What Killers do you want nerfed or buffed?

I'd like to see Leatherface reworked. It isn't that I think he is OP per say, but that his learning curve is zero. He is an M1 Killer with Insta-Down who is 115%, so the slow down during the tantrum is moot. He isn't going to tantrum until he is on top of you anyway. The stereotype of the Basement Bubba is deserved because why wouldn't he camp the basement? His tantrum pretty much assures he will get both people. Obviously, I just stay away from the basement if possible, and I don't constantly lose to Bubba, but the games are never fun. They are tedious and repetitive. There is NEVER any variation in Bubba playstyle because he is so basic.

*And as a side note, because there is no learning curve, I run into Bubba more than any OTHER Killer.

Prepare for excessively long post as I get these ideas out of my skull:

Trapper: With his upcoming change, trapper is basically perfect. No changes really necessary.

Wraith: With his upcoming changes, wraith is mostly fine--he's hard to play, sure, and he needs add-ons to be really good, but he has the capability to be absolutely devastating. So long as his changes work, any other issues he has can absolutely slide for now.

Hilbilly: At most, I'd want to be able to control the steering with 'a' and 'd,' but as much as I hate him, he's fine, I guess.

Nurse: Maybe make the blink window fractionally larger. Other than that, she's hard to play but well-made otherwise.

Huntress: Iridescent hatchets should deep wound instead of inflicting dying, or force the killer to have one hatchet by overriding other add-ons. Other than that, she's fine--It'd be interesting if her humming functioned as a "soft" terror radius (like Freddy's alternate TR while you're in dream), but I'm not sure if that's possible.

Shape: Pretty much perfect, but I feel as though the tombstone and tombstone piece should be collapsed into one add-on, they seem a tad redundant. Perhaps an add-on that lets you go back to tier 1 for some godforsaken reason? Someone'd like it and make a horrifying build around it, I'm sure.

Other than that, maybe more thematic sound effects? Again, he's pretty much perfect as is. A bit powerful with dual iridescent, but that's mostly balanced so long as you don't feed.

Hag: Honestly, I like her as is now. Maybe change her a little later, I don't know, but she's really rewarding to learn and play as is.

Doctor: As much as I loathe him, he's actually fairly balanced.

Cannibal: His power is inherently fine, but I'm not sure I like how he's used. I've almost exclusively seen him face-camp, and that's not healthy.

Nightmare: Freddy is literally agonizing. He feels off-brand, he's too strong because he has everything, he's a mess. I hate playing him, I hate encountering him. I know they're probably not going to touch Freddy for a while besides some unnecessary buffs/nerfs. I say unnecessary because he needs another rework. A mix of the old and the new, perhaps.

Freddy should absolutely be moved back to the old standard of "can't hit unless survivors are asleep." How do we fix the problem of survivors wanting to stay awake? Make it so they're debuffed when awake! Survivors will "deal with" being asleep as long as possible then just for the standard repair speed. Next, falling asleep--I feel as though freddy could do with a very slightly larger terror radius. Why, you ask? To have it carry the primary means of survivors falling asleep! Survivors would fall asleep within your terror radius slowly, rather than just in general--this would also give you a very slight element of surprise, as survivors won't spawn in, see the clocks over their faces, and go "oh, $^&# me, not again" (though hooked survivors should be immune to this as they are now, for obvious reasons) Next up, pallets and snares. Why are pallets better? They're not, they're just unexpected and thus kill more because they're unfamiliar. Personally, I feel as though the pallets should be the basic part of his power, and the snares should be added by the add-on, seeing as they're more powerful in comparison--detection, chase, slowdown--they have it all! Dream Pallets, on the other hand, only handle loops and that's only if a survivor doesn't know they're fake. Finally, his teleport. An simple fix would be to make it only usable when two (three?) or more survivors are asleep. This prevents truly painful snowballing and keeps survivors from wanting to be asleep all the time, balancing the changes suggested higher up--I was going to go with a "in dream or dead" condition, but once there's two or one survivors left, that would make the game horrible, and three would deprive this variant of Freddy from map pressure once two survivors are dead--that might be better, I'm not sure.

Does this make him different from established killers and more like old Freddy? Yes! Is that a bad thing? No!

Also, he should probably get unique chase music, just sayin'.

