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So many complaints. Stop being so ungrateful about changes and improvements.
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and.. now you will see , your killer xD something like motto for the last update? or do you have some other? Maybe: you can test our new movement with the hit, because you will get the hit for sure, we know xDDD stop joking, more seriously, ..hmm.. when the next update? xDDD
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maybe there was missunderstanding kind of such a like "horrible" meaning.. LOL
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please, wake me anybody such a bad dream ... am I playing Freddy party ... or just need to wake up .. in the morning, there will be everything ok, when I start the game next day, I believe it will be such a like normal, lets say LOL
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and.. now you will see , your killer xD something like motto for the last update? or do you have some other? Maybe: you can test our new movement with the hit, because you will get the hit for sure, we know xDDD stop joking, more seriously, ..hmm.. when the next update? xDDD
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Yes lets just settle for making the game objectively worse cause complaining/negativity = bad :(
No idea what your second point is, no update ever made the game globally worse in such a way that people would want them reverted, so it doesn't really apply here. I literally just have people in a discord call tell me if health states change now because I cannot properly focus on it myself, it's way more subtle, with the old UI you didn't need to do this. Still waiting on a justifiable reason to stop complaining when my game experience got far worse for no good reason. Would you complain if they decided to delete the Clown and replace him with something entirely different in every aspect? I'd hope you didn't, I'd hope you only said positive things and kept your mouth shut. If you for some strange reason did, I'd just tell you to stop complaining, many survivors don't like Clown so it's good for the game's health overall, or even if you for whatever reason don't believe that, this patch shows that we can make changes for no actual good reason so not like it matters, you'd still say don't be afraid of change, right?
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So we CAN'T complain about this update being so #########? HUD is just plain terrible. No work around it. Everything is so separated it ######### breaks the porpuse of an HUD. Animations are terrible, REALLY terrible, they look goofy as hell and It's kinda hard to see if someone is injured or not now by the animations. "The game" map rework has tons of safe pallets now. Before the rework you already kinda had to break a lot of pallets, but now? Sheesh, way too much. Also, the window vault that leads to the ground floor, the one of the pipe, has a glitch were survivors may fall inbetween the tube and stay there forever until they decide to go down (I have video proof). They just didn't play test #########. The Clown rework is... Awkward. Don't know if better or worse, but for now feels awkward and lazily thought. I can see some of this problems being something subjective to me, but others are just objectevely bad. They had plenty of feedback about the HUD. Plenty. and the only time they do something about it (colorblind mode) is when someone with a blue checkmark on Twitter calls them out.
Listen, I do like many of the changes they bring and some patches do feel like a bless. I do praise the devs when they do right, but thing is, and I think I'm not alone on this one, they rarely do right. Honestly, how can a group of devs look at the new walk/run animations and say "yeah, looks fine". It's just baffling. But, overall, I do not like how some people just straight up send threats to the devs. That's just not right. I just want them to, for ######### once, do something with the feedback we give in a reasonable time.
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are you high or something? people want to help the game get better. Not turn it into a mobile looking piece of garbage.
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more creepy than before.. lets say, just come to play and will see.. but, rather than this Im going to sleep now
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People would be more accepting of change if the change was... good...
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I have all the rights to complain. The game as usual is super buggy, the devs didn't care to actually tell us they needed to postpone things they announced and I've spent money on this game.
I don't hate the new UI, as I stated in another posts, but from what I've seen of friends playing today, the hitbox are super buggy and there are lot of things to patch. So yeah, I'm giving no appraise this time around (except for the new cosmetics... I think those are good. But no point in playing a cute outfit in a bugged game).
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Given the recent response, this topic has aged about as well as one would expect it to.
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Dude, I can't even center my eyes on the screen to see if a player has recovered or healed while in a chase.
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Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with the new UI, it’s actually a lot cleaner and beginner friendly. It helps a lot of solo survivors and new killers.
People complaining that it’s scattered everywhere clearly don’t play other games like League of Legends, Dota, World of Warcraft, Dungeon Defenders 2, All of the Call of Duty games, Gears etc. Like the list goes on, but god forbid Dead by Daylight.
