UPDATED UI W.I.P.

Such an improvement! I appreciate the response to feedback. I agree with everyone else, would love to see horizontal portraits (or at least a reason why vertical was chosen maybe?), adept pictures (easier to see changes like colored slashes for injured, etc. and fits aesthetic more), colorblind-friendly status indicators, and minimizing of killer power/addons. Hook counter does seem a bit unimportant for its size as well.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned, when a survivor is on a hook, the struggle progress bar no longer appears in the middle of the screen for them. I wish this would be returned to how it was since it was easy to be looking around while keeping that bar in the corner of your eye (also easier to estimate 50%)

Once again, thanks for working with the community on this one and listening to feedback

It look good, the hook count and generator count seem a bit off in my opinion.

I have a opinionated proposal change if you guys like it and if anyone does too, let me know your thoughts also. My other suggestion it to put the hook count on the right side of the generator count in my proposal change, if that fits the idea of spacing. Thanks.

No need for addons to be so big but otherwise great!

Survivor info needs to be Horizontal, and at the left bottom, along with the gen and hook count.

The perks, and item info, should both be on the right side, like they used to be.

Also... Please shrink the pictures. They are Too big and distracting.

Thank you

So in a recent tweet, they've claimed they are making these huge compromises.

"A quick list of the most notable changes:

• Lowered Survivor statuses

• Lowered hook counter

• Moved objectives from top to bottom left

• Removed text from objectives

• Skill checks now have their own UI scaling option"

It is just so painful that they are passing this central left positioning off as "bottom left". Not only has it been made clear that we will not play like this, but what does this half measure crap do? If they are so dead set on leaving more space for the names and icons, why not just do a 2x2 grid? there is so much empty space at the bottom not being used. They won't even tell us why they want this vertical layout so badly.

If this was about doing what the community wanted they wouldnt have waited for review bombs and terribly low number of active users. This is damage control, and the responses we've been seeing via socials just doesn't make me feel like our opinions are valued.

I've loved this game since release, I have thousands of hours and have recommended this game to dozens of people who also got super into it. Hell I've probably gifted six copies to friends over the years. This game has lasted so long for a reason, I don't want to sit here and complain about every detail, I just want to see them take their time, consult the community, and act like they care about the people that made this indie company a huge name. I don't feel like thats asking for a lot, but when they can't even tell us WHY they are doing these things and fighting us at every turn, then its hard to have faith in them

Why does the killer need a hook counter instead of the “hook state pips” that survivors see?

I think it’s good to know at a glance if the survivor you downed is on death hook. Sometimes I wanna show mercy and give them more playtime, but twin potatoes can lead to me prematurely sacrificing someone.

Empty space needed for scaling, isn't it?. This stuff can be customised.

I'm going to keep banging this drum.

if thats why thats a really poor reason to begin with, but the least they could do is convey that

one of the issues, the other being how it obscures the screen and is generally distracting.

Can we please just have a in Game HUD customization option. I love the original HUD that you sent out on the original patch. It's less cluttered and less painful on the eyes. I'm used to this HUD already due to other games using the similar styled HUD so please scrap this:

And just allow them to customize the HUD in game so I can play without my eyes puking by everything just being cluttered.

Please Devs just add: **Customize HUD** in game option and we will all be fine.

This is exactly what is needed. Absolutely perfect!

I do like this iteration but I have a few bits of criticism still. However I'll need to see some things in motion to fully comment.

• Perks and ability positioning is fine.
• Power at bottom left is fine.

Regarding the survivor portraits, names, hook counter and generator count.

• For the generator when it was moved to the top center the generator icon would move when the hatch appeared. For me personally I found this visually distracting. I would prefer that when the hatch appears it doesn't move the generator icon. Pretty much how it was prior.
• The generator icon and number could be scaled up about 10% of what it is now so the generator icon is about the size of one of the addon icons.
• Regarding the survivor portraits - I still strongly feel that either icons should show cosmetics or if they're default outfits should be a bit more transparent or greyscale. I feel as they are now adds too much noise for when a survivor is injured or has a debuff making the status hard to read. I feel the font size of the names could be slightly larger. Let's say the font size is currently 12 as an example. It could be rolled up to a 14.
• My personal bias on this is the names and text for objectives could be hidden and at the press of a button they could appear either through a hold or toggle. I'm pretty sure the TAB (Keyboard) / Back (Xbox) / Select (Playstation) buttons are unused so it could be used for UI toggles.

