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Worst Community in a game ever!

Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

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  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.
    I have seen you post before. You're just realizing that we're all uniquely and seriously flawed?
  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Ok. Now say that like anybody cares, or doesn't know that already.

    ^ My point exactly
  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    Peasant said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.
    I have seen you post before. You're just realizing that we're all uniquely and seriously flawed?
    Dude I love this game, but the community here is out right disgusting.
  • SlothGirly
    SlothGirly Member Posts: 1,146

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    AlphaJackson said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Ok. Now say that like anybody cares, or doesn't know that already.

    ^ My point exactly

    If You really think the game is that toxic, just stop playing, it's that simple. Or get over yourself amd just accept that there are people who are and aren't toxic.

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    AlphaJackson said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Ok. Now say that like anybody cares, or doesn't know that already.

    ^ My point exactly

    If You really think the game is that toxic, just stop playing, it's that simple. Or get over yourself amd just accept that there are people who are and aren't toxic.

    That right there, "Just stop playing." another point.
  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Peasant said:


    OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    I have seen you post before. You're just realizing that we're all uniquely and seriously flawed?

    Dude I love this game, but the community here is out right disgusting.

    what did you expect, this is an asymmetrical game, there are always two different opinions and one side wont like the other sides opinions

  • FinLadd
    FinLadd Member Posts: 190
    If survivors and killers unite survivors need to accept that killer should be op for sure or you have A unbalanced game.
  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @alivebydeadight said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Peasant said:


    OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    I have seen you post before. You're just realizing that we're all uniquely and seriously flawed?

    Dude I love this game, but the community here is out right disgusting.

    what did you expect, this is an asymmetrical game, there are always two different opinions and one side wont like the other sides opinions

    at least were not the overwatch forums ;)

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    edited October 2018
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    Yeah, I wish it wasn’t like this but that’s just how it is with games with opposing sides.
  • JanTheMan
    JanTheMan Member Posts: 495
    edited October 2018
    So...? Doesn't make the game unfun to me.
  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @JanTheMan said:
    So...? Doesn't make the game unfun to me.

    The community doesnt affect how you play the game, like you said so this guy is confusing me

  • AntiJelly
    AntiJelly Member Posts: 1,155

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Well that's a little negative. I think you're looking in the wrong spots.

  • Milkymalk
    Milkymalk Member Posts: 221

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Oh boy oh boy, you obviously never played any League of Legends. There is more salt in the aftergame chat there than in the Dead Sea.

  • MyNamePete
    MyNamePete Member Posts: 1,053

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    FNaF community

  • BigBubs
    BigBubs Member Posts: 1,131

    @FinLadd said:
    If survivors and killers unite survivors need to accept that killer should be op for sure or you have A unbalanced game.

    Riiiight, ofc. Go and demand what YOU want.
    That's exactly what the OP is talking about , people like this creature are the problem.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    We love you too 
  • mcNuggets
    mcNuggets Member Posts: 767

    @Oblitiry said:
    Go to any other game forum that involves winning or losing. There's people saying the same thing about their communities. 

    spoilers You're all wrong.

    In a game where one side totally domiantes the power role, yeah, what is else to do?

  • PatchNoir
    PatchNoir Member Posts: 600

    Salty ? i think i see this more on survivors than killers, but i prefer to think that it is matematic causes, and i think we are not the worst but we have the most quantity of people that do not want a balanced game~~

  • Just_Meh
    Just_Meh Member Posts: 96
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.
    Well killers being salty is usually because we are provoked. Survivors being salty is cause they cry like babies. 
  • Just_Meh
    Just_Meh Member Posts: 96
    Milkymalk said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Oh boy oh boy, you obviously never played any League of Legends. There is more salt in the aftergame chat there than in the Dead Sea.

    ^^^ Listen to this man right here he's seen some shiiit. 
  • SlothGirly
    SlothGirly Member Posts: 1,146

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    AlphaJackson said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    AlphaJackson said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.
    
    
    
    Ok. Now say that like anybody cares, or doesn't know that already.
    

    ^ My point exactly

    If You really think the game is that toxic, just stop playing, it's that simple. Or get over yourself amd just accept that there are people who are and aren't toxic.

    That right there, "Just stop playing." another point.

