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FIX IT

friendlykillermain
friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162
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FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.

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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @friendlykillermain said:
    FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.

    Devs tried it but the their idea was not "satisfying" enough, so it got dropped just like the SC/DS rework.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:
    FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.

    Devs tried it but the their idea was not "satisfying" enough, so it got dropped just like the SC/DS rework.

    they need to rework it first though

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @JanTheMan said:
    The hatch is a fair part of the game that gives the last survivor a chance to escape.

    but if i find it first i should be able to close it and not wait an hour in a stupid standoff with a undeserving survivor. and what about hatch camping how is that fair if the last survivor has a gaurenteed ######### you to the killer who worked so hard just to get robbed.

  • Sheldor
    Sheldor Member Posts: 215

    In every game that ends like this you have a chance to make a decision to take a boring hatch standoff with a chance for a hatch grab or not or just get that last hit and move on. It's your choice about your usage of time.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Sheldor said:
    In every game that ends like this you have a chance to make a decision to take a boring hatch standoff with a chance for a hatch grab or not or just get that last hit and move on. It's your choice about your usage of time.

    but its such injustice that we have to let them escape in the first place and they know it i swear i can hear the smug look on their face when they saunter up to me and start teabagging waiting for me to dc or hit them.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    @JanTheMan said:
    The hatch is a fair part of the game that gives the last survivor a chance to escape.

    Change the way the last survivor can escape, just because its in the game doesnt mean that we have to accept it.

    instead of a hatch show the survivors aura to the killer for 1 minute (blinking aura, every 5 seconds or so) if the survivor stays alive for that 1 minute, make both exit gates open themselves. No more standoff. Survivor has to prove himself to stay alive, instead of 'hatch camping'

    • No more camping.
    • Skill vs skill 1v1
    • Killers gets his 4 man if he dominates
    • Survivor cant hide all game, has to be dominant in loops
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Nick said:

    @JanTheMan said:
    The hatch is a fair part of the game that gives the last survivor a chance to escape.

    Change the way the last survivor can escape, just because its in the game doesnt mean that we have to accept it.

    instead of a hatch show the survivors aura to the killer for 1 minute (blinking aura, every 5 seconds or so) if the survivor stays alive for that 1 minute, make both exit gates open themselves. No more standoff. Survivor has to prove himself to stay alive, instead of 'hatch camping'

    • No more camping.
    • Skill vs skill 1v1
    • Killers gets his 4 man if he dominates
    • Survivor cant hide all game, has to be dominant in loops

    love it hatch is just broken and dont even get me started on the red key

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    yeah but when was the last time a survivor actually did the objective they just sit their and wait and im sure to follow them but nothing if i hit them even when were far away they will just sprint burst far out of my reach its stupid and needs a fix.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918
    edited October 2018

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

  • I_am_Negan
    I_am_Negan Member Posts: 3,755

    Just smack them upside the head and move on to the next game.
    Who cares if one gets away

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

    You font wind it up, you stand ON the hatch, throw it at your feet, and smack them.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @I_am_Negan said:
    Just smack them upside the head and move on to the next game.
    Who cares if one gets away

    its frustrating though i cant remember the last time i had an actuall 4 kill because of the stupid issues with the hatch i know it sounds like im whining but why cant i have a satisfying ending too once in a while

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

    You font wind it up, you stand ON the hatch, throw it at your feet, and smack them.

    i swear the tonic doesnt work like this on ps4 because everytime i try to do that it just gets thrown forward and even hitting them once isnt enough because they can still crawl into it.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @friendlykillermain said:

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    @Jack11803 said:

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    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

    You font wind it up, you stand ON the hatch, throw it at your feet, and smack them.

    i swear the tonic doesnt work like this on ps4 because everytime i try to do that it just gets thrown forward and even hitting them once isnt enough because they can still crawl into it.

    that’s odd

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Jack11803 said:

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    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

    You font wind it up, you stand ON the hatch, throw it at your feet, and smack them.

    i swear the tonic doesnt work like this on ps4 because everytime i try to do that it just gets thrown forward and even hitting them once isnt enough because they can still crawl into it.

    that’s odd

    yea it is once agian i know it sounds like im whining but when this happens every game it just takes all your effort away because whats the point you wont get a satisfying ending anyway.

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559
    edited October 2018

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    seriously! I didnt know that

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

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    @Jack11803 said:

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    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    You found it and just sat there?! Find the survivor! Geez all the killers on this forum are potato

    can tell if this is a joke or being serious.