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the worst thing about this patch is that they fixed the bug that holds m1 or right trigger for you. like now i actually have to sit and actively hold m1 instead of making posts on forums, the the heck would put the leave spectate button on the top left of the screen? ive been updating as i play and i physically cant play anymore after four games, my eyes hurt.
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i Haven’t seen a single person in 3 pages state they like the changes. I’ve played this game for years now and this is the second time I’ve ever bothered to come on the forums - the changes, specifically to the UI are objectively terrible. I legitimately cannot believe they could’ve done that to the UI and thought it was a good idea. I’ve bought items in game, dlcs, etc, to support this game, however, after playing the new update earlier I genuinely have no desire to play anymore. It feels like a new and worse game.
im hoping they make some significant changes. If not, I imagine they will lose a fair amount of players (including myself).
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Those Clown changes are almost godlike, i finally figured out how to properly use both bottles and its crazy as hell.
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i wanted to add that my eyes hurt after playing four games, period. also after paying over 80 dollars and playing this game a buttload i think its fine if i say this patch is #########
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I keep telling everyone this, but so many don’t get it, and keep saying it’s useless.
Glad you’re another that figured how powerful using both together actually is.
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Worshipping every decision the devs make doesn't help either. Without criticism a game will die.
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I'm going to say this because I see this a lot in popular discussions.
There's no way a HUD rework does massive amounts of damage to your eyes to a point where you lose eye sight; "loss of eye sight" is so over-dramatic, seriously — that's ridiculous and doesn't add much to the discussion. I believe you just play the game too much and are just using the HUD rework as your scapegoat for the cause of your eye strain. Again, over reacting doesn't help nor is it constructive.
Being uncomfortable is fine, that would make more sense, but acting like your dying is unnecessary. You should consult a doctor if looking at a HUD does that much damage to your eyes. Playing video games for awhile should cause eye strain and some discomfort, but if a HUD is infinitely more worse than that for you, I believe you might have a health condition that was existing before the rework.
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Ah yes let's thank the dev's for constantly making terrible choices.
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Wut? People not liking some things about this update is not synonymous with 'being afraid of change'. People not liking the hitbox issues, disconnection issues, the fact that Unbroken Emblem is well - very broken in that it doesn't seem to reward any points at all in most cases, even when you escape. I went through seven matched tonight, escaped 3, 1 with the hatch and got no points for it. I guess I should be thankful for prolonging the grind and making some challenges almost impossible to get?
The HUD is now a mess, scattered all over the screen, the information is harder to read. I could probably get used to the new movement after a bit, but overall it feels worse and far less responsive.
I like the map updates and the perk updates seem okay to me.
However, this proclamation of 'stop being afraid of change' is just as histrionic as some of the complaints.
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I think you are the one to talk to a doctor, continued EYE STRAIN can weaken the muscles around the eye and cause all sorts of issues, and YES it CAN lead to loss of sight OR (key word there) WORSENING of sight. It's not just the HUD itself that is the issue but it is the amount of movement you have to make with your eyes and when you see movement invariably your eyes will snap to that location as it is natural to do so. While playing with just the hud will not cause loss of eyesight immediately it can severly contribute to that if done continually.
If you'd like to speak to an eye doctor about the effects of prolonged eye strain please enjoy their description. oh btw you might not completely loose eyesight to prolonged eye strain but if you become medically blind and can not get glasses to cope it's the same thing.
And you say I play the game too much? just how much is too much then? is 3 hours one day after 4 days of not playing too much? is another hour or two the next day too much? and there was no pain, no issues what so ever and have not been since October 2018, 2 matches causing severe eye strain (talking 2 killer matches within 1 hour) and the only thing to change is the HUD what then is the cause of this sudden eye strain???? is there something you know that we don't know?
I will like to know your medical degree for your diagnosis of a health condition that was existing before this rework. You are trying to tell me that it is me and not the game. WOW thanks for your transferance since you know exactly what is going on please DOCTOR KNOW-IT-ALL TELL me the root and solution of my problem. oh yea you are making assumptions from evidence that is not present, you didn't even ASK has this been an issue before? no? ok when was the time before this that you played for more time than when this occured? is there a change? oh yea there is..... the mid-chapter patch applied a HUD that changed how one interacts with the game. Do not diagnose me over the internet, I know what is going on with my own body, I understand how things work and I listen to doctors and I don't wait for things to get so bad I can barely move to get seen by a doctor but you don't care at all, you only wish to defend those that have caused many people discomfort at minimum and out right PAIN and debilitating pain at that!