    WDYM another point, I'm stating the obvious, if the community is such a big problem then why stick around? Also, how does the community on a verbal level affect a game that has no communication outside of third party apps and the post game chat. I am just trying to say, that you can get over it, or go elsewhere.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    Overwatch and undertale will always be the worst

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    Peasant said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.
    I have seen you post before. You're just realizing that we're all uniquely and seriously flawed?
    Dude I love this game, but the community here is out right disgusting.
    Welcome to the internet, a place where anybody can say anything and for this reason people are mostly #########,me included. You might just fell in this hole called internet so I'm gonna give you some tips:

    -trolls exist, they like to upset others, ignore them
    - every community is toxic for the very nature of human kind, like on school but worse thanks to anonymity
    - ignore people or get ready to been mocked insulted and so on if you wanna share anything

    Hope you enjoy your staying on the fabulous world of Internet!

    If you think to be really brave you can even visit 4chan or some weird site on the deep web, be careful tho, the rules are the same even there but the contents are trollmade or disturbing, go there at your own risk, HAVE FUN!!1OnE!10!1!
  • Plippy
    Plippy Member Posts: 187

    I would just like to point out that while the forums are home to be moaning about every single possible thing they can moan about a bit too much...but the community being the worst ever? HAHA! No...no it's not.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296
    edited October 2018

    The DBD player base has lots of biased Killer and biased Survivor Mains.

    Killer and surivor mains fight it out in a never ending war of words, if someone posts regarding how toxic one side is you first see a flurry of those agreeing with it, the other side then comes in and flips the argument around and stating well X is toxic, when it comes to toxic play each side thinks they can use any strat possible as its part of the game, its just the ones the other side use that are of course toxic even if they also are mechanics, then you have the ones who bring something completely irrelevant into the fold which was changed a long time ago to try and bait others.

    If something happens they dont like in game then it cant possibly be fair! they will come to the forum saying how stupid and OP it is, how changes must be made demanding they do fix it NOW!

    Yes the community is terrible, there are so many players who simply feel enititled for the game to be build how they think it should be and wont accept it for what it is all the while continuing to play it, they cant see that changes are happening and while some seem good and some seem bad thats the challenge of trying to balance an ever evolving multiplayer game, it wont always be how you want it to and you simply need to adapt and stop blaming other players in the match, its game, nothing in yourclife changes if you kill, live or die, my advice is to so stop taking it so seriously.

  • laKUKA
    laKUKA Member Posts: 406

    Yea! BUT t is a game that to win, you need to kill. I think this will never be a candy crush community.

  • Slayer
    Slayer Member Posts: 1,148
    edited October 2018

    I guess thats because most dont like assymetrical horror games most frustrated cause they dont get to play much( long ) in survivor role

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    I think a big part of the problem here is just the false advertising. There are some folks who likely bought Dead by Daylight just to main killers as part of a murder fetish or something similar. Having played my fair share of killer, I can understand why they might be upset.

    It doesn't help that too few people have taken the time to play and understand both sides. 

    Only through understanding will we have a less toxic community.
  • Jed
    Jed Member Posts: 254

    @Peasant said:
    I think a big part of the problem here is just the false advertising. There are some folks who likely bought Dead by Daylight just to main killers as part of a murder fetish or something similar. Having played my fair share of killer, I can understand why they might be upset.

    It doesn't help that too few people have taken the time to play and understand both sides. 

    Only through understanding will we have a less toxic community.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    @Jed said:

    @Peasant said:
    I think a big part of the problem here is just the false advertising. There are some folks who likely bought Dead by Daylight just to main killers as part of a murder fetish or something similar. Having played my fair share of killer, I can understand why they might be upset.

    It doesn't help that too few people have taken the time to play and understand both sides. 

    Only through understanding will we have a less toxic community.

    Purging the heretics is another way to make progress too. It just requires some more effort and eventually, you have to ask yourself "Have I become what I sought to destroy?". Still definitely a viable option though.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    Any game that has an online community and an open forum will become toxic to some extent. If I were to try and grab at specific reasons this game has become so toxic here is the list I would created. Let me say this once more these are my own personal opinions and not definitive reasons as to why we see so much toxicity with the DBD community. This list is in no particular order.

    1: No clear division between PC players and console players causes complaint/balance misunderstanding with some posts. I feel some people will see someone complain that Killer X is overpowered and will throw a reply in protest before they established what platform or circumstance the Original poster is referring. Problems that plague PC may not affect console and vise versa.

    2: Huge lack of moderation on all Platforms (PC is starting to get some moderation). Since people have been able to play this game however they like with little to no consequences. (streamers included since they feed viewers with negativity/bad behavior. I don't include every streamer of course) This allows people to ruin the game for everyone else and not be punished creating a huge feeling of frustration towards the game and developers.

