Taste the Rainbow! Just Admit You Turned MMR Back On

Survivor has a much lower skill cap than killer and all survivors are the same while all killers are different and harder to play. I don't know how to balance it but its def not hours especially because there's a good handful of people who have like 5000 hours and counting and obviously mostly survivors mains. They would have virtually no killers in their pool, i mean really the same can be said about any skill level which is why im still occasionally matched with rank 20 killers who probably quit after the game we play because my random teammates 100% of the time will bully them because they have small brains and dont associate their behavior with the 10 minutes they will wait for the next match.

At this point just make killers NPCs tbh

Yep been getting rainbow ranks all evening. Both with team mates and killers.

I have been getting teammates of varying skill levels. I haven’t seen such big potatoes for awhile. I thought it was the reset.

Past 2 weeks my matches on both survivor and killer have been a shambles, even the streamers I watch suffer with the rainbow ranks / paid actors when they are killer. I doubt they will own up to secretly putting it on, I just wish their new system would be a little more effective.

If it doesn’t work this time round, I think it’s fair to say that the majority of the community would like it if you didn’t try and reinvent the wheel and just go with the tried and tested ELO system or something of that nature.

I had half the heart to make a similar post to this one. My suspicion is Bhvr is running experiments to collect data, although that may be giving a small company like Bhvr too much credit.

A well designed matchmaking process could be handled via a statistical model*, with potentially hundreds of inputs - player tenure and performance, historical perk or killer selection, SWF vs non SWF... there's a lot of variables. Even if Bhvr isn't modeling this as a true statistical model, you still need data to get to a formula.

Which means Bhvr needs data, LOTS of data. It isn't enough to just use the data Bhvr naturally gets via the current matchmaking process, as the dataset will be biased and not robust. To get the data you need, you have to experiment. And Bhvr owns the matchmaking process so it is (theoretically) easy to run any experiments they need.

Of course, all of the above may be complete bogus, but believing the matches are this way for a reason make them more tolerable when the matchmaking is way off.

*If bhvr's goal is 2 kills per game, then any number of generalized linear models could work, where the model is trying to predict the probability of a killer getting two kills based on the inputs. GLMs would be a great first step, ML model would be more powerufl.

I'm also wondering what's up. I've had multiple games with 2 brown ranks and the third being green or yellow while I'm red rank. I'm getting really annoyed by this since I either carry the entire team and get left behind on first hook or escape alone. They either do gens and hide or only hide while I'm taking aggro like 3/4 of the match. The killers also tend to be green ranked with the odd purple.

It was Rainbow-Matchmaking for a while now. I doubt that MMR is turned on, it does not feel like it.

Matchmaking never really worked as rank based but yeah, since PTB activation I also noticed bigger differences.

it also showed me that there in fact are enough survs in my killer rank out there. Still get red tank survivors as a r13 killer but brown rank survivors as a r2 survivor...

disregarding the few matches with obvious complete new survivors, the matches were great though, so if it is MMR it does its job at least most of the time for me. And we all know there can’t ever be a perfect matchmaking system in a game like this.

That sounds like there are not enough players in your area though.

do you have crossplay turned off perhaps?

Yeah, Crossplay is off.

I waited 5min after that canceled match (screenshot) to search for another match, so I wouldn’t be in his lobby, and I got him again! The same guy! It’s seriously starting to drive me crazy, tbh

There’s got to be more killers in the area playing on a weekend morning.

I’m going to have to turn on crossplay just so I can play against a different killer for a change, smh

Its likely worse now because of rank reset. Even when matchmaking was more consistent, I knew to expect more yellow and green ranks in my game when rank reset me to purple.

Thanks for clarification 👍

Something is up. Like OP said, rainbow ranks almost every match. Me at 2500+ hrs getting survivors with less than 100 who have genuinely never encountered the killer I'm using. It looks like MMR and smells like MMR, plus it would be the uttermost peak BHVR to have pulled the first iteration only to change absolutely nothing and roll it back out 6 months later.

I started learning Nurse just yesterday and have played her almost exclusively since then and can say (almost) without a doubt that MMR definitely is not on.

Courtesy of the fact that I have seen only reds, purples and a sprinkle of greens since I started Nurse.

If you think it is bad now...

Boy o boy. @Remindme in 3 weeks.

I believe them that it’s not MMR. Matchmaking times are just horrible currently so the matchmaking is more lenient, meaning you get weird rainbow lobbies. People complain about queue times but this is the logical result - people get thrown into mismatched games to keep their queue times from getting too long.

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