Feedback for UI & Animation

Let me start off by saying that I am not a fan of this new HUD layout and I know majority of the DBD community isn't either. I am very disappointed to see the Devs actually bring this update to live servers after majority of the DBD community said that "THEY DO NOT WANT THE NEW HUD LAYOUT". Now lets get into why I do not like the New HUD and why I think it hurts killers. As a Kiiler main I played a lot of the PTB/new update and I have noticed that the placements of the HUD is all over the place! I constantly had to keep moving my eyes all over the screen which made me miss opportunities to find survivors on the map. Killers are already at a disadvantage by playing in first person, so why are you making it more difficult for them with distractions all over the screen? Killers eyes should be focused mainly on the center part of the screen because this is where they're going to find potential survivors on the map to chase. The way it was before was perfect because all the killer had to do was look in the bottom left hand corner to see how many gens are left, their power logo and character logos all in one spot! Now its just scattered across the screen and it looks incredibly sloppy.

I am a Plague main and having to look up in the top left hand corner of my screen to see whos infected/ broken is incredibly frustrating for me. The character logos is one of the Plagues main sources of tracking. For eg. If I puke on a Gen and leave that gen and then I see a character logo turn green that means someone interacted with that specific Gen that I puked on. Because of this new HUD I had to constantly shift my eyes in the top left hand part of my screen to check the character logos. This distracted me because I sometimes lost track of Generators and lost chases because of all these distractions. In my honest opinion any Killer that depends on looking on the HUD consistently throughout their matches is going to suffer from this new HUD change and The Plague is one of them! I made a video on my Youtube channel discussing these issues in greater depth. I'll leave a link to it down below.

I can't go anywhere DBD related and not hear people screaming "The sky is falling!". I keep trying to understand their frustrations because how could an entire mob of people be wrong? I played a few matches yesterday and a ton today (Survivor & Killer mind you). Um, what is everyone smoking?

People seem to be upset that the UI is in multiple locations on the screen. As if peoples eyes are glues forward and they have to rotate their head completely in a new direction to see the information. People are like 'The focus is everywhere!!!'. You mean like a lot of other games out there? Metal Gear Solid had a radar top right. Life/Armor top left. Weapons bottom right, and items bottom left. Obviously the UI was just to complicated for PS1 players to understand so the game never sold any copies and it's a barely known game now a days (sarcasm). The new UI is fine. Every match I've played I was able to find the information needed within a split second. I think what we have here is a bunch of people with thousands of hours really upset the game has changed, and they don't like change. Please -_-

The Survivor pictures for the new UI are pretty bland & out of place though. I keep seeing a mock UI example in this thread where the Survivor faces are just a simple white portrait (I don't care the location these portraits get placed on the screen mind you). Those simple white portraits are dope as hell and would fit the UI/game waaaaaay more. The color portraits used new just for some reason aesthetically don't work.

The animations are okay. I'm not going to say they're great but they work.

Survivor new movements are just amazing though!! (I've been playing mainly Survivor mind you!) Having people spin like drills because they spam keyboard & mouse movements has always been super cringe. I mean this community wants this game to become competitive right? Having absurd movement actions doesn't give DBD credibility at all. Trying to use a Killer power on a Survivor who is spazzing their movements out has made a lot of long time Killer vets stop playing specific Killers, or Killer at all. I'm speaking about people with thousands of hours practiced just dropping fun Killer because of how erratic Survivor movements have become. It was only a matter of time before BHVR had to reign in how extreme the movement have become. Don't worry Survivors! Remember, these type of movement abuses only really work on "Baby" Killers, right? So why care if they get nerfed? You know you play so many hours you usually play vs high ranked Killers anyways. Obviously such tactic which is only good vs "Babies" won't be missed at all, right? (sarcasm) Typical exploit abusing gamers with their backward logic *rolls eyes*

After the complete overreaction displayed about this update I can now understand why BHVR doesn't regularly ask for feedback from the community like they did with the new possible OoO change. The DBD community is just mental.

I'll keep this short n simple, I can barely see the hook countdown timer when anyone's on hook. Pls help to make it more visible? Thank you, much appreciated.

I'll start with what's good!

Seeing which survivor is which at a glance, great!

Killers seeing how many hooks they've gotten, very useful.

Survivors seeing the hook progress on each other, very handy!

The high definition icons for powers, items, and perks, beautiful!

Now with what I think could be improved.

The location of the survivor portraits is in a spot that is inconvenient. You're eyes are normally in the middle of your screen or the lower part of the screen, because you want to look at scratch marks, red stain, moving grass, etc.

The size of the important elements are smaller than the size of the unimportant ones. The survivor portraits are the most important piece of information on the HUD. Therefore, it should be the largest and most easy to see and interpret. Also, the icons for the power/items are very large for how unimportant the information they give is.

