Can we have a serious talk about dead hard for a minute?

Same. DS is strong, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather play a 4 DS squad than. 4 DH squad. Of course often times really you see plenty that run both. But DH is a bear when multiple people are running it.

I honestly just don't understand how people have such a hard time with dead hard. Learn how to out position survivors and how to direct them into a position where DH won't be a big deal. People make it seem like if someone uses DH they instantly teleport across the map. There's so many anti-loop killers and tactics DH is only an issue if someone is at killer shack or a strong loop and they actually know how to loop it correctly, which you should be able to identify pretty quickly and the smart move would be to break off that chase and put your pressure somewhere else. I feel like half these nerf discussions are people who just get outplayed and need an excuse for why they got outplayed instead of looking back and see what they could have done better in these situations.

The glaring issue with DBD that will remain constant is this very subject of “perks” and how survivors use them. The game is already unbalanced because survivors rely on circumstances and situational advantages to win. Killers rely direct/indirect impact and with addition to perks that give them circumstantial advantages along with the system’s bloodlust. If we start asking BHVR to nerf every single survivor perk that gives them an edge... that only reflects to me how unbalanced the killer community is. You don't want equality in a game or equity you want to advantages. There are 5 perks that survivors use as and advantage and 9/10 only one perk is placed in the slot. On the other hand... there are 13 killer perks that give an edge on top of add ons to give you ultimate insta-downs.

They don't care about killers.

So, DH is the perk du jour to be inserted into the same conversation that takes place on the forums over and over and over. You're sick of DH and think it's op. Gee, I bet there are no survivors who think the same about plenty of killer perks, and who cares about "they're going to be" rumors about nerfing this or that? The game we have today is the game we have to play, if you CHOOSE to play the game. I've watched countless hours of major youtubers going against top-tier swf's and their most common response to an attempted DH is an amused, sarcastic "Sick dead hard, dude!" The extremely rare instance is when someone uses it effectively, at just the right moment, to make any difference whatsoever in the outcome of a chase, and when someone does, the response is an admiring (and possibly surprised) "Wow, that was a really good dead hard," usually followed by the streamer breaking chase or still getting the down. When I play survivor, I never use DH. It has not even activated enough times for me to consider it uselessly unreliable. As usual, in my opinion, the elephant in the room which is making no attempt to hide itself is whether you are up against an effective SWF all of whom are running DH, or are you against a random team. EVERY decent perk is a nightmare against a good swf and NO perk is going to save a quartet of solo's; therefore, this, like every other post complaining about every other survivor perk, is less about the perk and more about facing swf's versus solo squads.

Survivors can't win without their sprint burst, dead hard, DS. All their exhaustion perks.

If they remove bloodlust there needs to be more mindgameable pallets per map. Many pallets in The Game, Temple of Purgation and Haddonfield, with 2 long sides and a pallet in the middle, are a perfect example of what not to do with pallets. There's just no mindgame, even with Bloodlust I.

Dead hard is really easy to counter? If the survivors doesn't time it correctly they will go down. If you know a survivor has dead hard you can easily bait them and then kill them if they waste it to get to a pallet you can bet that they are going to pull the pallet down and then pallet destroyed. Survivors also have a hard time as well y'know? Survivors have to face constant camping and tunneling yet its the killers that get all the buffs and Survivors get nerfs plus Dead Hard is an exhaustion perk so it takes a long time for it to fill.

I'm sorry but I disagree because not only do you have to be in an injured state to use dead hard you also have to be running at the time of using dead hard. Also, dead hard only works 50-75% of the time you use it because of lag or connectivity issues. So I personally believe people should just stop complaining about perks both killer and survivor being broken because nobody likes nerfs. if the devs are just going to continue to nerf perks every time somebody complains enough about a perk the game's just going to destroy itself and be unplayable more so than it already is.

You realize that half of killer is hoping that the survivor makes a mistake right? You ever try rank one pc swfs as a console player trying to loop you for ages while the other three genrush, ngl those types of games are just stressful, the least they could do help me move slightly faster to get one down because that first hook is vital, without it, you pretty much lose since people go back to gens after you leave for 0.5 seconds. I'm a good killer, but I'm not amazing, we can't all be pros, all it takes is one great looper and they get a easy win.

You obviously didn't really read what I said, I said bloodlust is important for those times you face a god looper, other times not so much, also why are you being toxic for? Maybe if you actually pay attention to what I'm saying you wouldn't being saying stupid ######### like that, damn this game really does have a ######### community.