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lack of killers at higher ranks....

Since my move to PC, my in game time has been #########. So my ranks was meh...

Here's another steam achievement that just blows my mind...



Comments

  • Gay_Police_Dept
    Gay_Police_Dept Member Posts: 743

    Dude, that happens in many games. People who play the game and leave usually outnumber the people who stays.

    That doesn't mean anything.

  • Yamaoka
    Yamaoka Member Posts: 4,321

    Only 5% hit rank 5 as killer? I'm confused. Why is that number so low? I thought everyone was red rank these days

    How many % got Rank 1 as killer according to steam ?

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited February 2021

    I am red rank 1 as Trapper, a low tier killer who I am TERRIBLE at still mind you.

    I don't really understand it tbh, matchmaking is so bad and while it can get harder to pip UP it's nearly impossible to DE PIP. Like, say you are rank 6. You play a game, no pip no pip no pip and then pip up even if you only got kills in the one you pipped up. You basically ONLY go up.

    However I would add the survivors past rank 5, are still under 10%. That is about double, however you need ONE killer for every FOUR survivors keep that in mind.

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171

    3.9%.


    They still provide an upper bound of possible players at certain ranks. For example, there's more possible rank 1 survivors than all red rank killers. Although with crossplay on you'd still have to assume more things.

  • BioX
    BioX Member Posts: 1,378
    edited February 2021

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  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    I'll have to see what the percentage is for Legendary Killer so I know how small a club I've joined.

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340

    there are more red rank survivors than killers perhaps...

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    Really? I was vain before, but now... sheesh. Naw... I think anyone can get there with a crazy amount of patience and too much free time. :)

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171
    edited February 2021

    If you look at the percentages there's a ratio of 1 possible killer for every 2 possible survivors at high ranks (ignoring the ideas that ppl have quit, have both achievements, or regressed in rank). Looking at the achievements also shows there's more possible survivors at middle ranks. There isn't much middle ground for killer. It's either reds or low ranks. This does help explain the rainbow ranks.

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340
    edited February 2021

    More red rank survivors than there are red rank killers to support matchmaking

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340

    I'll try to remember to fire up DBD on my ps4 to look for this achievement and see what the percentage is on ps4 way back when...unless someone else has it at the ready...

  • Terro
    Terro Member Posts: 1,171

    Consoles don't have the achievement. For some reason only PC has these. I looked it up cuz I was curious.

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340

    UGH, I was about to ask for someone from console to check this because I was going to forget to do this... but now it doesn't matter :/ LOL

  • Klakky
    Klakky Member Posts: 444

    How dare u speak with your blasphemous words!

    Trapper is literally the best killer ingame!

    Albeit u need bag add ons to win but he's best in my book!

    If only it was base kit 2 more traps that'd be great

  • savevatznick
    savevatznick Member Posts: 651

    Hit rank 1 as trapper. Did it again as Ghostface and playing strong there for a few weeks.

    Honestly most survivor teams are super scrubby. The problem is the people who know what they are doing will always win, or when the map screws you over as an m1 killer by spawning a ton of safe loops where there is no interaction. The ones that are actually good, you are never getting a 4k.

  • Gay_Police_Dept
    Gay_Police_Dept Member Posts: 743

    That would still mean nothing, most people like to play with friends so it would make sense if more people play as survivor.

    Same happens in games where there's both pve and pvp, pve population is considerably larger.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,342

    Going for the raw percentage is pretty wrong. Survivor at Rank 5 is also only around 9,7%, do you all accept then that Survivor is not easy? Probably not.

    Also, lets compare some Adepts - Nurse has been done by 1,6%, while Hag is only at 1,5%. Quite a bunch of Survivor-Adepts are also lower, does that mean that Hag and those Survivors are harder to play than Nurse?

    It is quite normal that Achievements which happen later in the game are less common. To reach Rank 5 as Killer (or Survivor), you have to play more of the game than just 10 hours.

    (Like, I played Dark Souls 2 for a while a few months ago, I only played it on Console before, it is not my favorite of the Series, but I wanted to give it another go, as mediocre as it is - the first Achievement, creating a Character was done by 93,7%, the second one, to die for the first time was done by 91,8% already. Third Achievement, beating the first Boss, was done by 68,3%... Those are all not hard things to get, but you see that the number is decreasing the later you are in the game. This is the same with DBD)

  • DaFireSquirtle
    DaFireSquirtle Member Posts: 188

    Unfortunately one side is more stressful than the other no matter what you think the stats here don't lie.

    Survivors meta hardly ever changes and only does when they get bored whereas killers meta is always shifting, perks are nerfed and changed.

    This has made the game stale and not fun for many killers who are tired of seeing 4 ds 4 dead hards 4 unbreakables.

    It's stale. Whereas even if the killer uses the same build each killer is completely different so it's less stale.

