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So I Decided to try Survivor Side today....
- This Ghostface chased me through 2 generators, then did nothing but teabag me the entire time on the hook. Luckily a team mate was running Kindred, so they did gens and escaped.
- You're good 'ol fashioned camping Bubba. 3 gens down, 3 survivors left, and yeah. This is how he wins his matches.
- Wraith that did nothing but beat people through struggle until sacrifice. Number of gens didn't matter. Dignity wasn't a part of his vocab for himself or anyone else.
These were all purple and green rank Killers btw. So it seems like you can level up pretty damn far being a toxic butthead.
INB4- I play Solo queue. I have no friends that play. These are pure facecampers that permeate this game experience at every level. "Just do GENZZZZ" doesn't quite help in Solo queue, because unless someone is running Kindred, there is no way of knowing a Killer is camping until it's too late.
So apparently the "punishment" isn't much of a deterrent LMAO. I get campers probably every other game in Solo queuing. I'm Rank 7.
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Until the developers start to see more examples of how incredibly busted Camping/Tunneling is in this game, they will not do anything.
We need more options outside of perks.
Oh, and PS. This happens in Red Ranks too.
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I should have mentioned that I'm on PS4 console.
Also, I' ve been playing Killer mostly lately. MOST of my empathy goes to Killer in this game because SWF is ballz to play against.
But the bloody camping almost makes this game intolerable for solo survivors.
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Thing is some of these killers aren't camping because they think they are going against a swf.
I face swf constantly on pc (rank 2) and the only times I really don't do too well is when I am trying a killer who I haven't played barely if at all. Which is understandable.
Many of these killers do it without a care in the world of what it will mean to their emblem or points. Which is why I wish there were more options for that hooked survivor who now basically has to play sacrificial lamb for the entire match.... the now turned boring match.
I don't think Camping needs more penalties because that won't stop the abuse, there is no way the game is able to tell the difference between Camping because it was a strategy vs Camping because you simply felt like it that day.
And yes, this is one of the reasons Solo Queue is a miserable experience.
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Bbbbut SuRvIvOrs aRe sO eAsY aNd ChIlL tO pLaY, oNlY kIlLeRs sIdE iS fRuStRaTing. Im R1 both sides and I get way more frustrated playing survivor, especially solo than killer.
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"You're good 'ol fashioned camping Bubba. 3 gens down, 3 survivors left, and yeah. This is how he wins his matches."
If he won this then that's on the Survivors, if he was camping like you are stating he was.
I personally don't have many issues playing Solo. Some Killers or teammates can be annoying but its almost always more chill and easy compared to playing Killer ever.
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Oh come ON lmao.
"U must be lying cuz Bubba's never camp derrrrppp sumthin' sumthin SURVIVORS faultz".
The whole point, if you read my post, and subsequent posts ( and they are REAL short so you can do it!) is that when playing SOLO queue survivor, you often do NOT know a killer is camping before *it is too late*. UNLESS someone is running Kindred.
Thing is, you cannot control your team mates response to said situation because in solo queue, *you do not know or communicate with your team mates*.
As I said in my first post, in the Ghostface example, I was running Kindred and they were bright enough to do gens and escape.
At teh same time, I think many of us in Solo queue actually *feel bad* for these random people that we don't know. How crummy is it to wait in a queue, and lose your items/offerings/pip/rank etc because some jackass has decided he wants to stand in front of them for 2 minutes despite the BP penalty and what not?
Seriously dude, you will not see a greater defender of Killers than I, because I've been having a crap time with SWF groups. That doesn't make my OP any less sad and pathetic.
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Speak for yourself.
Playing killer is easier than playing survivor sometimes especially if you don't have any meta perks equipped, and what OP points out happens.
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I just had a match as Solo queue survivor and after saving them all game, my team mates left me on the hook through struggle, until I had a HAIR of life left in me. They opted to do gens instead until they realized the situation was rather dire and they'd be screwed if they didn't have more hands on deck.
And yet we're all supposed to pretend that in Solo Queue survivor mode, they'll act like a well oiled machine and know exactly what to do in any circumstance like professionals.
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I mostly only play Solo as Survivor, and the recent three times I tried to pick the game back up in Red Ranks... I died almost every match with them being 4K matches. I went back to Killer and got 3Ks sparing the last guy also at Red Ranks. It's interesting to see how conflicting the hive mentality is on the forums compared to my personal experience.
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If they Camp just do gens. You can easily do all 5 gens on first hook camp. And the killer will walk away with 1 kill.