Pig: Her base power is perfect! I'm not joking, it's stupid strong--she can potentially kill any one player while doing nothing on the other side of the map! It's inconsistency is actually a blessing, seriously. If anything, make it so boxes don't show up until you have a trap on your head--not active, just on your head. Maybe make it so the boxes require literally anything other than skill checks, otherwise it ends up being more "hold m1" which people find boring, I guess? The very slight element of surprise of not being immediately obvious that your in a match with Amanda until you're right on top of a box would be nice, and the vastly superior option if nothing else gets touched

Her add-ons absolutely need a rework, though: Workshop Grease and Razor Wires I almost never see in use--there's almost no point in stacking them, as good survivors hit skill checks, and great survivors make great skill checks, thus making it even easier to get a trap off (wait, can you get great skill checks on boxes? should you be able to?); Interlocking Razors only work on bad/new players, which means you're basically kicking baby survivors while they're down; Tampered Timer is painful, but technically fair--if potentially very powerful; the Rusty Attachments and Utility Blades also don't really seem worth it for their rarity--sure it's nice to slow their healing, but why would you need to find them? Most times you don't want to find them, and putting them on a hook tends to be a waste; the Bag of Gears, Crate of Gears, Jigsaw's annotated plan, and Jigsaw's Sketch are also fine, if potentially very strong; Rule Set No.2 should actually change how Amanda is played, as is it's off-theme--it should be like Mike's mirror add-ons, or Hag's Very Rare add-ons; Face Mask is strong, and can turn a game in your favor (not guaranteed), as with most inflictions of blindness; knowing how strong her power is, Last Will is fine; I honestly feel like the Combat Straps should do a little more or stack with something; Amanda's Letter is a variation of I'm All Ears, and it's fine, I guess; the Video Tape, John's Medical File, and Shattered Syringe make Amanda more in line with other killers--that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I feel they could be better; Amanda's Secret sort of encourages bad play--it seems to be meant as an information add-on, but it's placed in purple rarity, and I've only seen it used as a way to kill survivors who take traps off, rather than a way to keep a note of where everyone is--maybe have it give one more trap?

Also, she should have themed music. Please?

Clown: Hookay, this should have probably been another long section, but the agonizing fact of the matter is that I don't know how to make him better without making him too strong/weak! The new bottles are neat and all, but it seems like (from player response) they're not exactly what he needed to make him less agitating. Intoxication could linger while being less debilitating? Have it stack for more effect (to keep players from staying in loops, but keep him from absolutely dominating them)? Maybe make it more rewarding at base for hitting a survivor with a bottle? I don't know, and I suspect that most people don't know. Still, that's my two bits on the matter.

His music's pretty sick now though, so that's hella cool.

Spirit: She needs a touch-up. A simultaneous buff and nerf would be best. make her base speed in power faster, but give the survivors a better way to tell that she's using her power (I've heard people suggest a flickering flashlight like the Halloween add-on when she's in-power, maybe it has to be facing a certain degree towards her/within a certain distance)? Every game I've had against a spirit, they've run down the person off hook and only that person, until they were dead--dry, rinse, repeat. In every game I've played both as and against her, I've never seen a survivor escape chase, ever unless she let them. Maybe I'm just bad/good, I don't know, but she seems a touch too strong.

Legion: Maybe reward inflicting deep wound on the entire team? People apparently hate playing against Legion, but I'm not sure how to make them fun to play against, which is a shame, because I love playing legion...

Plague: With her recent-ish change, she's actually fair to play and play against--no changes really necessary.

Ghost Face: He's actually fun to play and play against. As far as I can tell, he doesn't really need any changes.

Demigorgon: His base power is fine, what he needs is a touch-up on his add-ons. Perhaps some stacking effects, a bit of shuffling in rarity, and he'll be perfect. #Barb's Glasses best add-on.

Oni: Very fun to play and play against, if incredibly frightening! Not sure if he needs any changes, maybe a slight shuffling of add-ons to better reflect what they do?

Deathslinger: I hate how often he jumpscares me by walking around literally any object, but he'll be better when maps are better--as is, he's pretty fine. I'd almost like him to be slower, but that'd be cruel to those who play him and make map pressure extremely hard. His chain would have to be substantially longer and take longer to break as balance, and I'm not sure that'd be worth it on either side.

Executioner: I'm not sure his change promotes good play, but he's pretty fair over-all.

Change his chase music back to the old one maybe? It seemed a bit more on theme, but I suppose that's up to the devs.

Blight: I don't play him or against him enough to have an informed opinion. I'm told his POV is garbage, though.

Twins: They reward unsportsmanlike play! If there's way to make them operate a little on their own, it'd be healthier! When you control Vic, Charlotte patrols around where you left her (attacks survivors if they get too close, I donno)? When in Charlotte with Vic loose, let him run down survivors to jump on them--not to down them, just to cling on them?

I know it's hard but to make them less physically painful to play and encounter, it should be done. It's not easy, it's worth doing.

OVERARCHING CHANGES:

Easy way to keep killers from camping besides an appeal to sportsmanship: Have unhooks reward points to killers somehow--maybe in the deviousness category? Safe unhooks might add a bit of additional points to keep them from straight-off tunneling the unhooked survivor? That should encourage players to play with their food in a more literal sense, rather than face-camping someone until they die (and new players rewarding that behavior by hook-bombing).