  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    My survivor Q time is instant at red ranks in the morning, odd

  • Orionbash
    Orionbash Member Posts: 768

    Killer mains will try to tell you that the game is dying because killers don't wanna play killer. This isn't true. There's just no reason to login at the moment with the battlepass being over and the mid-chapter postponed. Once both are active the queue times will be fast again. This has happened every time the battlepass has ended since its introduction.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    and now consider people seemed more inclined to play killers on pc judging by how mu survivor queues have been much longer on average ever since crossplay lol

    my survivor queues on steam were* I hadn't played on psn until long after crossplay was out already so idk how they would have been there before

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  • Orionbash
    Orionbash Member Posts: 768

    You're wrong, silly killer main. But that's OK. :) Maybe on certain servers where the playerbase has always been small. Personally I don't experience any of the survivor queue time issues others complain about on NA East. But I do know instead of being near-instant as it is now its literally hit ready and I'm in a queue when its battlepass/update time.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    He is right to a degree, I noticed that but generally it just made the difference of about 3 or 4 minutes in the worst cases for myself personally before crossplay. But the past few periods I played over the past months or two, it's just been too long for me to not forget I was even having the game on and come back dead when I finally remembered or see that pushing 15 even 20 minutes at least once (at least once I recall for 20 minutes, it commonly pushed or hit around 15 minutes) it was still in queue. I play at night which is probably, why since a few times I did see the faster queues in the morning during the week that others mentioned. But either way I deleted it monday night from my ps5 so I could finish god of war and try the 60 fps patch (finished it last night) before getting around to checking out the control ps5 port (good thing I didn't buy that during the sale a few weeks ago since I just got it on ps+ lmao). I got nioh complete collection remastered preloaded so dbd ain't going back on it for a while unless I decide to remove gow for lunar now that I finished that finally (hadn't played for a couple of years just before the baldur fight lol). I don't need bp on steam, so if I don't decide to grind dbd lunar on ps5 I'll have no reason to play still.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,440

    Killers often don't pip even with a 4k. Survivors have multiple ways to pip, plus they can do next to nothing and still pip from an escape.

  • Deathslinger_Main
    Deathslinger_Main Member Posts: 75

    This is the exact reason. I played a game of deathslinger (B tier killer) at rank 1, everyone had second chance perks, but were efficent with gens and I ended up getting a 2k. I then played a game of survivor at rank 10 and it was considerably less stressful. Why to back to being killer?

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,734

    The achievement stats are meaningless - There was a week last year where it randomly gave people every rank achievement after a few games.

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319

    until mmr you should be praying to god you don't pip anyways so you get fewer of the sweat squads

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,440

    Eh. I play against tournament sweat squads in KYF every other day. Honestly bored by the games I get from queueing regularly.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,245

    Expert survivor (r10) 15.1%

    Master survivor (r5) 9.7%

    Legendary survivor (r1) 6.2%

    Expert Killer (r10) 8.6%

    Master Killer (r5) 5.2%

    Legendary Killer (r1) 3.9%


    Zealous

    In a public match, get more than 8K blood points in one scoring category.

    49.7%

    Take note that half the people who bought the game on Steam haven't really played it.

  • Orionbash
    Orionbash Member Posts: 768

    The devs literally said in their livestream today that queue times are heavily influenced by in-game events which literally mimics what I wrote.

    And you're literally trying to imply that killers are leaving the game in droves. Soooo...take your last paragraph and apply it to yourself. Killer mains. 😒

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited February 2021

    not everybody wants to deal with society and then that too. But at least you use KYF mode for what it's there for. so thank you for that.

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340

    shoud we balance at your level of play or the kyf teams you face🤔

    I dnt want ti quit my job for that

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    I stopped playing just because I got bored really. I'm in no way a "killer god". I don't play Nurse or Huntress and I find the top tiers like Slinger and Spirit boring and unfair.

    I don't know if any other longtime killer (3+ years or so) will agree with me, but killer is too easy now. Yes, the fabled sweat squads still turn this game into a joke if you aren't playing Nurse or Spirit. But I haven't played against one of those in maybe 6 months or more. Killers just too easy now and combined with the bad matchmaking giving me rank 10s against my 3000+ hour Doctor or Billy isn't enjoyable and not worth the lobby wait times. I know a few other killer players who also quit for the same reason. either they found the new killers boring or found the game had become too easy.

  • panernaners
    panernaners Member Posts: 243

    Just ignore them all their post are just to make people angry.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    i dont really give much about these numbers tbh.

    here some more interesting steam achievement chart numbers:

    • only 49.7% of players ever got 8k BP in one of the four point cathegories.
    • only 48.6% of players ever ranked up
    • only 42.5% of players ever got a teachable perk to level 3
    • only 33.9% of players ever got a character past level 25
    • only 30.9% of players ever got a total amount of 1.000.000 BP (meaning overall BP, not hitting the BP cap)


    basically, less than a third of people who bought this game, according to steam, ever really played it.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    This is par for the course. A lot of people just buy games on sale and never play them or only play them once for 5 minutes. I've always assumed thats why you get tutorial achievements. To easier track who actually played it.

  • Chchchcheryl
    Chchchcheryl Member Posts: 1,531

    A shocking amount of achievements in this game are achieved by a max of about 10% of people! And I've done over half the achievements in three months.

    I think it honestly comes down to DBDs retention issue, people buy the game but rarely stay due to the atmosphere and how mentally unforgiving brown ranks are for new players!

  • Chchchcheryl
    Chchchcheryl Member Posts: 1,531

    I'd also like to correct the title

    *lack of killers

  • SpookyPumpkinPiez
    SpookyPumpkinPiez Member Posts: 278

    That number is even higher than what it actually is because there was a glitch which gave me and a lot of other people that achievement even though we didn't reach it

  • Okaythenn
    Okaythenn Member Posts: 47

    i cant even rank up, im rank 12 killer and keep getting put with rank 4 swf. i have no chance

  • snax9111
    snax9111 Member Posts: 67

    well now that DS is fair, im sure alot of killers will come back, me personally im coming back babay