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Applause 👏🏻
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Thank you for saying it!!! Much respect!!
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How about you stop oversimplifying it and ignoring the issues?
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The OP not realising the actual issue means, the suggestion is irrelevant. Look, just because you think you have no issues, doesn't mean OTHER people don't have issues
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I am willing to make that trade...
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I'm with you man, the only thing people like to do on this forum is gripe. Ungreatful and unnecessary
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Be grateful they made the UI worse for the majority of people? No, people should be able to voice their disapproval.
On the eye strain issue, you aren't those people, you can't say whether its hurting their eyes/giving them a headache or not. Playing Nurse gives me a headache because of the fatigue animation and how frequent it is. Other people clearly don't have that problem. That doesn't make it any less real or valid.
You shouldn't be applauding ignoring other peoples pain/discomfort/disapproval just because you personally don't have it. That's toxic and close minded imo. Especially with how widespread it seems to be.
The fact of the matter is, most people don't like the change, they said they didn't like the change in the PTB and when it got revealed, then it got pushed to live anyway, and then even more people got it and didn't like it, and the previous feedback was ignored so now those people who gave said feedback are a little peeved.
Most people don't like the change and they should be able to express that as long as its not an insult, attack, ect. But according to you we should be grateful they made this part of the game worse. That's asinine.
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I'm not ungrateful, but the HUD change was unnecessary...I haven't played this game for 2-3 months...now I got back to try it and oh man...the HUD is so BAD. Like who can create something like this? HUD information spread all over the screen, I normally turn off some HUD information in other games, cause it just block my view but damn...PERK icons huge as hell, information about other survivor in the top left -> why? Why I have to look there? I Played just 3 games yesterday and I woke up with such a headache and eyeache. And yup...add info about gens in the middle of the screen...like really...such a bad decision. I'm not going to even try to play this game again.
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Are you a surv main and can you run killers?
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Not only is this a problem, they acknowledge it is a problem, and they DO NOT WANT to revert months of work. I too would not like to revert months of work if only a few people say "Hey I'm upset" but when a large number of people say they don't like it, and even more people are saying it when it goes live then they should look seriously at this. NOT ONLY THIS but people are complaining that they are experiencing pain when playing their game. How is this good for the game? sure these people have payed for it, but there are streamers that used to play DBD religiously are now playing other things. I'm seeing even fog whisperers not playing as often as they used to be. King made a recording playing the clown and within 14 seconds or so he ran into a BUG that blocked the clown from going through the bus. where is the QA? what happened? why was this not found? it's not hard to test the maps but that was not done, and funny thing is this map was not touched in the revamp so something ELSE happened and it was not tested well.
you are correct it is not right for people to play doctor on the forums but it is the right forum for those with issues to complain about them and give their reasons as it is the right forum for those without issues to congratulate the dev team. HOW EVER it is not the forum for anyone to tell me what is going on with my body nor discount my reports as I have not discounted yours because you don't think what I say is correct.
@MrPenguin I just realized it may seem like I am talking TO you, but I hope you realize (or that you understand here) that I am agreeing with your points and only expanding upon it and talking to the other people commenting here. I apologize if my thoughts did not make this clear as it is late. :)
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I actually cannot stand your grovelling on these forums. You're not going to get a pat on the back from BHVR so stop. There are serious issues with this patch that have affected survivor playability. Not killer vs survivor interaction but the actual mechanics of survivor. I know you're not a survivor player and have no experience with computer programming but please start speaking for yourself. Sick of your posts.
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Oh lease, tell me how to use it on actual rank 1 survivors :D
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There are a couple things I like: the hook counter, some of the perks being buffed a little, Trapper and Wraith getting small buffs, the changes Clown received... and I like how the devs are trying to get our feedback earlier on with the proposed OoO change, before they officially change it and wait to take our feedback until way after the change has officially happened.
However, there are many, many problems with this update. So many bugs; depiping when you shouldn't be; emblems breakingand not wprking properly; major hitching (at least on console), so many god pallets on the The Game map; apparently you can't buy Yui with shards; hard to tell certain effects on survivors' portraits with the new UI; some people genuinely getting eye strain/motion sickness with this new UI (I played a couple hours yesterday on a decent sized TV and got a pretty bad headache as a result... and normally I play a whole lot more than i did yesterday).