    I’m dead serious. You’re objective (if you don’t want a standoff) is never the hatch itself, it’s intercepting them before they reach it. If you’re afraid they’re waiting, then you didn’t “find it first”. Or y’know, just slug the third guy, or use BBQ, or use Doctor.

    im talking about when you find it then the survivor finds it and you cant do anything as they parade around you waiting for you too give up.

    Use clown. They can’t jump while intoxicated.

    but you cant just drop your tonic you have to back up and lob it and while you do that they hop in its impossible to win unless you have a tombstone piece and just mori them and even if you down them and pick them up how about those instances when every hook nearby is too far.

    You can throw it at the floor. I told you all! These killers on the forum are potato!

    you cant and the wind up is too long

    You font wind it up, you stand ON the hatch, throw it at your feet, and smack them.

    i swear the tonic doesnt work like this on ps4 because everytime i try to do that it just gets thrown forward and even hitting them once isnt enough because they can still crawl into it.

    that’s odd

    yea it is once agian i know it sounds like im whining but when this happens every game it just takes all your effort away because whats the point you wont get a satisfying ending anyway.

    Well if it’s getting all buggy, sorry I can’t help, but that sucks. Feelsbadman

  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,056
    edited October 2018

    Last survivor never deserves it.

    They always wait till their buddy dies on the hook.

    Or they don't try to do gens or save people, which is why they are the last one.

    Undeserving.

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @friendlykillermain said:
    FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.

    its fair, its also not broken

  • I_am_Negan
    I_am_Negan Member Posts: 3,755

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @I_am_Negan said:
    Just smack them upside the head and move on to the next game.
    Who cares if one gets away

    its frustrating though i cant remember the last time i had an actuall 4 kill because of the stupid issues with the hatch i know it sounds like im whining but why cant i have a satisfying ending too once in a while

    Understandable, I get a 4 kill once in a blue moon just shack it off. Chug a beer or hit the bowl whatever you like

  • Sheldor
    Sheldor Member Posts: 215

    @friendlykillermain said:

    @Sheldor said:
    In every game that ends like this you have a chance to make a decision to take a boring hatch standoff with a chance for a hatch grab or not or just get that last hit and move on. It's your choice about your usage of time.

    but its such injustice that we have to let them escape in the first place and they know it i swear i can hear the smug look on their face when they saunter up to me and start teabagging waiting for me to dc or hit them.

    If you truly think like this about a situation in a computer game you should seek psychological counselling....

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    @friendlykillermain You just need to kill faster, feel free to slug folks to give survivors more to do.
  • douggie123
    douggie123 Member Posts: 1,316
    Most of my 4ks come with Myers or trapper. If you catch up with all survivors early on in the game then it works. although I once had a glitch as a killer where enough gens had been repaired but the hatch didn't spawn, it didn't bother me too much cos I got 4k but the survivor was a bit upset and tried to blame me for hacking.
  • douggie123
    douggie123 Member Posts: 1,316
    Peasant said:
    @friendlykillermain You just need to kill faster, feel free to slug folks to give survivors more to do.
    This will only work so much because some survivors don't help team mates they are solo in my experience
  • Incarnate
    Incarnate Member Posts: 677

    The hatch standoff is not a good gameplay part, and it litterally just waste both players time.
    It would be much better if there was an interactable game-element that would allow the last survivor to directly open the exit gates without having to work the generators, like an emergency generator. Implementing this should obviously remove the hatch.

    Gameplay-wise the survivor can go for this element, the killer can protect it, but it's not something that would allow escape outright. This way, if the survivor activates the element, then the exit gates still needs to be powered. Which would make it much more close to the normal end gameplay.

    Another angle is simply remove the hatch, but when there is only one survivor left, it could automaticallly power the exit gates, where they would still need to be unlocked. This might seem to easy for the last survivor, but this is much closer to the end gameplay, which also allows for end gameplay elements to come into play, like for instance NOED, Adrenaline, etc.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    Last survivor never deserves it.

    They always wait till their buddy dies on the hook.

    Or they don't try to do gens or save people, which is why they are the last one.

    Undeserving.

    Exactly perfectly put

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    Baby survivors need their hand out and "oh #########" card.

    If we could close it, they might cry and not get blood points.

    If killer is doing well, survivor still needs a panic button and way to easy ecape.

    Killer's would be too overpowered if survivor wasn't given every possible chance to win without having to use brain or skill.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    Last survivor never deserves it.

    They always wait till their buddy dies on the hook.

    Or they don't try to do gens or save people, which is why they are the last one.

    Undeserving.

    Yes you poor poor killers, you can't be bothered to actually go look for that last survivor, you can't be bothered to leave the person you've got camped close to the hatch. You can't be bothered o use your superior movement speed or abilities cough Billy, Nurse, Rin, Myers, Wraith and go look for that survivor.