On the same vein, the scoring events are also very tiny and hard to notice. While most of the time its not necessary to view them, there are situations when they come quite in handy; such as a survivor with calm spirit runs into a clown bottle.

The gens are also at an inconvenient location for the same reason the survivor portraits are. It's out of the way hard to see out of your peripheral vision. Personally it's caused my to recoil in shock, after the last gen was completed when I thought there were 2 left!

In summary, the HUD is very nice and high definition, but the elements are a bit too scattered. Its very nice to see iteration and attempts at improvement. And I think with a bit of tweaking this could become a great HUD!

I haven't played DBD since the new patch released, and until the HUD layout and animations are fixed, I probably won't be back.

This is what we all want:

https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/JVP8JLGS9K9X/dookie-5b1-5d-5b1-5d.png

You guys probably don't get a lot of good feedback so.. I really love this new HUD it's a lot better compared to the old UI where all the information just gets crammed into the bottom corner and it looked really messy for both sides thanks so much.

Bring back the old HUD.

There was no need to update.

We don't need to see more info, as it breaks the balance.

It's as simple as no one really needed an UI change.

And even if it was, what is the reason to place info all over the place on the screen and making it harder to see.

Just place the new icons on the bottom left as it used to be for the sake of UX.

I would love to see the user made UI used or even revert the update but I guess that is way too much to ask.

About a year ago I would’ve confidently said “Dead By Daylight is my favourite game,” but since the deathslinger dlc the game has slowly but surely gotten progressively worse through the map changes (breakable walls, the new aesthetic, more needless dead zones in maps, etc) frustrating killer mechanics and other unnecessary changes. I know I don’t speak for every player when I say this but from someone who’s spent thousands of hours in the game it’s just sad to see the Frankenstein’s monster this game has become compared to its’ former self. The game really had charm.

NEW UI:

This new UI does an excellent job of being the absolute opposite of what a UI should be. Confusing, clustered, ugly, not to mention completely unnecessary. I saw someone saying the old UI was like a good car dashboard, clear and concise plus it was all in one area so that you could glance down and then go straight back to keeping your eyes on the ‘road’. However, the worst part isn’t the UI at all though, it’s the fact that almost the entire community gave you negative feedback on the UI and you released it anyway. As a console player myself I could tell from the initial reveal that the UI was a complete downgrade. The excuse that you released the UI is because you want console feedback is complete rubbish. You’re not being straight with the community and it’s turning players away. Having said all this if I had to choose between the new UI or the new animations I would pick the UI any day of the week over the abysmal new animations.

NEW ANIMATIONS

I updated the game with my fingers crossed hoping the new survivor animations and movement didn’t make it through the PTB and we could forget this ever happened. Oh boy was I wrong. The new ridiculous animations somehow made it through and it’s even more upsetting to see how bad survivor feels to play now. I just don’t even know what to say. Who asked for this?! There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old ones. The only decent looking animation is probably the uninjured sprint, but that’s only because it looks similar to the old sprint. Sure the old animations looked kinda goofy but they had charm, much like the old maps but I know for a fact we’re not getting them back so I’ll stop bringing them up. With the new ones they’re not goofy, they’re not realistic (which I’m guessing is what you’re going for(?)) it’s just some weird uncanny valley where I’m just wondering what on earth I’m looking at. In the matches nothing gets done because everyone is just standing still confused at what happened to their survivors and the UI. I don’t even need to talk about the new movement and hit boxes because they’ve made the game unplayable right now for survivors and I trust it’ll get fixed swiftly. The thing that makes dbd for me is the chase mechanics and now that, with the movement, it’s virtually non-existent, what’s the point on playing? It’s like you’re designing your game so that people sit on gens and play immersed, you might as well remove pallets and window vaults at this rate.

CLOWN AND MAPS (Not sure if you wanted feedback on this but here’s some anyway)

First of all, the clown change has made no impact whatsoever on his chase interaction the pallet is still camped and dropped early. Whether the survivor is sped up or slowed down the survivor has to drop the pallet and run to the next one. The same exact chase interaction is occurring just at two different speeds now instead of one. The only change really is that he now can speed himself up when hooking or walking to generators which I guess is fine just a lazy rework to be honest. It’s nice to see the Gideon meat plant now looking more like it’s from a saw movie although the map now plays even worse with more safe pallets and the introduction of breakable walls (honestly as killer and survivor cold wind farms are now the only enjoyable maps). I played a game earlier on the game where when I dropped into the bathroom above the basement there was no way for me to escape without the killer breaking a wall and so our entire team was trapped trying to save me (surely this wasn’t intentional right?!). Haven’t played the new Crotus prenn maps yet because to tell the truth I’ve given up playing dbd until these changes are resolved but I’ve seen clips of people walking through walls so enough said there.