That's only to mention a few, we can list a lot more of the bugs and other negative effects this patch brought on. Also, a lot of the community's discontent could have been avoidable had they communicated with us players earlier, like what they are doing with Object of Obsession, they could have shown what their plans were for the UI a long time ago and that way there wasn't "months of work" kinda wasted in a sense. They have their new system with the new UI, all they gotta do is fix it and reposition much of the information in a better manner.
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The problem is that the previous HUD STILL required you to move your eyes around the screen, so I don't see the difference in either HUDs. I'm no doctor, but common sense tells me that this whole eye health situation is a bit exaggerated, that's what I'm getting at. If you want to make the HUD rework a bigger problem than it already is, go for it, but it's not exactly accurate and doesn't point to the cause of the problem.
You even contradicted yourself by saying, "It's not the HUD itself that's the issue but the amount of movement you make with your eyes". All in all, it's not the HUD, the game just requires you to be active and aware with your eyes, killer especially. I just don't like how people are acting like this HUD rework is literally killing them and giving them health problems, it's so ridiculous.
To be clear, I have my fair share of complaints with the HUD system as well and I hope they do get addressed, BUT my complaints doesn't come with eye health problems, you're literally the first I've seen say this HUD gives you eye health problems. Please, be realistic here. I know you want the game to be in a better state, but exaggerating the situation doesn't help the developers at all.
However, hey, I guess people will say anything to make a problem from bad to worse and worse to terrible. 🤷♂️
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Mega Cringe / Wow :(
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That sounds amazing, actually.
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you obviously don't understand how things work. the old ui had all the information at the lower left hand corner and perks at the lower right. so I could easily GLANCE down to the bottom left which is within FOV of the floor of the map AND the walls that you are moving around. instead now it's upper left, upper center, upper right (lots of extra movement with more than three scoring events). I guess you play this on a 10 inch screen? I mean that's the only place this UI WORKS well for. when I play an MMO I have everything I need at the bottom of the screen instead of all aorund it. I move the UI components around to make it eaiser on my eyes to take in the whole of the screen.
as a killer I am looking more center screen than anything else, yet i'm being dragged upper left, upper center and upper right and then have to come back down to see where I am going. so before you tell me what I contradicted myself on, ASK ME WHY. ASK ME TO CLARIFY WHAT I MEAN. you can stuff your arrogant crap and stop attacking me or at least say, "hey it seems like you contradicted yourself here..." but no it's you're wrong, you contradicted yourself.... just go brown nose even more... I did not have eye strain before playing this game and I've played the game for 10 hours straight (with minor breaks), 6 hours on stream (recorded) and 2 killer matches bout 30 minutes to an hour caused me more pain than I've ever had in any game what so ever.
so here is a screen shot of my FF14 UI, you will notice the majority of it is in the bottom of the screen the parts that are not are not as important to look at unless i need to.
Now the old DBD UI was in the bottom left where all the information I needed was, and maybe if i use a perk like whsipers would i need to look to the lower right. so please tell me how the new UI/HUD does not require you to continually look ALL AROUND your screen!!!!! yea right.
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"Improvements"
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You dont seem to understand whats happening. I personally dont bother if they keep the animation, the ui or any other new feature, because there are game breaking bugs like the chapters before and i wont accept this. They said they focus on fixing bugs and they lost again. The game base is just too buggy! Hitbox problem is the worst thing of all of them in my oppinon and it ruins my experience all the time since the update 4.5.0.
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It's probably best we agree to disagree, but I do appreciate the friendly discussion — wait a second, hold the phone... "I've played the game for 10 hours straight (with minor breaks), 6 hours on stream (recorded) and 2 killer matches bout 30 minutes to an hour caused me more pain than I've ever had in any game what so ever"
One of your previous comments:
You just contradicted yourself again because you implied in a previous comment that you didn't play DBD that much. 😅
That might be why you're having eye strain, you're playing DBD for half a day with minor breaks. I'm just saying, it might not be the HUD at all, but hey, everyone is different. All in all, I have my opinion and you have yours, I'm glad we could debate this in a civilized manner.
