Slugging to fix pacing

Me, playing Survivor and killer both at the same time, I don't see 'slugging' as a bad behaviour.

There is DS, maybe. There is the chance to be picked up by another nearby survivor. Maybe I run unbreakable..

When I play survivor I am always thankful to the killer to let me slug and when I play killer sometimes I decide to slug someone because - he already was on hook and I hit him right after. Or I just think there is something more important to do and go to a far away gen and let survivors use time by ressurecting the slug.

So yeah - I don't really get why "slugging" is so frowned upon by most players.

But I have to say, when I play killer I usually don't camp the slugs. I just let them be because I have something more important to do or because I want to give them another chance/lenghten the game.

I would always rather be slugged when I'm on survivor.

You will love my Twins build. Undying+Ruin+Sloppy+Dear stalker. Its literally designed around 4 man slugging. To be honest, after Ruin+Undying get erased from the game, I think every survivor game regarding high-level will just be 4 man slug oriented. It really sucks because I like playing all the killers but its not fun playing killer if every game is uphill battle that gets played 1 gen or in EGC for 90% of the game vs ultra high-level. I'm sad that that slugging will be only way to win consistently with so many negative killer patches. Oh well, so be it.

I do not like slugging as survivor purely because it shows weakness in the killer's ability to chase within alloted generator time window so in order to fix generators, slugging is used as shortcut to scapegoat an imbalanced aspect of gen speed to chase to hook ratio.

I don't understand why survivors hate slugging so much and call it "boring". Is there really a difference between slugging and being on a hook? At least you can crawl around on the ground.

The choice to slug or hook is actually a pretty interesting one from the Killer's perspective. It's really a symptom of the gen speed / chase time ratio, in that the Killer really cannot reliable finish enough individual chases for a 12 hook game.

Slugging is good because you don't need to essentially stun-lock yourself for about ten to fifteen seconds every time you down a survivor to hook them. You also don't reveal your position for an extended period of time, you can get back to chase sooner, and the survivor on the ground is still for all intents and purposes useless until they are healed. The drawback to slugging are that it does nothing to advance the Killer win condition of hooking survivors. You can slug a survivor as many times as you want, they can always be healed and monkey around again. Until you hook them thrice, they are still in the game. As a side note, a subtle detail of slugging vs unhooking is that a slugged survivor, freshly downed, takes longer to get back up than it takes to unhook one. So at least for a short while, it is actually harder to rescue a slug than a hook.

Hooking survivors kinda stinks compared to slugging. You might lose all of your pressure to survivors saving their friend while you pick them up, you have to animation lock yourself and slowly walk to the hook, etc. If there are multiple survivors in an area, you are essentially giving each of them around 15 seconds to do whatever they want. Even on the unhook, the killer needs to be careful not to hit the survivor on the hook due to their invincibility. The problem is that the killer needs to get hooks on survivors to end the game.

So you are right that slugging slows down the game and gives killers more chances, because the killer can generate pressure more quickly and not be vulnerable during the carrying phase.

You are right that it gives survivors more chances assuming they get picked up, because being slugged and picked up is essentially a free hook state for survivors. You lost a chase and went down, but you aren't losing one of your three limited hook states for it.

Its pretty reliable when I'm playing nurse or twins. in fact most of my games end up as that. I emulate that with lesser killers as well, but its not as strong because most of the other killer lacks have terrible chase potential at loops which are in complete survivor control. All the safe pallets just zap all momentum from the killers. on top of that, your required to slug continuously for very long because of the common 4 unbreakable+DS every game. I'd say for average low-tier m1 killer, 4 man slugging is on the survivors errors in loops but for stronger killers, its definately on the killer player to make slugging effective more so than the survivor.

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Slugging is more fun for killers, but if you play survivor it's awful. It's really boring to sit there and be slugged. It's really boring to have to go save 2-3 teammates that were slugged just to get slugged yourself. It's actually a very sucky way to play unless you have an actual reason to slug which generally does not happen (unless fear of the person having DS/trying to 4k and not let the last person get the hatch).