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Tips on dealing with Shack in 2021?
I 'member long time ago, Shack wasn't too difficult to deal with, just do one or two red glow mindgames and they will be close enough to hit if they don't drop god pallet.
But since they sped up Medium vaults as well as making it possible to fast vault the window while Standing STILL (ugh this makes me irrationally angry) it feels like it's nearly impossible to force the pallet drop without the survivor vaulting the window 3 times as an M1 killer, since you can't hit them if they hesitate in the middle anymore, and the fast vault gives them another loop.
I don't usually play M1 killer's anymore but have recently picked a few of them up again. Any tips would be appreciated for helping old dogs learn new tricks.
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In the shack there is not much to do, you can jump the window and look to the opposite side, stay still for 2 seconds and wait for the survivor to come to you, but if he is smart he will go to the pallet or wait at the window. The only thing that would be effective is to use Bamboozle to block the window and force him to throw a pallet, another trick would be to go to one side, entering the shack, but at the same time returning and going the other side, then you can hide the red light or wait, but the most convenient thing is to remove that pallet as soon as possible.
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Survivors have also figured out what angles to wait at in order to neutralize most of the mindgames of shack. You want to keep them moving because if they wait correctly at a corner there is almost nothing you can do but bruteforce the pallet drop.
You can play with the window vault a bit by faking the vault, then going to meet where they run, or by vaulting then vaulting back (and even triple vaulting, even if it looks stupid). Just have to be careful that you don't play mindgames with yourself while they leave the tile completely.
It ends up being about doing half a mindgame and then committing, so that you get them to drop the pallet ASAP. Shack pallet down on a map where Shack is central or accessible is a won chase for me.
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Removing the pallet is the goal, most definitely. It used to be if you can bait them into vaulting the window they won't be able take another loop without dropping, since you will coming around the corner, but now it feels like you have no choice but to sink time into it as an M1.
It just feels gross correctly predicting what they are gonna do, but still not getting anything from it.
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I feel that most of this could be fixed by re adjusting window vaults. Being able to stand still and wait is so frustrating. I remember they specifically changed how fast vaults worked because it was too easy to get them at some tiles, but now it feels easier than ever.
Heck as survivor I've been surprised at some of the fast vaults I get, like at the jungle gym with the window on the short wall.
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If you’re up against a confident survivor, you can use your red stain to bait the survivor into thinking you’re doubling back to the other side of the window and then moonwalking in shack to catch them out.
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Oh yeah. Part of it is them tinkering with the game, but another part is survivors just getting better.
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Don't try to do anything flashy or mind game them. Just chase them directly and force them to vault the window three times so they either have to leave the Shack into a likely deadzone you'll be rather close, or drop the Shack's pallet.
Either outcome is good for you. Trying to mindgame them and failing is just giving them more time to loop around the shack without using another allocated window vault.
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try to get the get pallet is broken, which will be challenging, try to avoid killer shark as much as possible
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Play nurse, p head, spirit, or hag.
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they still get the vault before you can hit them.
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