I do agree it's convenient to have everything in a corner, that's one of my complaints, but I love the redesign and hook counters for both sides! 😁
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The UI is awful
The clown buff is barely a buff
The game map is now a god pallet maze with obnoxious breakable walls
That's just 3 obvious problems with the update now where's the improvements exactly?
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Yo I see what everybody is talking about now after trying a match, a dude hit me, every single time he hit me, by about a body and a half's length away were the body laying stretched out the long way from head to toe. #########. Every, single, hit. The UI was confusing at firsts ince the scratch marks made me think a couple of guys were dead until I realized they were injured, that seemed counterintuitive. They really need to fix the gd hit detection if they are gonna make us play this crap with not even double bp. It's only worth the log in bonus and then closing the game immediately until they fix that #########.
When an idiot unhooked me right after going up on second hook, I just stood there and said f*ck it. The killer to be a prick stood about the body and a half's length away as if to rub it into my face, then after a couple seconds hit me fromt hat distance. Then turned out to be a tard actually using a mori in 2021 lmfao. I dc since homie don't play that. Fix the hit detection, people are not exaggerating, if anything, they are underestimating how broken hits are. I can't believe I deleted gow to install this garbage again and there isn't even double bp. Also, don't try to spin it'll get you hit lol. And you'll waste a lot of ground trying to undo that decision if you don't get hit. Which would be a miracle if you don't get hit, even when they're not looking entirely at you now for some reason. The survivor's hitboxes are longer and wider than ron jeremy now.
The new icons are nice btw, just took me a moment to realize what meant injured and not dead btw. Once you adjust, and find the UI scale in options (it looked like 1080p UI size and I was like ######### by default) it's not bad. Just counterinuitive injury indications in my opinion was all. But the portraits are pretty nice they actually did do a nice job on one thing this update. And after feeling the hitboxes now, I'm kinda glad they didn't change ds yet since if I play again it's only gonna be to try and be a prick about it.
Also I hope you can stillt ell as solo survivor when the obsession is being chased by the portraits, that was really helpful against some sweatier killers sometimes. Every little safe second helped to get things done faster. Part of what makes swf so powerful is being able to relay that information immediately to the whole group so they never waste a second. If the new UI doesn't let us get a visual portrait indication of a full health obsession being chased that's gonna hurt solos, not that it'll hurt the queues any if they don't wanna play lol so if anything this patch might also address queue times since I got a match within 5 minutes with no bp event indicating fewer survivors in queue lmao.
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hmmm let me see at one point I was playing a lot, and Lately i've had no REASON to play a lot. in 2.5 or so years you'd expect that people will play more at times and less at times.... wow do you only play 1 or 2 matches a day? with that how do you know what is good or not? lol.... you keep trying to poke holes in what I said. and i'd love to hear from you how many hours per day you play, and how many days a week you play.... just because at one time I played a lot, or I streamed for 6 hours playing a game is a lot then i'm curious what you have . you are the one on the limb here. agree to disagree? that would imply I even respect you, and with your attacks and continued attacks on me I can not respect you. You yourself have cherry picked things and are trying to make things look worse because you feel it makes you look better, but you honestly need to move on. What I have said is TRUE, and what I have said has happened. what you imply is not true and what you imply has not happened. you want to agree to disagree? lol gain someone's respect first then as equals you can agree to disagree with out that I would never have a reason to step back from your base accusations.
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I haven't in no way attacked you, I just don't believe the new HUD causes massive amounts of damage to your eyes. I'm sorry if you felt that I was attacking you, I have no intentions of doing so and I do apologize for the misinterpretation of our discussion!
I play around 3 times a day, depending on what day it is, but on a good day, I spend around 8 hours of gaming with 2-4 on DBD. I do take big breaks when I feel like it's needed. 😁
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The UI was not an improvement. While I liked a couple elements of it, I find most of it to be poorly thought through
I understand they like to stay consistent between platforms - but UI is the last thing you should be trying to keep consistent between platforms when one of those platforms is Mobile. Screen size plays a big part in readability.
I usually defend BE when people aren't being fair in their roasting - but this spreading out of UI elements for the sake of consistency was a bad idea and they should have their feet held to the fire over it.
DEAL WITH IT
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