Why are the so many toxic players?

My hypothesis:

Ppl like you popped up increasingly and labeled everything they didn't like as toxic. This made everyone hypersensitive to these things you consider toxic and noticed these things far more. Ppl then started beating each other over the head whenever some1 played a way they didn't like creating a bad community environment. Little by little ppl either quit, stopped caring about how others judged their playstyle or purposefully played that "toxic" playstyle since it's so we'll known now. All this led other ppl to be "toxic" in these ways to blow off steam and it spread even further.

Oh trust me, I despise of killers who do it from the start & never have myself. But like I said, people are allowed to play how they want (unfortunately).

As you climb into red ranks & get red ranked killers, you'll definitely see less camping, tunneling & slugging at the start because that is practically throwing the game in high ranks. Instead, if the killer is losing control of the game, that's when they'll usually tunnel & slug (as do I).

My advice to you is to keep your cool & keep climbing those ranks because it eventually does get better.

Yes. Just get better at game and come to red rank. It'll be slug party :)

and survivors be like: "why are killers so sweaty" (meanwhile running dead hard, borrowed time, decisive strike, unbreakable)

Everyone's in a pretty bad mood because of 4.5.0, so blame it on that

I was playing as Hag on red ranks yesterday. Survivors most of the time were running into my face and die like lemmings for some reason. I didn't give a hatch to any of them. Constant 4k from one of the most annoying killers should probably get a lot of salty comments, right?

Not a single toxic comment was dropped for about 10 games. Someone even replied gg wp. My profile is open for any kind of commentary from any offended survivor. No comments were left.

Where do you guys find this toxicity all the time? Do we play same dead by daylight? I get toxic players sometimes, but they are soooo rare.

So answering to your question why there is so many toxic players, I only can answer that there is few toxic players and apparently they rarely play against me.

I don't believe in luck. There should be legit explanation, how do I get less toxic opponents.

I do play fair, but I can slug if i see another survivor nearby. I can tunnel person off hook if he only survivor I see, or even if he just closer to me. I can camp, if I suspect someone hiding nearby. I always return to hook if I failed to find someone else. I can hook last person even if he doesn't struggle. I never play like an ######### on purpose, but my gamestyle sometimes may look like toxic from survivor's point of view.

And in post game chat I always say gg. Most of the time they don't reply anything, or they may say gg back. Toxic survivors for me is just an exception.

The events always seem to bring out the worst players, so far as behavior goes.

As a survivor, I do nothing that would be considered toxic. No teabagging, vault/locker spamming, taunting, etc. The gates are open and everyone is either safe or dead, I leave. I find hatch, I don't sit on it to wait for the killer to show up, I leave. As a killer, I don't tunnel or camp, don't hit people on hook, fake giving a hatch only to slam it in someone's face, etc. I try to have fun, playing both roles.

I don't consider any build to be toxic -- run whatever perks you want to, and I'm fine. You were running Ruin/Undying/Tinkerer before the nerf as killer against me? That's not toxic, that's smart, and I have to play smarter than you to survive. You're running DS/UB/DH against me as a survivor? Same thing -- nothing toxic there, just using the best of what's available is the smart way to play.

The HUGE majority of players I go against, either side, are nice. I'm on console and have messages off, but I've still communicated with a number of people I've gone against, both as survivor and killer, and had some great interactions with them after matches.

But the small number of people who are truly toxic? The facecampers at 5 gens, the killers who smack you over and over on hook? The survivors who teabag me at every pallet or vault spam when the match is clearly over and they could just leave? Those few ruin the experience for the many. Is it a lack of maturity or manners or good sportsmanship? Probably all of the above. It's tempting to follow suit when you run into those types. I just played a Nurse round -- a killer I NEVER play -- for the Rift challenge. Actually downed a few people, could have killed someone if I tunneled, but I was using the round as much to practice as anything else. My reward was teabagging players at the exit, spamming their flashlight clicks like it was their first ever escape (these were Red Rank players, though that kind of stupidity can be found at every rank). You get enough matches like that, it makes you want to return it in kind. It can be hard to resist that temptation.

I wish there was actually a way to give proper props to people, and I wish that there was a way to use a feedback system like that to send people from both sides who are legtimately toxic into matches against each other so they could all spend miserable games over and over with their own kind, while the majority of "nice" players could enjoy the game without dealing with those types of people. Since that's not an option, the best thing to try to do is to tell yourself that someone who actually is "toxic" in game (and remembering not to assign that label to things you simply don't like, but to behavior that actually warrants it) shouldn't drag you down to their level. Remember to have fun first and foremost, even in the worst instances, and try to not let it bother you, no matter what happens. When you allow them to rob you of having fun, they "win".

A killer vs groups of survivors it's never going to be anything like grandma's warm apple pie is it?

That's not what I assumed at all. What I was annoyed at was the overuse of the word toxic to describe everything as a blanket term and then since toxic things are bad, it's used to reinforce the idea that it should be curbed. Add in the high horse preachyiness and the whole I'm the judge on toxicity. So cue the passive aggressiveness.

Honestly I was more peeved that you called survivors dcing toxic. I hate ppl dcing or killing themselves on hook but calling them toxic isn't the right word for it.

I still stand by the hypothesis though. Very few people actually cared about a lot of these things when dbd first came out. Hypersensitivity to all these things is bad for the game. Oh wait did you think I was calling you a baby cuz the word hypersensitivity? No I mean that ppl are too aware of these things and quick to jump on it. I think hypersensitivity sums it up well.

As for your new question. The answer is intention. If your intent is to put some1 down by doing something or specifically win by forcing some1 to DC, then it's toxic. Most of the time you cannot tell the intention of why some1 did something unless they actively say something in end game chat. Tunneling or camping when you don't necessarily need to isn't toxic to me. Tunneling or camping some1 specifically to depip them or make sure they aren't going to have a good time? That is toxic.

I'm also not saying that something is good or bad to do. I'm just saying that calling it toxic and saying since it's toxic we need to fix it, is wrong.