Upsides of this UI is it's much easier to glance at and everything feels more natural. Aside from rescaling some things slightly I could see myself easily loading into a game and having no issue with this iteration. If I need to stare at something I either look at the bottom left or right and that's it.

Overall I know it seems like there's now little change from the original but it looks like a nice touchup and overall looks good so far. I look forward to seeing the final product.

Edit - One additional thing

Personally regarding the backdrop of the survivor icons. Something about them seems to bother me but admittedly I can't put it into words it just feels like the backdrop for the icons seems to not match the rest of the UI. Maybe it's taking up too much space but I'm admittedly not sure what it is. Just something about it irks me looking at it long enough but suppose this part can be disregarded since I can't bring it into words what the issue even is.

Edit 2 - Here's a gif of scaling changes I would make

Gifs aren't allowed hang on

Changes I made to UI

• I scaled down the survivor portraits because all that matters is the status of the survivor nothing else. Font size left the same.
• I scaled down the hook counter for killer because ultimately it is just to see how many hooks you need for max hooks. The circle was scaled down smaller since all you're looking at is lit bars that are clear to tell based on how full the circle is.
• The generator icon was scaled up. The font size for the number of generators left was kept the same.

I don't know if anyone has already pointed this out but they could be forcing the vertical survivor pictures because there are a decent amount of shooters, Borderlands for example, and single player games, where the companion icons are vertical and in the top left hand corner.

They could have thought it would be a popular move and bring in more people or something stupid like that. However those games are designed for a hud like that. This game isn't as the backlash shows.

Seems a lot of the changes they making is geared towards bringing in new people, not keeping the player base they already have

Thought I might throw that out there

As someone who prefers the old HUD this is a step in the right direction one of the major reasons I didn't like the judge that much was because you had to look far away from the skill check meter to see how fellow survivors were doing via the portraits

Although I think the survivor portraits should go one of two ways make them adaptive where it shows the cosmetics that the survivors are using in that match

Or use a white head icon of the survivors currently used for that match to fit the art style more

Because the way it's just default survivors kinda makes it bland and breaks the art style which was one of the reasons that made the old ui loved

Tldr it's a step in the right direction but the portraits still need a bit of work

I think the forum ate my comment when posts were merged because I don't see it now. So if this ends up being a duplicate my bad.

I do like the changes they are making so far and there's definitely more to do. It looks like they are listening to feed back and I appreciate they are showing us the WIP to give further feedback.

I do like that the information has been moved closer to one area. This is definitely going to help with the issue of eyes being pulled involuntarily in multiple directions causing headaches.

I don't understand why they are keeping player information vertical, I think it is more efficient being horizontal and will take up less room.

If going to keep vertical have an option to remove the gamertags. Personally I find them unnecessary, only time I would need them is for reporting which I can go to menu mid game and grab the name then. Removing the gamertags would free up more space in FOV.

Either change the player icons to Adept icons (preferred) or change them to grey scale. Currently the bright colors of the icons can cause the eyes to involuntary try to focus to the side and that can end up causing headaches. While it won't be as bad as the information all over the screen it being vertical will cause more of the distraction than if it was more horizontal with the rest of the information. Making them grey will also help to make status like dreamworld, reverse bear trap, sickness, etc. be more visible.

Move the player icons and other HUD pieces on left side closer to the edge. That space between edge and information feels bigger that it is due to how much information is going up the side from player information being vertical, this makes it feel more intrusive like it's blocking more of the FOV.

While this is just the WIP for the killer HUD I will be interested to see with the survivor HUD these changes: 1. The information bar for time survivor is on hook as well as when being healed from down state or carried. As has been pointed out in other feedback posts it is difficult to see how long a survivor has on a hook, many entering into second state or dying during struggle. Also the flashing when being healed or carried is gone and that was a HUGE help for solo q that is now gone. 2. The status for items. The bar that shows how much of an item is left is very bright when it is depleted that it looks like it is full. Make the bar transparent when empty would be helpful.

*Edit to add: the power/addons don't need to be that big. Same with survivor item/addons. The power/items can be smaller while putting survivor information horizontal at bottom and larger since those are more important information than the power/item.

Much better than the new one, still worse than the original.

What is the best move... honestly... is a choice between vertical or horizontal layout. I say that because BHVR seems so headstrong about the vertical change, but most of us find it bad. Plus, nothing on the UI should affect the field of view for the sides. Adept portraits are WAY better, different skins and the overall aesthetic is weird with portraits.