More people need to play Billy
It’s such a shame that so many people just stopped playing Billy. He’s so fun to play as and play against and is one of the most balanced killers, arguably the most balanced. I’m sick of playing against Freddy every game.
Devs, why did y’all nerf him when he never needed it? His add ons were the only thing that were in need of a change. Giving him a change before Freddy and Spirit (it pains to me to say it as much as I love her) is honestly blasphemy. It’s another reason the community criticizes y’all, and y’all still wonder why you keep receiving criticism.
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I play Billy a bit, and I'm definitely getting back into him over the past few days. The nerf wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. You rarely overheat if you're precise with your chainsaw or don't over use it, and he still seems extremely viable.
Shame I rarely face any when I play surv, because they're almost always extremely fun games.
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Billy is my fav Killer to play against. So fun in a chase and even when he get's you with his chainsaw it's like "ahh good play"... but tbf i think people did spam his chainsaw too much before the nerf which made him a bit too OP. I couldn't imagine old Billy in this game the current state it's in. He would have a really high kill rating.
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Nobody wants to play a Killer with his power limited. Why play Billy, when I can play Freddy? Atleast Freddy isn't filled with bugs, crap add-on, and an annoying roar every time you use your power.
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I think they should play him more as well. He is fun and interesting to play against. And I don't agree with others with the roar. I think it fits him well and make him more scary.
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I miss fighting hillbillies he was fair and fun and probably the pinnacle of balance besides some addons.
Anything to reduce the number of Freddy and nurse players
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If you were against a Billy that was "spamming the chainsaw" he wouldn't have downed you for a long time because he would constantly be losing distance and position advantage over you (unless he was running cooldown, I'll agree with you then because both the cooldown and charge time add-ons were stupid). A bad Billy going for chainsaws all the time was literally better for you than him chasing you and smacking you twice.
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I dunno he used to be able to feather his Chainsaw so much faster around objects and stuff to hit you. But i've gotten a lot better at running the Killer and stuff since then so it could of just been me
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I still play him but very rarely. The animations and lower-than-normal FOV (I swear it's like 80 degrees or something instead of 87 and I really want a dev to come out and confirm this) kills any enjoyment I could potentially have with him.
And idk why people keep saying the overheat doesn't change the way you play Billy, because it absolutely does (at least it does now with the gimped 3.8c/s compared to the 5c/s which was perfect then they nerfed it for some ungodly reason). It doesn't do much, but the thought of overheating is always in the back of your mind when playing him, always glancing at the lower left corner to check what your overheat is at (and then looking at the top left and top center to check gens because lmao who cares if information is scattered all over the screen)
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His movement speed while feathering is the same. Unless you mean the actual charge time, which was the one thing that was actually a problem with Billy, and was the only thing along with cooldown that they needed to change.
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That's unfortunately what tends to happen when people continue crying for nerfs to the stronger killers instead of buffs to the weaker ones.
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I still don't like the new billy, his chainsaw still feels so weird to me and it is just REALLY hard to get chainsaws with him even in the open because it just feels so inaccurate. It is almost like survivors suddenly lose half of their hitbox when playing against him. What sucks even more is that I feel I am missing hits I should be getting and getting hits I should never be hitting.
Right now, it feels like you have to have surgical precision the few times you actually get to use your chainsaw to down survivors with it.
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Yeah I think the overheat was dumb. But I think the weaker add-ons got rid of a lot of people who mainly played with him add-ons instead of genuinely getting use to the pros and cons.
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I think the issue with lesser billys is because he got nerfed. Granted the nerf wasn't bad by other standards but it was still a nerf. If a little tiny change is placed upon a killer and someone shouts "Billy is no longer meta" then the mentality will be Billy is weak. I see this happen in several games. Someone gets a slight nerf, they are still effective but many just assume they aren't worth using anymore. Despite not actually trying them out and come to a conclusion themselves.
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Have you not seen Deathslinger?
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The main reason I always see as to why people stopped playing Billy (And my reason too) is because he's not fun anymore and is the clunkiest-feeling killer in the game. I'm perfectly fine with the overheat, with add-ons it's nonexistent and addonless it's a minor inconvenience at best, but what I'm not fine with is the terrible camera and animations that have sucked the fun out of the killer entirely. If something doesn't look good I'm not gonna have fun playing that something, just look at how most people reacted to the survivor animation changes. Gameplay-wise, it's fine, but visually it's not nice to look at whatsoever and makes the game less fun and worse-feeling overall.
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Clunkiest feeling killer in the game? Have you played nurse in the past 2 years?
