We have been getting killers nerfed, Billy as an example, he only needed an addon pass, not the dumb overheat mechanic, meanwhile the only "nerf" that survivors have been getting is map wise not towards their stuff "bUT wE GoT ToOlbOxeS nErfED!!!1!1" yes fair but they were really strong.
While I do agree that ruin/undying is bs it also had a decent counter and it was based on luck.
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I main killer, but I also play both roles.
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I used to be a killer main, but I'm more 70/30 for survivor/killer. I just can't play more than 1 or 2 matches as killer anymore. It's far too stressful and the way people play as though they're in some world cash cup is insane. Survivors not much better at times but at least I can feel somewhat relaxed
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I play more killer than survivor but i have a lot of experience in both roles and i try not to be biased.
That said I do think OoO and keys are the current worst thing in this game, DS not so much other than when it is used as a safety net to do gens off hook which can be easily fixed if the devs just deactivated it when you work on a gen.
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Basically summed all of it
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Same here 🐷💖
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I'm not a main of either side, I play whichever I feel like playing at that particular moment.
{edited for poor spelling :( }
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🥳☝🏽exactly this☝🏽😌
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I'm a killer main hate OoO but don't care about keys and all that other stuff. Play survivor on occasion.
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I'm a killer main. Pretty much the only time I play Survivor is if some of my friends are down to SWF or KYF.
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I'm a Killer Main too
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I've been called both a killer and survivor main by people looking to invalidate my opinion, so obviously I have a mixed set of opinions 😄
Depends, for me it sorta goes in cycles. For 3 weeks I might play 90% killer, then for the next 2 weeks I pretty much only play survivor. Sometimes the periods are shorter, sometimes they're longer. Sometimes I play them more equally.
So... depends on when you ask. Right now I'm pretty balanced and I'd say it's something like 60/40 survivor/killer.
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I'm a killer main. I play survivor too, but not as much, it takes forever to get a game; and when I do its usually boring. Either because its too easy to escape, or more rarely, everyone dies immediately.
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Was a killer main for a long time, but couldn't put up with anymore of it. Started maining survivor and haven't looked back since.
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I play 50/50 but I've slowly been transitioning to survivor.
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99% of this forum
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I wouldn't call myself a killer main but I do play a bit more killer than Survivor, Probably 60/40 ish. When I play I want to see balance and tend not to jump on bandwagons because of how this game is balanced, being a pendulum that swings from one side tot he other coming closer to the middle each time.
As far as the forum posts go, most of the posts you're describing tend to devolve into ad hominem attacks from both sides and just become childish pissing contests. Unfortunately the only people who tend to make logical points in those posts are people that play both roles and worry about overall game health over one side or the other, those people are usually attacked/insulted and labeled whatever main the person attacking doesn't agree with.
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@JHondo Seems like it. The amount of exaggeration or invalidating arguments with perfect-case scenarios that are next to impossible in solo Q in these threads is rather sad.
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You could treat hooks like PH's cages. Boom. Facecamping is now done.
Would it be good for the health of the game? I dunno. But that's how you could remove it.
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There's so many variables in this game too to defend/deny any situation. Yes a perfect scenario case can show that a person's argument can seem a bit silly but as it's been discussed with OoO, just because the stats say one thing it doesn't change how it feels to play against that perk. In reality you'll remember the bad games or scenarios more than the good ones and come here to complain/vent/offer game changes but in the reality of that same game someone else could have had a really fun/perfect match. There's a massive lack of empathy and keeping an open mind in the forums from all sides. And that's not even scratching the whataboutisms and people that want to take a thread and make it about a completely unrelated issue.
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I differs but overall if there was data, I'm guessing I'd be about a 55/45 survivor/killer ratio player, though lately I've been playing more killer.
My take on keys is that they're a necessary evil. I'd rather lose to a key than just have the last two survivors creeping around the map or just crouching at me to end the game as they're getting rekt.
As far as perks, I agree OoO needs a rework, though I do run it as a solo survivor and have ran it with SWF (I play mostly solo now). I have zero issues with DS, though it wouldn't break my heart if they got rid of the locker tech with it. I think Unbreakable should be basekit (maybe at a slower speed or limited amount of pick-ups).
The only two perks that really drive me up a wall (besides OoO) are Dead Hard and Spine Chill. The alleged counters are weak, and though those perks aren't too strong if one player is running those, it can be quite tiresome if multiple players are running them. I havw no clue how DH hasn't been looked at, but original Mettle was given the kabash. DH works multiple times in a match, even with the free health state, Mettle only worked one time and it had the aura reading downside.
Anyway, just my takes on what I would look at as far as survivor "over-poweredness". I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
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I'm a killer main and you never see me complain about those perks,I simply don't care every perk has a counter perk probably
Example OoO vs Im All Ears
I just hate lag switching, and exploiting,cheating stuff like that.
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Went from about 75%-25% Killer-Survivor for a few years which then slowly transitioned me into a full-on Killer main since a few months ago.
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I started as a killer main a few years ago, transitioned into a 50/50 player, and now I’m back to being a killer main.
My time as survivor definitely helped a lot with mindgames and red light manipulation.
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When survivor's run OoO I'm like
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I play Killer mostly but I dabble between the 2 to finish Archive..
Most of my issues come from seeing how easy some parts of this game are...not thought out well
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Yo same.
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I’m 50/50, and unbiased with almost all of my opinions.
I get mistaken as a 100% killer main though because of how much I post about Clown or other killer issues.
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And so it begins
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So true.
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Probably 80% survivor. Early days it was 50-50 but killers gets the raw deal in this game, so enjoy survivor more.
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My current life schedule only has so much time for dbd. I left a ton of progress behind when I switched to PC from PS4. Survivor queue times are terrible for the time I play. I need all the bloodpoints I can get.
Full time killer main
My hours on PC for 2020 were less than 400h, just to give an idea of how much time I was able to play.
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I used to be a killer main and play nothing but killer. But after the stress of playing killer I stopped and played survivor. Now its 60% survivor and 40% killer. Solo que is hard but I did get better with my looping.
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I'm a killer main. i play survivor occasionally but i prefer killer
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I'm a killer main. I'd say yours is not necessarily confirmation bias. More like in this forum one tends to remember the more vocal and opinionated posts.
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I play Survivor more because of friends, though I consider myself a Killer main. I'm definitely more Killer oriented in my opinions on the game, though.
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Killer main here. Entitled people are on both sides. I feel the game is 85% well balanced lol. I will always give people crap for facecamping though
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I'd say I'm a killer main. It should be obvious that when I play survivor, I don't tbag the killer. But unfortunately some who play killer, who know what it feels like, still feel the need to tbag when they're survivor. And I wouldn't say killer is the power role. They're the power role over weak solos. SWFs on the other hand flip the balance of the game on its head.
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