A reminder that Head On is still the most disgusting, abusable SWF perk to date!!!

Have you heard of BT?

A team of SWF Head On'er's gives me major PTSD whenever I see a locker

If a survivor is downed by a locker and you know at least one survivor has Head On, why wouldn't you just check the locker? After the first time it happens, that's on you.

This just makes me wonder why they took away Enduring's ability to reduce all stun time instead of just pallets, when several iterations of the perk actively included reducing stun time from perks specifically.

I know it's hard to deal with, but honestly.. just bait the locker, or avoid it.. If they are by a locker, either prompt the survivor in the locker to hop out by going up to it, or grab them out if they aren't prepared. It sucks, and yes- some lockers are unavoidable. But a majority of them are, and if not, it's easily stopped if you know how to.

You can open the lockers if you feel you will be stunned by head on. It is really counterable once you know what they are doing.

The hitbox persists for as long as the animation plays out and for whatever reason it overrides melee attacks. Not sure about projectiles.

That may look buggy, but it always works like that and it's very consistent. It's just the way it was designed. Why? Because. You have to stay back until the animation is over and only after you lunge. Or, better still, instead of lunging you get close spamming space bar for when they jump back in.

Also, for whatever other reasons, it's the only exhaustion perk that doesn't make you exhausted by simply going for the activation trigger, i.e. fast vaulting out of the locker. You actually have to stun the killer. It makes no sense whatsoever, especially for devs who are obsessed with 'consistency'.

Back to the OP, I've gone against Head On squads. While it might be frustrating, they're very inefficient teams. They almost exclusively get away with it if the killer tilts. Which, to be fair, is probably the whole point of the strategy. Full meta perks are much stronger and by a long shot.

I meant when they are downed

I love this perk, not using it but going against it because 90% of the time is a free hit and when playing huntress who I run iron maiden on its a jackpot

An exploit is a deliberate abuse of a software vulnerability to gain unwanted and unauthorized access or benefit. Head on is specifically about stunning the killer, and that's precisely what it does. It's really useless in a 1 v. 1 situation, where the three second stun is kind of underwhelming, and  SWF survivors have every right to use it, as I have the right to use ruin and surveillance. There's a difference between exploits and strategy.

It's not that hard to avoid lockers, or even to bait out the stun. Approach like you're going to run into the range, and then abruptly shift away. It's done wonders for me. But more important than your ability to juke lockers is the fact that they're down two survivors who could have been doing gens, instead of waiting around in a locker.

And yes, I am getting it. I've gone against 4 member SWF with vigil, Q&Q, head on, and DS a million times. As with any other SWF, you have license to tunnel and camp, or even just slug everybody when they keep jumping into lockers. Provided that you can loop somewhat optimally, getting an early down while avoiding or baiting lockers isn't that hard, especially since you get free hits on failed head ons.

I think going against Head On is funny. It happens, I go "Oh #########, nice play lol" and then look out for it later.

Dude, I will take Head On over ANY other exhaustion perk.

That's not true (unless something was changed recently that I'm not aware of - if so, I'll be glad to change my point of view upon sources provided)

Head on stun is validated basing on killer position at the point of time when survivor initiates jump-out-of-locker animation, but applied once it is finished wherever the killer is at that moment. The validation itself is survivor-sided, which sometimes results in questionable stuns from your perspective as a killer. For the very same reason, it does not override melee hits and if you are fast/lucky/laggy enough, you can hit the survivor mid animation.

Honestly, Dead hard is more cancerous then that perk and dead hard does not even come close to the thing of BT or DS in terms of bs..(Well,other then going thou killers..like really?)

I've not re-tested it recently. So, it might very well have changed fwiw. This was back at the beginning of 2020 and it was very consistent.

As killer, I stood still in a spot and checked if it was out of stun range by trying to head on. Then, from the same spot, we tested by walking forward once the animation had already started, but not finished. That would stun me every time.

Then, we tested in the same fashion, but this time lunging into the survivor. That as well resulted in a stun without the survivor taking damage.

Lastly, we tried by swinging when being right up to the locker and as soon as the animation started. Again, same results as above.

I don't doubt that with lag it could've been possible to hit the survivor. But we all know how DbD handles latency.