    3: Lack of proper testing before a patch or update goes live. Now I understand this isn't always easy as fewer players are participating in the "PTB" and it seems no trial testing is done for console (again I understand Sony/Microsoft don't help this issue with licensing). This often leads to new additions over-performing or under-performing during their launch alongside many game mechanics breaking as a result. In some cases these are fixed quickly while others are kept in the game for far too long. It becomes incredibly frustrating because this isn't a rare instance but instead happens almost every patch/update we get.

    4: Unique title with few decent competitors corals players to one game alone. What I mean by this is that if you start to experience a "burn out" with DBD you don't really have another game that does what DBD does in a decent way with a large enough community. This is of course no ones fault but people will oddly enough continue to play DBD even when they are no longer having fun, leading to a shorter fuse to their frustration and negative outbursts.

    5: People simply love to complain when they can remain anonymous. Since people rarely have to face any sort of consequence while talking online under the guise of a username many will simply lash out rather than speak with a calm head. Some people simply like to push the buttons of others because "they can" (again without consequence). Honestly there is very little to be done here save continued moderation of these players on the forums.

    6: DBD has no clear direction. This is what honestly confused me the most when I started playing. DBD has only one mode to play and that is "ranked" yet the rank in this game doesn't really mean much. Sure you can argue it helps sort out the "matchmaking" in this game but even then it is easily broken by short "seasons" and SWF. If DBD wants to use a ranking system I feel they either need to take proper steps to fix the matchmaking so as to not become easily abused or add a "casual" mode where rank isn't implemented. I also find it odd that you would force people to see this rank and the "pip" performance after each match making it seem like a good thing to rank up and a bad one to rank down. I still feel I'm not doing very well with explaining this one because I cannot say DBD is trying to act competitive yet they do implement some elements of a competitive game. Even if you are a player who just plays casually it is still a bad feeling to see that "pip/emblem" system go down after a match and makes you feel more compelled to focus on ranking up. The problem with that becomes the more pressure you feel placed on you to perform well creates frustration and negativity should you perform poorly. This again results in players disconnecting or having outburst.

    I cannot claim to have any answers to fix these problem nor can I claim that I have not been negative in some aspect myself. I am simply grasping for what reasons I have observed and writing in response to this post.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    You should have seen the 2000 game Sacrifice in its golden days. Best game ever created, but the trash talk there made this community look like a Mormon Bible study group.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    If the toxicity of the community is ruining the game for you, it's time to start not caring about others.

  • FinLadd
    FinLadd Member Posts: 190
    BigBubs said:

    @FinLadd said:
    If survivors and killers unite survivors need to accept that killer should be op for sure or you have A unbalanced game.

    Riiiight, ofc. Go and demand what YOU want.
    That's exactly what the OP is talking about , people like this creature are the problem.

    You can live In that bubble you are in as long as you want but trust me you will see how many actually agree with me. Have A good day... bruh
  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @George_Soros said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    You should have seen the 2000 game Sacrifice in its golden days. Best game ever created, but the trash talk there made this community look like a Mormon Bible study group.

    Back in my day if you wanted to start a flam war you would simply yell Bi> @FinLadd said:

    BigBubs said:

    @FinLadd said:

    If survivors and killers unite survivors need to accept that killer should be op for sure or you have A unbalanced game.

    Riiiight, ofc. Go and demand what YOU want.

    That's exactly what the OP is talking about , people like this creature are the problem.

    You can live In that bubble you are in as long as you want but trust me you will see how many actually agree with me. Have A good day... bruh

    Here is the problem with DBD and its community:

    Dead By Daylight doesn't know what direction it wants to go/what sort of game it wants to be. Sure its listed as horror but what type? You can easily debate several "horror" elements with this game.

    For example let me take two games that fall under the "Battle Royal" category that have clear game direction. Cod 4 Blackout is a Battle Royal that is meant to be more realistic (video game realistic) and competitive.
    Then we have a game like Totally Accurate Battlegrounds that is also a Battle Royal game but is clearly meant to be more casual and fun.
    If a gun in Blackout were to be considered way too "overpowered" it would be expected that this gun is re-balanced to maintain that competitive feel, yet if a gun was considered "overpowered" in Totally Accurate Battlegrounds it would be widely accepted as a fun gun that people may or may not want to see changed because the game is simply casual fun and not competitive by nature.