    You can't be bothered to go look for that survivor even when you're a Hag and have the area around it trapped. you can't be bothered to actually go hunting for that survivor that has no chance of doing gens when the moment they do they'll get found.

    You're not entitled to a 4k and that's what the ops complaint boils down to, he even says it in an earlier post complaining about when the last time they got a 4k. If you're camping teh hook i'm not going in and giving you another free kill, if you're camping the hook and the hatch area i'm not giving you a free kill.

    Instead of complaining that you can't get a free kill, go earn that kill and don't say you earned it so teh survivor should just give up. You earn that 4th kill by going and getting that survivor, not by camping the hatch. If they get out they earned it, if you get them before they do you earned. it.

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @powerbats said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    Last survivor never deserves it.

    They always wait till their buddy dies on the hook.

    Or they don't try to do gens or save people, which is why they are the last one.

    Undeserving.

    Yes you poor poor killers, you can't be bothered to actually go look for that last survivor, you can't be bothered to leave the person you've got camped close to the hatch. You can't be bothered o use your superior movement speed or abilities cough Billy, Nurse, Rin, Myers, Wraith and go look for that survivor.

    You can't be bothered to go look for that survivor even when you're a Hag and have the area around it trapped. you can't be bothered to actually go hunting for that survivor that has no chance of doing gens when the moment they do they'll get found.

    You're not entitled to a 4k and that's what the ops complaint boils down to, he even says it in an earlier post complaining about when the last time they got a 4k. If you're camping teh hook i'm not going in and giving you another free kill, if you're camping the hook and the hatch area i'm not giving you a free kill.

    Instead of complaining that you can't get a free kill, go earn that kill and don't say you earned it so teh survivor should just give up. You earn that 4th kill by going and getting that survivor, not by camping the hatch. If they get out they earned it, if you get them before they do you earned. it.

    but you cant leave because as soon as you do they hop in if killer finds it first they should win if survivor finds it first then they should win. also you can do gens because the killer cant under any circumstances leave because of the chance the survivor is waiting for you to leave.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,307
    edited October 2018
    Attackfrog said:

    Baby survivors need their hand out and "oh #########" card.

    If we could close it, they might cry and not get blood points.

    If killer is doing well, survivor still needs a panic button and way to easy ecape.

    Killer's would be too overpowered if survivor wasn't given every possible chance to win without having to use brain or skill.

    No they scraped the close mechanic as it didn't solve the problem of ending the game quicker, they also want it to be an equal chance for both sides not just shift the balance.

    The same could be said for baby killers who complain, lack of brains and skill, the real high rank players have no problem killing or getting 4ks if they want too maybe your just not good enough and blame everything in the game for that makes you feel better.

    > @friendlykillermain said:
    > but you cant leave because as soon as you do they hop in if killer finds it first they should win if survivor finds it first then they should win. also you can do gens because the killer cant under any circumstances leave because of the chance the survivor is waiting for you to leave.

    The whole reason for the hatch is to do with the lore and the ranking system, the entity feeds off hope, the last survivor has to have hope or the entity wont be able to feed, it also should be hard to double pip or 4K as in terms of perfect balance it should be 2 die 2 escape according to the devs, no one is entitled to a 4k or escape and that's why it needs reworked so its a fair chance for both sides.

    If you feel the standoff is too long then let them go, same as survivor let them grab you when jumping in, its being stubborn that prolongs the game not the mechanic itself, it comes down two players who feel entitled to kill or live.

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187
    Lots of words for just 1 -not granted- escape out of 4...
  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Radiant said:
    Lots of words for just 1 -not granted- escape out of 4...

    @Radiant said:
    Lots of words for just 1 -not granted- escape out of 4...

    eh i guess it is but still this issue has been around for far too long. forget decisive strike and swf this needs to fixed first.

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187
    Is not an issue at all. 3/4 kills are perfectly fine, and the hatch is not spawning under the surv feet, so there is 50/50 you find it first or you find the survivor and youre the one with the knife.

    This attitude of killers in hoping devs would solve any little thing that annoy you is really funny.

    If youre not good in finding survs change perks or killer: there is plenty of choice.
  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Radiant said:
    Is not an issue at all. 3/4 kills are perfectly fine, and the hatch is not spawning under the surv feet, so there is 50/50 you find it first or you find the survivor and youre the one with the knife.

    This attitude of killers in hoping devs would solve any little thing that annoy you is really funny.