CONCLUSION

It really is just depressing to see what dbd is becoming it truly was one of my favourite games. I’ve found myself watching through old noob3 vids getting my bit of dbd nostalgia (I wonder why he hasn’t been uploading since pyramid head! Maybe the charm of the game is gone for him too) BHVR your community is BEGGING you to revert these changes. I’ve never seen such stubbornness from a games developer after the community has come together like this please listen to your feedback it’s there for a reason!

Right now as the update has come out I am both extremely happy and grateful, but also incredible disappointed with the execution..

**The animations**. For a very long time I have wanted to see a change in the survivor animations, and now its finally happening! but its not living up to my expectations sadly.. What I had originally envisioned was each survivor having their own set of unique animations "walking/running/vaulting and etc. But that's not what we got and I'm alright with that partly, but the new animations are not yet up to the quality and standard expected by a 2021 game and don't fit on every character, the old ones didn't either. The current animations range from great! to garbage.

1. Lets start with the good! **First off the Crawling/Getting up "from the dying state" **, These animations are extremely smooth and blend well into crouching and other animations like crawling into hatch, that one is great. And the basic crouched and standing idle animations while injured look great but don't really blend well into walking, female idle looks good too! Falling down when injured looks stunning, it has actual weight and impact to the animation
2. Now lets go to the bad. **First off Running / walking while injured** "both genders". The animation has a very short and stiff run cycle. It needs to be more varied with more stumbling, it also needs to look FAR more desperate "but only in chase" like they are actually running in terror, outside of chase it could look more "painful" and like they are trying to recover and catch their breath. both versions are far to similar. Walking while injured looks god awful on both gender's, It is EXTREAMLY stiff and does not fit with either running nor idle positions. It also needs to be more varied, pretty much everything I said about running. Also repairing gens while injured needs an animation, like they are struggling to do anything.
3. Now this is my last thing regarding animation for now, its short and simple. the animation set needs to be tweaked to show more fear "when in the killers terror radius only" it can stay mostly the same when outside or far enough from the killer's terror radius . The best example to show what I mean is "Friday The 13'th The game's" "fear meter" the closer the killer get's the more visibly terrified the survivors get, or the more on edge they would get.

Now regarding the new Hud, I honestly don't mind it, everything just needs to be moved around to be more compact like the last one.

I have watched and played this game since launch so I'm glad to finally see change.

Thank all of you for listening to our feedback.

Guys, don't forget status effects like madness(Doctor), dream world(Freddy), and marked(Ghostface).

I sadly can't try this out yet because my Xbox died.

But it looks so good; I don't see the problem?

It's a change, and that's why no one likes it? Because it's something different?

They're also trying to get with the times and make their game look even better for next gen consoles and such.

In my opinion, there needs to be an option to have the old stuff on or new.

Because I really feel I'll love this update, and others will too; but plenty can't stand it for some reason or another - so they need a way to be catered too as well.

Hello, HUGE player doesn't like the new HUD at all, it takes up a lot of space on the screen, it's a very bad idea to have put it this way, at least add the heads of the characters at the bottom left on the old HUD, yeah why not,but it's in the middle of the screen like the generators at the top, it's just disturbing, I personally would like to find my old HUD which was very good and didn't take all the space, thanks for adding the possibility to choose between the old and the new one.

Bonjour, ENORMEMENT de joueur n'aime absolument pas le nouveau HUD moi également, il prend beaucoup de place a l'écran, c'est une très mauvaise idée de l'avoir mis ainsi, a la rigueur ajouter la tête des personnage en bas a gauche sur l'ancien HUD ouais pourquoi pas, mais la c'est au milieu de l'écran comme les générateur en haut, c'est juste dérangeant, j'aimerai personnellement retrouver mon ancien HUD qui était très bien et qui ne prenais pas toute la place, merci d'ajouter la possibilité de choisir entre l'ancien et le nouveau.

The new UI is fine the way it is, if you're too lazy to move your eyeballs a few millimeters maybe the problem isn't the game.....

I feel like this comment will get lost here. but here is what I want from the new UI

• Killer hook counter. just give us the same as the survivors, killer who wanna tunnel, will tunnel anyway
• If not. make it so it fills with a different color when someone doesn't get saved in time and spends another hook state on the hook
• let us control the sizes of the UI and things like skill checks separate.

I don't know why you quoted me in the first place, when I simply stated my opinion and reasons I gave you as well, some people just gave more in-depth reasons, so you probably should read them to understand why majority of here don't like them.

