Just if anyone’s curious about reverting the hud.

Tell me, which game UI have you designed? What games would we know your work from?

I didn't realize that DbD counted so many professional game designers among their fanbase.

You must have made some real bangers. What multiplayer game do you design and help develop for a living? Don't be shy, promote your work! I mean, unless you are just guessing and have no actual idea what work is entailed in game design, but think playing games makes you an expert regardless.

It's not terribly hard to design a UI around a small amount of information like what is needed for a game like DBD. Now for games like Crusader Kings or Stellaris where you have economies, armies, intrigue, and politics, the difficulty in designing a crisp UI increases dramatically.

We know they took a single piece overlay and broke it up, which means new scripting under the hood to stop the pieces from jumbling. I'm guessing the vast majority of the work was for stability across platforms, as well as prepping for the elements they want to add in later. Also they had to teach the system to recognize and display each character, which is more difficult than just displaying 4 white busts with names under them. From the livestream they did, it seems clear they changed everything up primarily to give them freedoms down the line to add elements. It'll probably be easier to update as well, as they won't have to take down and edit the entire overlay, just the widget they want to improve. Hopefully they add the option to make them moveable, but that's a small gripe.

IO did the same with Hitman 2 and we ended up getting the best widget to have in a stealth game (silent assasin indicator)

I hope so too, but I think their focus will rightly be on fixing the hitboxes and other game breaking glitches, which kind of underscore how big a change was made, (after all, the ui doesn't register hits directly, so just updating the look should not have messed that up)

If I had to guess, I would say the pip issue is likely because of some update they made to prep for the mmr system to make its (hopefully triumphant) return. They've said when that releases the rank system will serve a completely different purpose, so they probably have to prep for that.

According to his linked in, scott was a beta tester. Not a designer, not a programmer, which explains why now he's paid to play games, and not make them.

It took him an hour to make an image of a ui, have you or anyone else actually used it? How stable is it? Does it work on every platform, or just pc?

It looks like he made a static overlay. He's a professional streamer, so I would worry about his ability if that took him much longer than an hour, but as you sent a video link and not a link to the game he put it in, or the site to download the mod, it appears a static image is all he created.

Damn, that's what I get for skipping through the 15 minutes of ranting looking for it. I gave him too much credit.

At least now we know why there are so many people clinging to the "they could fix it in an hour" fantasy.

I'm the same way with programming or network tasks. Too much time at work hearing "well can't we just make x do something different before the client gets here at noon?" Or for a more real example "hey, so turns out that the client uses lotus notes, not outlook. So we need the system to pull addresses from their linux db they attached to the lotus server indirectly, instead of reading an exchange server. Anyway, go live is in 45 minutes, good luck!"

"We can't go back, deal with it" is what management/authority says to those under them when they realize they messed up but don't want to be questioned about it.

Y'all really on here complaining about UI. It'll take time to adjust to the changes, but damn... it's not that big of a deal. Critiquing the new HUD for future changes is one thing, asking for a revert of something the team has worked hard on to improve is just childish.

"I don't like this change so revert it."

Be constructive and realistic with your criticism.

Knew they weren't going to change the HUD back.

Remember the surveys they get us to fill out asking what we want?! No, me neither.

I always viewed "we can't go back" meaning it would require so much work, delay other projects, and cost a lot to do they aren't willing to do it. Not that it was literally impossible to make it happen technologically. I dont think thats what was ever meant to be communicated. I think they saw this as something that needed to change eventually and knew there would be a lot of issues with it (the fact the hud would change regardless of how it looked) that they prepared to move forward anyways. Now I have issues with it although much more minor than others.

ScottJund has already made this point. But there's just no possible way it took months to do this. Then again looking at the other post from not queen the devs apparently only do 3-4 days of work in a month so maybe it really DID take months to make. But in all seriousness I entirely agree that they wouldn't NEED to undo "months" of work if they were more transparent about what they're working on.

yess bring the dramatics