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I used to play Nurse a lot, she feels a lot better to play than Billy, her FOV and animations haven't been made objectively worse unlike Billy. She has a few bugs that get in the way sometimes but at least the actual mechanics and her camera/viewmodel/abilities etc feel fine.
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I've been playing Billy for a good while but man the overheat mechanic has been turning my Billy games into a ragefest. I'm still gonna play him though, I like his new addons.
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No, it was the fact that his power is LIMITED, the bugs, AND the annoying roar. I don't want to baby sit a charge bar, deal with bad animations, and hear that stupid roar every time I use the saw.
Billy got the "counter play" y'all want Spirit to have. It's just easier to play Spirit or Freddy over Billy... Period.
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Maybe once the fix his ghost saws...
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I still play Billy but only with double engravings. Can't play the other way because it's boring. Yeah, the chainsaw overheats very fast but it is still valuable. The only problem with double engravings - you've got only 2 attepmts for a curve. But I've got used to that, somehow.
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This ☝️
These weird animations plus the stupid damn roar whenever he charges makes playing him so unfun.
He and Plague are the killers i hate the most to play
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I only play Billy for dailys.
I can't handle the Roar.
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I honestly think that wasn't a problem on billy, unless they had insta saw. And I have played deathslinger since the map reworks. You can still shoot survivors through certain loops on macmillan, and autohaven. I haven't played on the new game with him yet. But I'm assuming on specific loops, you can shoot over.
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I only play hillbilly if i get Engravings. he's just too slow for me without it, plus i usually do just basic m2 Billy, ...But too many loops that can't be curved. (I'm looking at you Lerys,)
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Billy is dead to me from the nerf. I prefer to remember him as a great killer. I never play with the garbage that he is today. The developers wanted this and it will be
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I occasionally play Billy when I'm bored with other killers.
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Billy is dead to me.
I have full legacy on him and they MURDERED HIM.
They pushed his camera forward to create a massive blind spot in front of him.
they reduced his fov.
they added janky movement.
they nerfed his radius at the start of the chainsaw sprint to a 90 degree cap, where as you could 360 with the sprint before the nerf.
they gave him a stupid roar that grates on my nerves to help rank 20 survivors without thinking about the good players.
They removed all good addons and destroyed his diversity.
they nerfed his nerfed addons and made the only good one iridescent so you never have it.
It wasn't just the overheat mechanic that nerfed him. They did way more and made it unpleasant to play him.
I also think they made him slower, but that could just be the reduced fov.
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find an old yt video of a billy game and compare the position of the sledge hammer.
Old billy could see the head and handle of the hammer. New billy can only see the top of the hammer. they shoved the camera forward and reduced the fov.
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his animations are getting fixed soon confirmed by one of the devs
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what about the roar?
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its staying
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Where was that mentioned?
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No thanks
Without any charge add ons, it is pretty much impossible to hit a good survivor with the chainsaw. Add to that the lame overheat that limits mobility and mindgames, and he is 100% not worth playing.
I am a Nurse main and feel confident saying that she is easier to play and has a better reward. Billy is trash.
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I remember whenever I was playing DBD during the weekdays of the month before the rework, my main goal was to make sure to play Billy. Before the rework I decided I wanted to have my fun with old Billy, and man it was such a blast. The amount of curving I can do was so fun, and the amount of sick curves I did was hella fun. My absolute most favorite moment with old Billy will always be when I chainsawed from the top of the Coal Tower building, and came straight down and downed a Nea. One of the most sickest moments I've had on DBD, and sadly haven't been able to do anything like that ever since with reworked Billy. Billy is still strong without a doubt, but he just doesn't feel rewarding to play anymore.
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Completely forget that one,thanks :)
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No way am i playing that turd of a killer. He had a lot of fun and exciting gameplay before the devs neutered his ass. His saw had way more consistency and i hold out no fate that the devs will ever fix the god awful mistakes that were the billy changes.
Btw congrats devs on making nearly all of the default killers wortless to play bar nurse and as for huntress well the added debris blocking shots on reworked maps didn't go unnoticed. Isn't it strange how every base killer got nerfed with pathetic buffs for base killers who are so low on most tier lists they almost have there own tier.
The devs are so arrogant they wont ever listen to the communities feedback. We said no to the ui changes. We explained in graphic detail the issues. We stated core issues in the twins gameplay and expressed concern with upcoming patches. But they never listened they just roll it out and basically say no rollbacks suck it up. Stop selling us/vandalising your undercooked content.