    Dead By Daylight doesn't have a clear direction with this community. Does it want to be a game where the survivors have to work together to overcome a truly powerful Killer or does it want to be a more casual game of what is essentially "tag". They seem to be confused themselves with how they try to balance the game and that is why so many people are in disagreement about what they want from DBD.

  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    This ######### is toxic as toxic can be. You have to be really shortsighted and short of wits to claim otherwise, or maybe a very new player. Wishing cancer/######### was a formal greeting from survivor players both on the Original forums and the endgame screen just about a year ago, probably since the begining. Now, mostly only the forums are toxic from what I can tell. But make no mistake, this place is trash and I mean that in a disposable waste of space sense.

    Really, what good thing has come of these forums since they started? As much as the devs can be straight up dumb sometimes, I kind of feel bad that they have to constantly deal with this disgusting thing. Like there must be no quicker way to become disillusioned with the idea that your work has a purpose and is appreciated. 
  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    @MegaWaffle you summarized a lot quite nicely, but the implied solutions... I just gotta react to that, particularly about moderation. That's just a no. Cheating and DC-s, these are the only things that require bans or other sanctions, but chat moderation is such a horrible idea.
    I agree most people who are offensive only act this way because they think they're anonymous (which is only partly correct, plus it's cowardly). I wish we all went China and required real name registration everywhere, but it's not gonna happen. Even so, I very strongly feel that what we call "moderation" is a euphemy for censorship. It's a wrong approach to try to protect "sensitive" people from being offended. It will just make them weaker. They really should just deal with it: there are simple ways of that, blocking them or just ignoring those who annoy you. Really, and that goes to the OP too: if one cannot deal with online bs, how does he fare in life??

    And the rank system needs to be fixed too. It would be so simple... if the devs just gave up trying to manipulate players into playing in a certain style, it'd be so much more clear. 0-4 kills mean -2 to +2 pips for a killer. Survivors, that's not that simple, they should keep some of the current emblem points, but 80% of the final result should just depend on whether they escaped or not. No BP for hook saves either: a gameplay where you can't succeed without cooperation would force you to save teammates early on, otherwise you have much less of a chance to escape, but it would encourage a "just get the hell out" attitude towards endgame, which would be much better for a horror game. 
    Of course this would result in much more tryhard playstyles, but that's why I completely agree we'd need a casual mode, open to anyone and ranked version which would be ruthless. But that would be a good thing.

    Umm, didn't originally wanted such a long post. Anyway, that's how I see it.
  • FinLadd
    FinLadd Member Posts: 190

    @George_Soros said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Community is so split between survivors and killers and so toxic that there's no fun in this game.

    You should have seen the 2000 game Sacrifice in its golden days. Best game ever created, but the trash talk there made this community look like a Mormon Bible study group.

    Back in my day if you wanted to start a flam war you would simply yell Bi> @FinLadd said:

    BigBubs said:

    @FinLadd said:

    If survivors and killers unite survivors need to accept that killer should be op for sure or you have A unbalanced game.

    Riiiight, ofc. Go and demand what YOU want.

    That's exactly what the OP is talking about , people like this creature are the problem.

    You can live In that bubble you are in as long as you want but trust me you will see how many actually agree with me. Have A good day... bruh

    Here is the problem with DBD and its community:

    Dead By Daylight doesn't know what direction it wants to go/what sort of game it wants to be. Sure its listed as horror but what type? You can easily debate several "horror" elements with this game.

    For example let me take two games that fall under the "Battle Royal" category that have clear game direction. Cod 4 Blackout is a Battle Royal that is meant to be more realistic (video game realistic) and competitive.
    Then we have a game like Totally Accurate Battlegrounds that is also a Battle Royal game but is clearly meant to be more casual and fun.
    If a gun in Blackout were to be considered way too "overpowered" it would be expected that this gun is re-balanced to maintain that competitive feel, yet if a gun was considered "overpowered" in Totally Accurate Battlegrounds it would be widely accepted as a fun gun that people may or may not want to see changed because the game is simply casual fun and not competitive by nature.

    Dead By Daylight doesn't have a clear direction with this community. Does it want to be a game where the survivors have to work together to overcome a truly powerful Killer or does it want to be a more casual game of what is essentially "tag". They seem to be confused themselves with how they try to balance the game and that is why so many people are in disagreement about what they want from DBD.

    Exactly my friend... Wisdom it's finest
  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    @Boss said:
    If the toxicity of the community is ruining the game for you, it's time to start not caring about others.

    You just need to get a thick skin.
    . . .
    No, thicker.
    . . .
    NO THICCER!

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187
    Candy Crush community is much worse