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Are people surprised about the devs making unnecessary changes after what was done to Hillbilly?

Easily the most unneccesary change ever done to a killer, or should i say necessary to make sure people stop playing him and go buy some DLCs.

All they had to do was nerf Carburettor Tuning Guide and change the charge time add-ons so that they do not stack; that was all.

Now all you have is a hard to play killers that's a jack of all trades master of none with a boring ass cooldown mechanic and the worst add-ons in the entire roster.

NOBODY plays Billy anymore expect people who just picked up the game and 5k hour players who occasionally play him.

Devs, i guess he will never get changed again since the overheat mechanic, the stupid roar and his trash new add-ons surely took months of hard work to make, right?

Comments

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,534

    While I agree he needed some kind of cooldown I think they went the wrong way about it. The least they could do imo is to revert the nerf after the live build which made the heat dissipate slower

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    If Billy players did what you're describing (spamming the chainsaw) they were bad and wouldn't even come close to downing you with it. The limit isn't even a big deal in a chase unless you have double engravings, so I don't know why you think he's suddenly not "unbearable" now, he's still the same in a chase.

  • reeves7
    reeves7 Member Posts: 306

    they need to make billy at least like the first nerf so he can be enjoyable,now his chainsaw overheat too quick and it takes ages for the chainsaw to cooldown. They nerfed him 2 times it’s unbelievable,why destroy a player that customers PAID by buying the game to play and enjoy?

  • PeaceNGrease
    PeaceNGrease Member Posts: 673

    Oh, well you know, that didn't have any effect on survivor players, so it wasn't a big enough issue and was ignored.


    But now that Survivors had their animation Jank reduced and most people started bandwagon hating the new UI before it came out, they could easily lobby their complaint with the overall patch and get some traction for reverting THEIR changes.


    Pretty convenient. And just wait until DS and OoO are changed (which I'm sure, along with the key changes, are on hold now because we have to address this "awful" UI)

  • Zozzy
    Zozzy Member Posts: 4,759
    edited February 2021

    his animations make him annoying/frustrating to play because you physically have to fight his camera sway after using the chainsaw or you look at the sky.

    his field of view has been severely nerfed by pushing the camera forward more then it was. you use to be able to see the mallet head and handle while walking. now you can only see the top of the mallet. this made a large blindspot in front of him.

    they have a hard 90 degree cap on the chainsaw when you start sprinting and it has a cap on how sharp the turn is. I use to be able to 360 on the top of the hill before falling into the normal sprint.

    all his good addons are gone and nothing alters charge times or stun times or anything

    the new addons got nerfed after ptb and the only good one was made really really rare to get.

    he now screams at the survivors to let them know he has started the saw sprint (gota hand hold the rank 20's and make it brain dead for veterans am i right?) This becomes obnoxious to listen to all the time and ruins any fun for the killer player (survivor is all that matters correct?)

    the animations and head bobbing are sickening

    I never see him any more, i wonder why?

    • they have added invisible anti billy walls on almost every ramp or high point in the game
    • they have added over head obstacles that only billy can run into with his saw for no reason.
  • PeaceNGrease
    PeaceNGrease Member Posts: 673

    Nah man, that is absolutely incorrect. I played billy almost exclusively for the first year I played this game back in 07-08, and you absolutely could not win that way. Trying to spam saw, especially without the fast saw add on combo, was basically like giving a survivor a mini DS everytime you missed.


    All he "needed" was the quick saw combo removed, nothing more. Especially not that dumbass roar that makes it so his "new, fine" stealth build is pointless. I mean tbf, it was a stupid concept to try and give a one shot killer stealth because of course you would have to compromise it somehow.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,357

    Thats the bigger issue with Hillbilly IMO. The Overheat does do next to nothing, Hillbilly did and does not need Add Ons to begin with. But those animations... They got better, but before the rework, his animations were so horrible, I stopped playing him at this point.

  • Dabihwow
    Dabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    I feel like the only reason why they added Hillbilly changes is that they wanted a stealthier killer that could use his power to insta down. SO we agree ONI was very close in similarity with Billy before Nerf, that's probably why, they were just way too similar for their liking I guess. But I believe his addons are absolute Dogshit now then they were before

  • AChaoticKiller
    AChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104

    If we are talking about unneeded changes who is the complete idiot that decided Hex: Undying needed to curse survivors who walk near dull totems.

  • MongolPSR
    MongolPSR Member Posts: 1,032

    I'm not surprised. Bhvr only listens to feedback enough to know who they want to ban in the YouTube community for providing valid criticism.

  • Dabihwow
    Dabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    I heard some veteran devs believed Billys nerf was unnecessary, they believe he needed a nerf, but not this big of a nerf.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,913

    Well, you know what now that I think about it yeah, exactly like Nurse's "add-on" rework.

    Not like I (and many other people) were confused at to why they were messing with her basekit.

  • d_rahu_d
    d_rahu_d Member Posts: 17

    Some experts leave billy because of the Overheat system. Some beginners leave billy because of the Addon adjustment.

    Couldn't you have made a better adjustment ? I miss Billy😥

  • reeves7
    reeves7 Member Posts: 306

    If they give billy his 1st nerf like state and not this crap we have now,il forget them for all the bugs

  • I agree with this. There were 2 add ons you could take that both affected cooldown and charge time. You just kept swinging with them, the chainsaw acted like an m1 so it didnt matter if you miss

    also the cooldown kind of helps against them camping billys that keep rushing between the hook and a gen, camping from across the map.

    Billy had some issues. The cooldown barely affects him to be honest unless you’re using the add ons that increase it.