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Billy needed a nerf in the same way Nurse needed a nerf. Their zoning powers were too strong. Nurse obviously having 5 base blinks was insanely OP so that also got nerfed, but it was mainly their power to permazone survivors with no downsides. So overheat was necessary. In the average Billy game, Overheat wont be any issue at all.
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Then you were ######### with Billy prior to the nerf. Good Billies see no difference.
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Which Billies are you talking about? I have seen Billy once in probably 100 matches. I see Nurse more often. Billy is worthless.
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Billy unfortunately got "reworked" to oblivion. Like nurse, he's just plain not fun to play. The chainsaws that go THROUGH survivors and not down them make me want to rage quit.
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They completed their goal and made him fun for survivors.
It doesn't matter if he if fun for killer though.
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I used to play 80% survivor 20% killer. My favorite killer was Billy. They nerfed Billy and made him unfun to play so I went 100% survivor.
For any Survivors who don't understand how it's unfun, we (survivors) just got new animations that people have complained a lot about. Now add in a stamina bar to add a downside to sprinting and you'll be at 50% of the Billy nerf. It just isn't fun.
An example of the stamina bar would be that, the bar gives 15 seconds of sprinting. Every second you're not sprinting you regain 3 seconds. Getting hit by killer gives you another 10 seconds back. If you run out of stamina you can't Sprint for 5 seconds. I think this is similar to Billy's overheat mechanic.
I probably shouldn't be giving bhvr ideas lol.
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His BLAAEOIRHGAOIHAREOIHGHHH!!!! irritates me. So, no thank you.
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His addons definitely needed a rework, but not the rework they gave us. I mean, Billy has some of the worst addons in the game now!
- Black Grease: Moderately accelerates Chainsaw Cooling rate when a Flashlight is shining on you.
I mean seriously???
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I am on XBOX and currently downloaded 4.5.2. I have playing it for several hours and there is still ALOT of errors and still kinda unplayable. The errors I am recieving:
- The opening starter screen take virtually 5 to 10 minutes to load into the game.
- The "Play as Killer" or "Play as Survivor" buttons, when press takes a long time to go to character screen. Takes about 2 to 5 minutes or more to get to character screen.
- Character screens seems choppy and takes a second to make its own mind.
In game play:
- During chase, chase music goes on and off during chase.
- Animations of picking survivor up or hooking survivor get lagging or goes to stand still about 1 to 5 seconds before it hits the animation. (In fact all animation, including dead hard, seem choppy and takes a second or two to think what system is doing) . At one point during killer match, my match just stopped for 4 to 5 seconds when a survivor performed Dead Hard and next thing you knowcthey are clear accross the map.
- Still feels floaty
- Either game speed, framerate or desync still not working correctly. Gens speeds and running speeds seems to be outrageous. Play both survivor and killer. As survivor it seems as if I had the perk sprint burst running at all times. I mean its fun always outrunning the killer but every time, lol. Same as killer, killer sees characters running super fast and think they had sprint burst in fact they do not. It some games, it goes vice versa where the survivorvis slow and killer is super fast depending who has the better add on or ping (higher color add on or better ping, you win match). So something wrong with the sync, ping or frame rate still.
Well these are a few honorable mention glitches that I have seen with the up date.
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Any Billy main prior to his nerf. Anyone thinking Nurse and Billy are worthless are people who just want wins given to them. Billy now requires a bit more skill other than the brainless rev spam that came before. Just like Nurse now relies more on skill than brianless blink spam as before.
Spamming without negative side effect is bad killer design, which is why Tinkerer got nerfed, and why Freddy needs a nerf with his traps, and why Deathslinger needs a nerf after aiming. I mean, unless you want the standard survivor play to be genrushing.
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I dunno, anytime I run into a Billy player they are always SUPER sweaty and rude/toxic. I have the same problem with most huntress's as well.
So it's left me basically hating to play against them.
When I say sweaty btw I don't mean trying to win, I mean camping you with the caw reving out of fear you might 4%, or slug over and over for several minutes to ensure a 4k- but then call survivors toxic for literally no reason.
Just being abusive to people in post game chat; etc....
So honestly if I never see another Billy again I'll be alright.
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I'm happy not to face more Billies.
BBQ Billy was an extremely oppressive build in Solo Q and matches would be over in 2 minutes. And this was common and it was actually unusual for a match to last longer than 4 minutes.
His nerf made that a lot harder to do so I guess killers still haven't forgotten how strong Billy used to be and just don't want to be reminded of how bad he is now.
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