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Did you even read the thread?
It's SOLO queue. Unless someone is running Kindred, you're screwed. And even then, you're still screwed because some people just feel hopeless when the first two are downed so they throw the match.
I seriously just at this moment, finished nother match at Midwich School with yet ANOTHER hook camping Bubba. He finished with 4k and 11,000 BP- which is not much.
######### is the pay off? I'm a Baby Killer and I never camp. Like maybe during EGC if I'm against an SWF.
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So? do the gens and outrank them. They only camp because overly altruistic survivors continue to reward this behavior FULL STOP
Train them properly and bore them to death.
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Tell me, how do I communicate to 3 strangers I'm randomly paired with to just do gens? Telepathy? How does the first survivor who goes for the save KNOW there's a stealthed Ghostface or Pig crouching and waiting until it's too late?
It just happened YET AGAIN.
And 2 team mates diconnected as soon as they figured out what was happening and then it was just me and a Nancy left while this toxic Pig slugged her and searched the map for me.
I can't believe people defend and justify this behaviour. It's bizarre.
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Is normal. About 1/4 of all killers I face are like this.
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Here's the thing. Killer is only frustrating if you're bad at it or the survivors are significantly better than you.
Survivor always has the potential to be frustrating no matter how good you are at the game compared to the killer... or your fellow survivors.
You do realize you can't do gens while you're on the hook being facecamped.
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They are. They are working on a "trial warm up" type feature.
You know what I heard when they addressed the Camping question on stream?
"It sucks, oh well"
Like, I don't even think they understand how abusive it can be in general let alone with specific killers.
If they were actually invested in making the game more balanced, they would introduce Built-in options so survivors would actually play without meta perks a lot of times... and I would even go as far as saying, I'd be up for a little debuff here and there when it comes to perks like BT after.
Which consequently it is something the killer community often complains about too.... "Why do I see BT, UB, DS in every match!" You often see that question, but never do they once ask themselves, maybe it is because survivors are tired of boring matches, where it just consists of a killer idling at the damn hook. Instead, you what they suggest? Your very own complaint "Just genrush" cuz that'll teach em right? It doesn't even begin to solve the issue, nor does it provide an interactive match. Which is what makes the game fun.
Not holding M1 at a generator, and certainly not idling at a hook. Who wants to play that game?
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I very very rarely have this happen to me. Survivor for me is a soothing experience compared to killer.
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Exactly, but majority of people here think it's the other way for some reason.
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Camping like this happens a bunch in red/purple because teammates will try to be altruistic instead of do gens and leave. Only times they focus on gens is if killer isn't camping and NOED is around...then they all get hit with NOED because they try to be altruistic instead of leaving. 😂
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Killer queues are still instant for me and survivor queues taking up to 10 minutes around now, so camping musn't be such a problem.
(I personally haven't been face camped in the past week or so)
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You suck it up and deal with it. You can't depip at the lower ranks, so you'll eventually move pass that balony.
If your team is bad, then learn to carry harder.
You can't change anything in this game except how you play. Instead of lamenting behavior that will never change, look inward and find ways to beat it.
BTW, I'm not defending it - I find hook farmers to be a scourge on this game that need to be punished harder. If we had less hook farmers, we'd have less campers - guaranteed.
Attack the real problem, not the result of the problem.
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I understand what you're saying in theory, and in a perfect world, maybe it would be possible.
But there is no way to pip if team mates disconnect because they don't want to entertain a facecamper for the 5th time that day, yanno? And if there's only 2 survivors left and 5 generators, like that's going to go well. Maybe you'll get one or two, but both people left know in the back of their mind that it's going to boil down to a hatch match.
And I see this happening more often than even 2 months ago. Survivors in solo queue just think; "Oh not again- screw this." and bam~ D/C.
It's also pretty hard to pip if you just do gens. You get nothing for Altruism category, not much in the Chase/Bold etc departments.
But mostly I think we can all agree it's just a miserable, eye-rolling experience all around and unless a group of survivors is toxic as hell, the Killers are just doing it to grief the game and ruin a stranger's experience. Why else would a Wraith beat a survivor on the hook for the full sacrifice? Or Ghostface teabag while the rest of the team does gens and leave? They're doing it to be horrible to someone they don't know.
It would be nice if there was a way to report such unabashedly poor behaviour, but I know very well people would abuse it and report Killers when the Killers played normally (but did well). It's a pickle that way.
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