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Hex:Undying now curses survivors who walk past dull totems.
This is an unlisted change as I just checked the patch notes and it doesn't mention this at all.
Clip from when I saw it:
https://clips.twitch.tv/WiseKawaiiYamCoolStoryBro-sgtY-Aef1gJCkW4A
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Devs are finding as many ways as they can to ruin undying.
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this is.... just too much, i wont even say a thing because i will regret saying what im thinking because its not nice.
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Hey that is amazing. I can combo that with Soul Guard.
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Lol build-in free perk to survivor
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This isn't an unlisted. It was said when they announced the change.
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It is like that because you are revealed when near a dull totem because of undying.
And because whenever a hex totem does something to you the handholding information gets displayed on your hud. It is to make sure complete newbies know what's up, limiting the need for the game knowledge to have any impact.
It was the same with old lullaby, ruin, etc.
It works as intended, even though it is cheap and overdone.
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Haha that's funny because they ruined "Ruin/Undying"
Ok I'll go....
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Hex Undying: Once per survivor, reveal that a dull totem is nearby to that survivor.
They just need to remove the free info survivors get from all hexes please. If you want to show them "exposed" fine but you don't need to specify its from this or that perk, they should figure that out on their own. Things like Lullaby and Undying don't need to announce their presence.
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Hex: Undying is dying.... First Ruin was ruined. What next? Devour is Devoured?
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Out of interest, what is the problem if a Dull Totem gets revealed to a Survivor? Obviously, if you run NOED, this would be a problem, but someone who runs NOED on top of Undying+another Hex (aka lots of Perks that can be disabled) has other problems already.
But if Survivors see a Dull Totem or get notified by it, they might cleanse it, so they will spend less time on a Gen.
And that you know that Undying is active is not really relevant IMO, since there is no difference between Undying + a Hex and two Hexes, except that Undying will be cleansed first 100% of the time.
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Imo killer perks shouldn't be giving survivors free info such as "hey there's a totem here and also just so you know your aura is revealed and the killer most likely has 2 hexes so get to looking."
Its just worsens the already existing "hexes don't last" problem. Now the survivors know there's a hex (most likely 2) just for existing around a dull totem.
Why tho?
Also if someone wants to run those 3 hexes they should be able to without the build countering itself when hexes are already not in a great spot.
Undying counters itself as well by just letting them cleanse the dull totems that are supposed to give the killer aura reading by notifying them its there and to be on the lookout going forward for other dulls.
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hilarious
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When they nerf something they make sure it is dead so they don't need to revisit it.... if it is a killer thing. survivors get multiple revision / side grades
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The thing is - the most common used Hex is still Ruin. I can figure out that the Killer has Ruin in a few seconds. And if the first Totem is cleansed, I know that Ruin is still in play. And at this point, it does not matter if the Killer had Undying or any other Hex-Perk. The only thing that is different is that for the Killer, it is a 0% Chance that Ruin gets cleansed first instead of 50%.
But for the Survivors, it does not really change anything. And personally, I dont care that much about the Aura Reading of Undying, it just exists to give the Perk an effect when using only Undying.
When it comes to Notifactions tho, I could totally go with Undying not revealing itself, would be fine by me. Lullaby however (what you also mentioned) should always be revealed. For experienced Survivors, it does not matter, they will know once 1 Token is on Lullaby, that Lullaby is in play. But inexperienced Survivors need to know why their Skill Checks get more difficult and more important, they need the Hex-Notification to know what to do about it.
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I don't know why you keep bringing up undyings new transfer mechanics or ruin, no ones talking about those in anything relevant to this conversation.
Inexperienced survivors need to learn the game, not have their hand held. I disagree with Lullaby needing a notification, you should notice your skill checks getting shorter and eventually quiet and put 2 and 2 together, not have the game do it for you. That's learning the game and part of being inexperienced.
Why did this happen? -checks end screen- oh that perk is why, next time I'll know and cleanse it. They don't need to be hand held. Or just research the perks on your own.
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Well, I hope I never see a post from you about inexperienced Killers then, if you really think that players who are new to the game should not get assistance.
But whatever, I am fine to disagree.
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I'm ok with this.
I think that iis normal a survivor know when he is being affected by a hex.
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There's a difference between assistance and hand holding, new players should have the tools to reasonably learn, they don't need the game to figure stuff out for them to this degree. Both sides should be held to that standard imo. You have the end screen to help you with perks as well as just loading into a custom games to look at every single perk. The game shouldn't tell you mid match what perk is in play just for free.
I mean if you want to put an indicator over survivors to let the killer specifically know they have UB, Spine Chill, Breakout, BT or something (random picks fyi) and when its gone, we can go that way too, as long as its equal (although I'd rather not). Right now its not equal. Killers have to figure out or assume many more perks or get told when it doesn't matter anymore (like DS/Head-on for example) and survivors are just told "yeah they have Lullaby btw, go break it before it gets any good use" or "I know you got exposed, but here's exactly why and how long it'll last". Its very uneven.
I'd rather both have to figure it out. Just to be extra clear I'd rather not do what was outlined in the second paragraph written here, but if its equal on both sides I'd probably be ok with it even if its not what I'd prefer. But yeah, I'm fine to disagree as well.
Post edited by MrPenguin on2 -
*Yawn* DS and Object are finally getting nerfed soon, quit being whiny Killers.
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It is an unlisted change, because before Undying didn't inflict the curse icon onto survivors for it's aura reading before the mid-chapter patch. It was never mentioned in the January Dev Blog nor is it on the patch notes.
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Well Mettle of Man got killed off pretty hard tbh
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It is unlisted he is talking about them being alerted they are getting affected by a hex however that shouldn't apply here since it is aura reading, you don't tell survivors you are using bbq just because they got affected by it.
Like there is no reason for it to do that for a hex to show up as an indicator it has to have an effect you can find out yourself ALL hexs go by that rule.
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