    If youre not good in finding survs change perks or killer: there is plenty of choice.

    well no you cannot hunt the survivor ever. if they are the last one alive and 2 gens are done your first priority is find the hatch because if you waste your time trying to find them chances are they will find the hatch and leave. also yes your the one with the knife but heres the biggest problem if you hit a survivor at all when their the last one and they dont have the exposed status then your ######### because while you wipe the blood off the temporary speed boost will put them a good distance in front of you and by then your not close enough to grab them out of it. basically it comes down to this killers can work their asses off and get a 3 kill but what will almost always happen is the 3rd survivor will dc or not struggle and the last survivor is already at the hatch waiting for their friend to die. they are purposely ignoring others so they can selfishly get the easiest ######### win and then have the audacity to message "you suck" , WHAT? the hatch awards the last survivor a way too easy guaranteed win and robs a killer of his hard work. how is the hatch fair if it forces the killer to waste hours protecting it while the survivor parades around? ######### the hatch. just tell me how the hatch is balanced if the killer finds it first and cant do anything to close it how?

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187

    unreadable walltext: would you please use punctuation and paragraphs?
    then I will read.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    Master said:

    @friendlykillermain said:
    FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.

    Devs tried it but the their idea was not "satisfying" enough, so it got dropped just like the SC/DS rework.

    SC got nerfed with the healing change. I didn't really think it needed a change but I'm ok with it. 

    But DS needs to go and idk why they keep pushing it back more and more. They ought to release a PTB with the nerfed DS and just let us test it out for #########'s sake. I'll happily take a DS nerf before the hatch nerf. 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Radiant said:
    Is not an issue at all. 3/4 kills are perfectly fine, and the hatch is not spawning under the surv feet, so there is 50/50 you find it first or you find the survivor and youre the one with the knife.

    This attitude of killers in hoping devs would solve any little thing that annoy you is really funny.

    If youre not good in finding survs change perks or killer: there is plenty of choice.

    Why is there no safety mechanic that always lets the killer kill one survivor at least?

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187

    There is no mechainc that grants an escape.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    Slug the last 2. Hook them quickly.  No more hatch play. Tada.
    You are the bad guy. You do not have to play by the rules of the survivors. That does not make you a bad guy.

    Maybe do some strategic recon. Find the hatch before it opens, and zone survivors away from it. Or intercept the last guy.

    You are not entitled to the last kill, which you would basically ensure by closing the hatch.
    The hatch play is one last chase opportunity. 
  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,056
    edited October 2018

    @powerbats said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    Last survivor never deserves it.

    They always wait till their buddy dies on the hook.

    Or they don't try to do gens or save people, which is why they are the last one.

    Undeserving.

    Yes you poor poor killers, you can't be bothered to actually go look for that last survivor, you can't be bothered to leave the person you've got camped close to the hatch. You can't be bothered o use your superior movement speed or abilities cough Billy, Nurse, Rin, Myers, Wraith and go look for that survivor.

    You can't be bothered to go look for that survivor even when you're a Hag and have the area around it trapped. you can't be bothered to actually go hunting for that survivor that has no chance of doing gens when the moment they do they'll get found.

    You're not entitled to a 4k and that's what the ops complaint boils down to, he even says it in an earlier post complaining about when the last time they got a 4k. If you're camping teh hook i'm not going in and giving you another free kill, if you're camping the hook and the hatch area i'm not giving you a free kill.

    Instead of complaining that you can't get a free kill, go earn that kill and don't say you earned it so teh survivor should just give up. You earn that 4th kill by going and getting that survivor, not by camping the hatch. If they get out they earned it, if you get them before they do you earned. it.

    More power to ya.

    Keep the game unbalanced.

    It's just another get outta jail free anyways.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @Master said:

    @Radiant said:
    Is not an issue at all. 3/4 kills are perfectly fine, and the hatch is not spawning under the surv feet, so there is 50/50 you find it first or you find the survivor and youre the one with the knife.

    This attitude of killers in hoping devs would solve any little thing that annoy you is really funny.

    If youre not good in finding survs change perks or killer: there is plenty of choice.

    Why is there no safety mechanic that always lets the killer kill one survivor at least?

    Did it ever occur to you that survivor need to be over 3x more appealing? Guess not.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Swiftblade131 said:

    More power to ya.

    Keep the game unbalanced.

    It's just another get outta jail free anyways.

    Hatch isn't unbalanced, only how it can get into a standoff which is why they're trying to find a balanced way of dealing with it. You just want an easy kill which isn't happening.

    How is is a get out of jail free card again, oh wait it's not since the survivor has to find it and actually make it out. Perhaps you should go back and read all the ways killers can stop the person from getting the hatch.