So why dont Remove SWF and fix KWF?

KYF with bloodpoints would just become a bloodpoint farm. SWF isn't nearly as unbalanced as whiny killers would have you believe.

@PatchNoir said:

@Dreamnomad said:
KYF with bloodpoints would just become a bloodpoint farm. SWF isn't nearly as unbalanced as whiny killers would have you believe.

so 4 survivors with BT,DS,SB,Deliverance or unbreakable is fine?. You must play PC but in ps4 the game is lot different buddy. Otherwise BP farm is just take long time and you get bored, new players on the game will suffer ages to up his characthers playing against build up killer or SWF teams when he doesnt have the META perks.

I really wish you killer mains would stop with the nonsense, not everyone runs those perks in every match and every match isn't a 4 man swf group. If they removed swf the game would die since people play the game to have fun with their friends.

Its a simple fact that games where you can play together are more popular and it's also a fact that most swf groups aren't toxic. It's just the toxic ones are remembered the most even though they're the smallest common denominator.

Not every SWF group is like that. I play both sides, and I also do SWF. My group isn't some Seal Team Six flashlight death squad. We're just four people playing to have fun. We don't play any differently than if we were solo.

I haven't been playing lately though because I've been spending all my time on Red Dead Redemption 2. However, the last few SWF groups I've faced I've absolutely dominated... Even as Freddy.

The real issue with SWF with comms lies with the fact that the survivor being chased can tell the others to genrush. Same thing if the killer camps.

Do I think SWF needs removed and comms should be bannable? No, however I DO think survivors need secondary objectives. Find parts to fix gens and flip breakers to power the gates. 

If that got added in, I believe people won't see SWF as an issue anymore.

@PatchNoir said:
Like SWF isnt balanced for the killer side and we are playing ranked broh, So lets just give ranks thing on Solo survival, and give BP to KWF seens reasonable to me.

Balance in a game which can't be balanced. Great choice of words.

But let's go into the real details, no one actually plays SWF like they're a bunch of tryhards. Not everyone plays like The Depip Squad did, that was a mistake.

No, most SWFs try and kill each other, because what's funny? Messing with each other and seeing who dies first for the memes. SWF actually helps the Killer, altruism and stuff.

Remove SWF and a lot of people will go find another game to play. A huge demographic of DBD are people who only play with their friends, can't enjoy solo because it's too annoying. Do they deserve to have a mode removed because some people like exaggerate?

No? Didn't think so.

Devs don't want you to be able to farm BP, and KYF would do just that.
Which is funny cause friendly Killers is still allowed, and going along with that as Survivor, and thus farming, is also still allowed.
But whatever.

SWF is a necessary evil.

Just dodge SWF, and relish in the fact they have to rebuild their group every time you do.

No, not all of SWF are toxic bastards, 5 min game pushers, uncaring if the killer has any fun, etc., but enough are that it's not worth the gamble. 

I don't have strong feelings for KYF kne way or the other.