If you are too lazy read them all, then you don't care. I, on the other hand, read at least 5 first pages. I don't even need to read more of them since most of the reasons are the same, was it positive or negative feedback.

I definitely love the change for the injured status, such a good change compared to PTB version!!

Overall I like the new UI. But it’s too spread out, and especially for survivor info which is pretty much needed at all times it’s inconvenient in the top left corner. Maybe change that with item/power placement, because that is not needed all the time and you also get a feel for when your power is ready (and kn most cases a sound notification)

also I like the idea to use the achievement icons for character instead of the pictures now in use.

for animation, again I like them, but at times they feel way too stiff. Especially the idle animation. Replace it with the lobby standing animation, that way the chars also show more individual personality in game..

and hitboxes and/or laggy Hits definitely feel worse since the update. Or better expressed: more killer sided. I got some really scummy hits as killers

Here are some ways that I thought of that might help improve the animations.

for some background, my only gripe with the animations is the female walking animation and the injured running animation, as well as some small details about the standing animation. I genuinely liked everything else. Here are some ideas that I had that might help.

1. for the injured running animation, I feel like it looks stiff. not really the way someone would run if they had a serious injury. If I could add my 2 cents, I would say make the animation as if the character is running with everything they've got while at the same time they're movements are restricted due to pain and injury. A good example of this from the game Resident Evil 2: Remake. The running animation for the characters when they are in the "danger" state is a great example of this point.
2. As for the standing animation, I love it, and I don't think it should be removed. however, when in close proximity to a killer, it does feel a little bit unrealistic for the survivor to have that relaxed posture. Some really good advice would be to make the survivors get into a different "ready" stance when within the killer's terror radius. Another example of this from another game is The Last of Us Part 2. In this game, when there are enemies nearby, the characters get into a different stance. this adds realism to the game, and would remove some of the uncanny-ness.
3. As for the female walking animation, I wanted to point out that the default male walking animation feels good and intuitive, while the female walking animation feels stiff and a little unrealistic. I would suggest making the female walking animation more like the male one.

I hope this message eventually gets to the devs and gets past all the nasty comments.

Thanks for hearing me out.

I can’t pin it on the game with 100% certainty but I woke up with one of the worst migraines this morning. I tend to get them every so often anyway but after playing several matches last night I started to feel a migraine coming on. The last match I played I was DC’d saying no internet connection code 8000 something. My internet was fine btw. I went to bed only to wake up to one of the worst migraines I’ve ever had. Could be from the rigorous eyestrain, I don’t know.

I absolutely love the new graphic updates to maps. Very beautifully done. Sadly I think that is one of the only things I like about the new patch. I don’t like the new UI have to look all around the corners of the screen for info. Old one was much simpler, easy to follow. The tutorial needs to be redone for new players. It’s not good at all. What they did on mobile needs to be done on the other platforms. Mobiles tutorial is much more in depth than what we have. I think then some of the crap scattered on the screen can be eliminated or condensed.

New animations are meh. They all look unnatural. Most are laughable at best. The entire feel of playing survivor has changed, and not for the better. New movements seem slower, I know that’s probably not the case but it sure feels that way. Turning sharply it’s almost like your character does a pivot. It feels sluggish, not smooth like it use to. This by far was/is my biggest gripe with the new update. Survivor movement should be reverted back IMMEDIATELY. I specifically remember hearing that survivor movement would be kept the same but here we are. It almost feels eminent you are going to go down and a chase no matter what you do. It feels clunky. It’s definitely a step back imo. Personally it doesn’t even feel like DBD anymore. It feels like a cheap knockoff. You can’t bob and weave like before. Take for example getting caught in the open by a Huntress, use to you could bob and weave side to side and sometimes making her miss. Now you are taking that hatchet like it or not. It almost seems playing killer is MUCH easier now. The hit boxes are completely and utterly broken right now. I’m getting hit from 2-3 survivor lengths away. Pallets are vacuuming killers to whatever side you are on. If they have STBFL you are immediately going down after dropping that pallet, they get the initial hit when they shouldn’t have then get vacuumed to your side and immediately hit you again.

All this makes me so badly not want to play this game anymore. And frankly I’m not ok with that because DBD is my favorite game. I’ve put more hrs in this game than any other I’ve ever played, DS3 coming in a very close second. Please revert back the survivor movement. It’s really not good. I don’t particularly like the new UI but I can adjust to that over time I suppose but the movement I don’t think I will ever get use to that.

I don’t think as a community we want this game to change drastically. It’s a masterpiece. Sure there are bugs here and there and some perks could be better or changed and maps reworked but changing something so drastically as survivor movement is kinda a kick in the nuts to all the veteran players.

revert back to old ui