I wish you guys would give the Devs a break

It's just that you'd think most companies would opt to not have glaring bugs in the first place. It feel common place for things in this game to just break and having consumers that accept that is a massive break as well. But the twins were half baked at a full price, and now this desync.

I'm sure they will fix it eventually, but who can say what will break because of it.

Every patch gets worse and worse i would understand if it was a small indie company who just started but it isn't. They make more than a million dollars and have a monopoly on the asymmetrical game style.They always have released a new update with game breaking bugs remember last update how unplayable the twins where? Then you have some devs not wanting to change the UI because they're too proud. It took them almost 5 years to add a simple colorblind setting and it wasn't because they wanted too but because they got called out by popular game journalist. At this point they deserve all the critism they deserve.

I think now is worst time to have a break.

There still a lot of issues that should be fixed as soon as possible. Changing UI seem thoughtless, but they said it was made to add stuff in a future. It's just require polishing, same as animations. All that was planned long time before, and it was released between chapters for better focus.

Game map with huge amount of god pallets probably require more information to make it more balanced.

Desync issue was probably unexpected even for devs. Same as emblem system failure. Same as bugs on reworked maps. It's all just a bugs and it will be fixed eventually.

So if devs take a break and all this problems will stay as it is, game will probably lose a big chunk of playerbase for a while, and a lot of lost players will never come back because they find another game to play.

I agree that they deserve criticism, but that's not what the community gives them. Most of the time I see people in this community saying the developers deserve to be fired and how they must just let anyone be a programmer because the developers don't know what they're doing. And those are the nicest things I've seen people say about the developers. They don't get criticism, they get hate from this community.

As I explained to one of the mods before, it's actually worse than that. What I see is the classic scenario of your food coming undercooked, but this team takes it back and sends you out something even less cooked, while trying to argue to you that what they just sent you makes the game better. In a nutshell, they do a small public test week, are handed a bucket list of the major issues (like the UI) or hitboxes, and then decide to release it anyway, usually in an even worse state than it was in on the test build. It's like going going from a beta phase back to alpha phase, and releasing it as a finished product. It's a joke.

How many breaks can you possibly give them before being honest and telling BHVR that they need a different team? The mod I told this to literally tried to argue that the UI change made the game better. Not according to nearly everyone playing it. That attitude implies that the developers are deciding what makes the game better, and not the people playing it. When you completely disregard client feedback, you're asking for issues. They thought they knew better, and the players made pretty clear they don't. Making some decisions like a UI update is fine, but when your base tells you it sucks, don't ignore them for the sake of your own ego.

At the end of the day, it's their game and they can do what they want, but even the most popular titles like World of Warcraft had to eventually accept that they don't dictate for their base what they want in a game. If the people playing your game don't like it anymore, they'll move on.

Yes and no.

We should be allowed to say what's wrong with the game. Feedback is important for a games growth.

I just wish the community wouldn't start a riot for every little thing they believe is wrong with the game.

The devs don't really listen to us but when 95% of the community delivers their feedback like a tantrum throwing 5 year old would i can't really blame them.

Maybe if we didn't resort to review bombing in the past or if there weren't channels whose sole content was bashing the devs they would be more inclined to care

Truelly they are not the devs we wanted but the devs we deserve.

I normally don't comment on things concerning the devs but here I go.

Unfortunately, they devs have shown they mostly listen when the community makes a very big fuss about things. "Giving them a break" has shown to not work in the past and basically give them a free pass.

They're just incompetent or in denial or both as well as extremely slow at doing anything. For example, the Legion bug, their first response was basically "oh its not bugged, you guys don't know what you're talking about". It took the community pretty much yelling at them that it was for a month or so for them to be like "Ok guys I guess we'll look at it. Oh he is bugged". It took months to fix.

Their stance on OoO took the community basically making fun of them for month on end for them to be like "ok maybe we were wrong". Its taking months to fix or even decide what to do.

Look at the new UI, got shown community didn't like it, got released to PTB, community liked it even less, got pushed to live, surprise, community still doesn't like it. Their attitude was basically "Look, I know you guys hate it and are yelling at us, but we want to see if the console players yell at us too."

It takes overwhelming negativity to get their attention and to get them to stop being so stubborn.

There seems to be an ego problem or they believe they know better than everyone else when it has been shown multiple times before that they make horrible decisions and don't understand the game.

I'm sure there's good devs in the department, but there's a problem(s) somewhere, my guess would be the top of the chain but who knows for sure. I'm not for dev bashing or anything, but making a big deal of things and yelling for a long time seems to be what they respond to.

They make a lot more mistakes than the average game of this size, whether that be bugs or bad decisions or whatever.

The devs will get a break when they give the community a break from their bad practices/decisions. People have a lot of reasons to be upset, past what I put here.

With all due respect, they do it to themselves and put themselves in bad positions.

The real reason we are so hard on them? Time after time they poll the community, they ask us for feedback, they "listen" to us. They've always clearly heard what the community wants. They just do not care. They do what they want, often at the expense of the game's health. They patch over major issues with small bug fixes. They've spoken often about spaghetti code but just keep pushing update after update to bells and whistles without stopping to fix their core issues. If we didn't get a new chapter for six full months, no new content of any kind, no tomes, no nothing, and they spent that time to reorganizing themselves, fixing bugs, taking in numbers and listening to people who understand how the game functions so they can truly address balance, no one would mind. We went for so long without any real new content in the past and no one cared. We love the core concept of the game, and they truly have no direct competition. So what do they do when they outrage the community? What do they do when they push and push? They do damage control. They have NEVER proactively listened to what the community wanted on any major issue, they wait until people are pushed to mass exodus and until the review bombs start, then they drop a few free bp and say "we'll figure it out". So much of the community just accepts the bp and goes on their merry way but we really have spoiled them... they get away with treating the community that turned an indie studio into a big name like absolute garbage, and we enable it.

Do you remember anyone asking for graphical or animation updates? Was this something anyone cared about at all? Many people outright hate the new designs as they don't fit in with the less realistic overall style of the game. A lot of people think they make the game's flaws far more glaring, and that in an attempt to look and feel like more of a mainstream title, has lost much of its charm. So why is this their only real focus? Why do they only care about the hot topics? Why cant they just stop and fix the spaghetti code if its such an issue? Why do these huge bugs get past PTB? What other publisher is allowed to produce such a mess of a game without major scrutiny? Fall out 76 killed Bethesda's reputation, No man's sky (despite the resurgence in updates) destroyed a company. Cyber punk made everyone question the ability of the creators of the ######### witcher. Why does BHVR get a pass for a game that is so so broken? Why SHOULD they get a pass? We enable this and we need to be vocal that this is not sustainable