I would love every killer to have unique chase music, and certain killers to have slightly unique TRs.

Those are less of buffs/nerfs, though, and more mechanically rewarding better play, which'll make the killers better inherently.

As a side note, I feel as though all add-ons that give "additional" blood points are superfluous and should give "bonus" blood points instead. If that's only in their specific category, that's fine! As-is, you have to buy a DLC killer for the explicit purpose of bloodpoint farming, and if that's a little too pay-to-grind.

Rant over!

Nerf I guess freddy and doc nothing drastic and buff have trapper a way to summon traps to his position and just normalize killers that rely on rng

Wraith: Default Windstorm Addon

Trapper: Default Yellow Bag

Pig: Complete addon rework, making them actually usefull

Ghost Face: Stalking without leaning should be 1,5 as fast as now. Leaningstalk is too difficult to get. He should not be revealable behind a wall, that happens all the time.

Demo: Better addons

Nurse: Bugfixes

I love being able to go full monkey brain while playing Bubba. He’s a perfect boi

That's an interesting perspective! Would you like to clarify why you think those changes would make him a bad killer?

It'll make him weaker, of course, but only in a fair way--he's inherently very strong because he has too much in his kit right now, but I thought I was fair with my offered changes.

I eagerly await your feedback!

Thanks for the advice, I guess. I´ve been maining these two for over 2k hrs now. I win much, much more than I lose. This does not change the fact that these two are contesting with Wraith for being the weakest Killer.

Ah, wait, I should give advice for Myers, too!

Make sure you aren't walking out in the open--like, seriously, I see far too many Shape players doing this at tier 1.

Myers's largest advantage is the early-game information you can get while people have no idea where you are.

A second thing you can do is look back and forth while stalking survivors if it seems like they have spine chill, as this will make them think that you are simply looking around or are already in chase, rather than right on top of them!

Advice for Shape is above.

Crouching everywhere and flashlights really aren't that hard, despite what every survivor hook-bombing what they know is a Hag seem to think!

I'm not joking, Hag is very well balanced--even with the add-ons you mentioned.

Mint Rag means that while your range just went absolutely sicko-mode, you have to make split-second decisions if more than one trap triggers--suddenly you can't just bounce between multiple survivors, you have to pick one and stick with them! And heaven forbid you have to use traps multiple times in chase, or if that survivor's got just the edge they need to waste your time, because then you're losing out more often than not (unless mistakes are made, of course, as always).

Rusty Shackles are easy--just DON'T RUN I SWEAR TO G--Seriously, if you just crouch around and look carefully for traps, you're golden. Even better if you can set them off and immediately hide, because then that Hag is going to have to waste time setting them back up or just let surveilling that location go, and there's no phantasm to give away your location.

If you rely on teammates to tell you where traps are when not in chase, you're doing something wrong. Again, I sound like a jerk, but that's just how it is.

I'm giving genuine advice, coming from a good place!

Buzz off, jackanape!

Seriously, though, trying to be helpful, so thanks for telling me I'm doing a bad job.

I´m getting the same vibes. If he´s unironically meaning what he says then I´m sorry for him that he has such difficulties assessing a situation, won´t reply anymore either though. Got some good laughs out of it at least^^

Buffs: Trapper gets his extra trap addon base kit.

Wraith gets his faster cloaked speed.

Blight gets his correct POV

Billy nerfs are reverted (please come back billy players)

Demo gets his rat liver base kit (maybe tweak it a little idk it's pretty good)

Nerfs/Reworks: Spirit's - stand still trick is removed by showing an animation to survivors

Freddy - has a form of cooldown between snare placements (or if he uses them all) if he is to keep all his other versatility

Deathslinger - gets a larger cooldown if he cancels ads (forcing him to take the shot if he wants the down - no free zoning)

to compensate his 1v4 he can now shoot generators to regress them (just give him something to macromanage better).

Huntress - Iri head is changed to only one downing to a snipe (24+m or something)

Oni - topknot is changed. No more activation time decrease

Twins - Charlotte now has terror radius when swapped to victor. Victor also has his own terror radius. This is to address the camping issue with them.

I want to see the speed loss on Pyramidhead's trails removed. I don't think he should slow down when doing it. It disincentivizes people from making trails if it will drop your speed. If we need to slightly increase the wind up of the shockwave to compensate for this, I'm fine with that.

Nerf Freddy or make him actually skill based. Rework Spirit to not be almost entirely reliant on sound and 1 sided guesses. Make ghostfaces reveal more consistent

Buff Micheal by removing EW1, Give trapper a yellow trapper sack basekit and give Wraith windstorm base (again).