No Longer Use Gen Regression Perks

I use Corrupt for the most part

It's not gen regression but map/ gen pressure early

I am using PGTW on clown and legion (not really caring if I get any use out of it though)

Pig: Sloppy, Corrupt, BBQ and Whispers

I do sub Sloppy out for STBFL on some killers

Or any killer... it shrinks the map off the start

allows you to look unblocked gens for survivors running to them

I don't have ruin undying so I can't default to those lol

I do enjoy synergizing Oppression however. I think it goes great with Overcharge, PGtW, and even Thrilling Tremors. I enjoy these perks more because they aren't hexes and the effects are likely to stay the whole match.

I'm too dependent on Whispers too. Even Doctor I use it to get the most out of SB. Its one if the best and reliable locating perks imo

I only ever used ruin for the hag adept I’ve got no use for it lol my main build I’m going to try and stick on all my killers is light born blood warden deerstalker (changes depending on time challenges) and iron grasp makes it so much easier for me being able to slug find and not worry about blinds and when you mix in basement over saving hook rushers and cocky teabaggers you get 3-4K easy

Aren't these just the meta perks that were used before regression was a thing?

Different killers for sure have different needs. On Pig I tend to run strong regression, especially ruin-surveillance, because the goal of Pig is to get a lot of hook states while the gen count is high and she 'detects' survivors by having traps on them that make their movements very predictable.

But say... Pyramid head maybe wants one regression perk and to focus on detection overall, because his goal is to just go on a downing spree and constantly to be sending people into cages, due to his unique feature of having a shorter proportional downtime from hooking compared to overall survivor repair time assuming 3 survivors and only 1 rescuer, than any other killer. So he wants to just constantly chain chase to chase.

There is nothing wrong with regression perks, but they definitely aren't the end all be-all. I think killers could use a liiiiil more regression in their base kit because the average killer DOES depend on them a bit too much (Good luck playing say... Ghosty or Trapper consistently without one), but if you don't run one you aren't inevitably doomed.

However, the reason they are so popular is simple: If your really good at killer, you don't need whispers to know a survivor is nearby in general. It makes the detection aspect easier, but it still exists without it. However, you literally cannot punish survivors for stopping gens without regression perks like pop or new ruin. So these perks give you capabilities you do not really get from any killer power or base kit effect. Its the same as how killer powers bias heavily towards things that either bypass loops or give strong map mobility, rather than instadown effects or detection effects: Detection and instadown perks are dime a dozen, but the ONLY way to get map mobility is powers.

You did the right thing.

None of the gen slowdown perks are worth it. They are all to weak to make a difference. Killers are better off with tracking perks. Try using NC with M&A. You'll be surprised how much pressure you'll get out of that.

A streamer tested it (with hag).

Running corrupt vs not running it.

To his own surprise, he performed better without corrupt.

Reason was, that he ran quicker into survivors while he had it equipped. Which gave him less time to spread his traps.

I never guard my Ruin, I know when it goes, it goes, but I also main Oni. By the time it's blown, I've hopefully gotten my juice and can dash the survivor who took it down.

This is making me want to try some new stuff though. I usually go with Sloppy (of course), Distressing/Infectious Fright over M&A/IF, but I could swap out my Ruin for Coulrophobia and see what happens... The Whispers thing is interesting... but I don't think I would like it on him. I can use an add-on to increase orb aura distance and literally watch them drop from someone on the other side of a wall. He makes a ton of noise when Wrath activates, and I feel like the combo of Whispers and his champion-level heavy breathing might make me miss something even more important, like someone entering a closet right behind me or rustling some cattails.

You're valid. Those perks are meant to improve on something you already have, not replace your sense of the game. Some people stack BBQ and Nurse's Calling, which seems excessive to me. It feels like they just want the perks to tell them where everyone is so they can get easy downs. Rhe redundancy feels like a big waste of a perk slot.

Even without NC, self-carers do more to mess with their team's flow than some killer perks do. Every time I see someone using it, my mind is blown.

Gen regression perks are so boring to use, I hate them. I refuse to use them on Spirit or any other stronger killer.

I will however use one gen regression (usually Pop) on weaker killers with no map pressure like Pig.

I love running a stealth build on clown using dark devotion and moniter to mess with my terror radius. Really messes up survivors as they don’t expect it.

I've actually found the opposite over these years. I've started dropping all my tracking perks as once you've played the game long enough you know survivor movement and tracking, it's predictable. Without any tracking perks I can typically call out where all the survivors are on the map just through experience and game knowledge. IE they're just convenience and not really needed.

Also most the games "chase" perks are pretty underwhelming bar like Bamboozle. You'll end up saving way more time through slow down perks than the minuscule amount you save in chases or tracking.

Against average players and in most games, sure, you will do fine without slow down perks. However against good players you will get rick rolled. You can be downing players in less than 20 seconds back to back and you will still lose without slow down perks. IE you will lose not because of skill but because of time. The objective completion times simply aren't balanced against a good group now matter how well you're doing.

Pop Goes the Weasel lets me hang in matches too much for me to let it go at this point. Part of the Ghostface playstyle is literally watching survivors work on gens and I need to be able to undo that.