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Huntress vs Deathslinger. Which killer is better?
Two of these killers are using ranged weapons. So which of these two is better?
Imo deathslinger might be a bit better.
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Theyre both good for different reasons. Neither is really better than the other overall, they just do and handle certain situations better than each other.
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I prefer the Slinger of the D's myself, but it's pretty obvious the Huntress is better in almost every way.
The only advantages the Deathslinger has is the quick aim to shoot time and not needing to run to a locker to reload. In every other aspect, Huntress is better, because her projectiles damage the Survivor upon and impact and can actually down Survivors without having to drag them to her.
Huntress can down Survivors through pallets, Deathslinger can only put them in Deep Wound if they aren't already, unless the tile is short enough that he can navigate around before the chain breaks.
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Generally Deathslinger, on max potential Huntress because of Iridescent Head.
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Deathslinger can get hits where huntress couldn't and he has no wind up time. Time-loss is acceptably minimal if used with the right addons.
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Huntress has a better 4v1 game as she doesn't need to reload after every shot so overall Huntress is better as she can better control the entire game outside of chases.
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All in all it depends on the situation and the player. Huntress can get hits over pallets what Deathslinger can not. But both can get hits through windows and the projectile hitbox and speed is superior on Deathslinger. (Both have a max projectile speed of 40 m/s but Huntress needs to be fully charged for that)
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Huntress is far above the deathslinger in about every single way, and has some disgusting add-ons while deathslinger mostly has total garbage
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@Trashmaster Tell me about the ways in which Huntress is far above Deathslinger without the addons.
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Neither as both are about the same power level.
Deathslinger has higher 1v1 chase potencial and focuses on fast chases due to his high consistency.
Huntress has better 4v1 snowball with slower deadlier projectiles and higher range.
Both extremely dominant chase killers when played by someone who is good with them.
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I'd say huntress.
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Huntress IMO. Being able to down someone across the pallet I think is a big deal. I will admit that the gap between the two is smaller than I had initially perceived, though.
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Huntress is better her pros outshine DS pros she has longer range, no prerrequisite for dealing a health state (doesnt need to reel and hit) and faster re-attack, especially after a hit.
Deathslinger pros are a smaller effective TR (I know Huntress is 20 and DS is 24 but she has a 40 yard lullaby) and the Deep Wounds added effect and he doesnt need a locker to reload but nothing else.
Also he is way more lenient if you suck with him and her, with Huntress if you miss all 5 hatches you are done for, you lost the chase with Deathslinger, eventually you'll down the guy even if you have to shot him 10 times because he is very strong at chasing but his trade off is he sucks at absolutely everything else, good Huntress have decent map control and can attack gens from quite a distance, he cant, Huntress is dangerous in a 30-40 yard range he isnt etc.
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1. Instant damage, deathslinger will always have to reel and swing
2. Effectively unlimited range. Though with range hatchets are easier to dodge, potentially insane with aura reading
3. Doesn't need to reload all the time and hatchets have a very low cooldown
4. Massive hitboxes, while they can be a downside the absolute size of the hatchets heavily favours the huntress on dedicated servers
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I think Huntress is better but not in every way. The humming for example is not in her favor.
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@Trashmaster Thanks for the constructive points, to get somewhere just saying "in about every single way" isnt very helpful. But naming your arguments is always great.
As for point nr. 3, she doesnt need to reload after every hatch throw but her reloading on lockers takes longer than Deathslingers reload and she cant reload on the spot but has to get out of her way to a locker in order to reload.
As for 4. i give you, that survivors cant react as fast if they have to move farther in order to avoid a bigger projectile but other than that its the same.
About her attack, she has to charge her attack, what takes a lot longer than Deathslinger, making her more easy to loop. A Deathslinger can shoot and hit instantly on line of sight what means deathslinger can effectively not be looped, other than in a range that keeps the survivor out of line of sight the entire time.
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Deathslinger handles short loops better then Huntress and actually pretty much all loops better than Huntress. Since he just shoots as soon as they want, the antiloop mechanics are just far superior to Huntress. Huntress also has to leave chases to reload. Deathslinger slows down just a bit but keeps going.
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@Trashmaster The long range thing is in my opinion only a good point if you have consistency with a long range throw, i consider it more of a rare occurrence to hit someone that is a longer range away with Huntress as Deathslingers Range.
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@Trashmaster The instant Damage can be useful but you have to charge your attack and sometimes you dont even need to reel as Deathslinger, since just stopping the Survivor from moving for a second can be enough to get the hit. The reel doesnt take that long if you compare it with the charge time and delay of Huntress attack.
Basically they are pretty similar in terms of timing.
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Huntress is better simply because she can deal with multiple survivors and deathslinger cannot.
they both can end chases very fast and while deathslinger does so a bit faster huntress can go on a snowball sprees and a good one can land shots on survivors deathslinger just can't because of both range and obstacles.
A good huntress also will definitely down a survivor in 5 hatchets so ammo isn't a big issue unless you have gotten back to back downs, In my eyes she is simply better for having better crowd control/snowball potential.
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The thing about long range is, if you miss a throw or a shot you loose a lot of time, if you waste more shots or throws than you hit at that range, its not a favorable thing to attack at that range at all, since you loose more time than you gain with it.
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While its probably true, that huntress can spread damage a little faster, Deathslinger with reload addons and great timing that breaks the chain early, can actually get multiple downs in a short time aswell.
I believe that to be the main difference, better stock (without addons) medium range damage spread on Huntress vs faster attacks on Deathslinger.
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Long range can refer to across the map or somewhere around 32 meters or so as huntress and max range as deathslinger, even if you miss a shot you don't waste that much time in fact i would argue that even if huntress fully charges a hatchet and misses she still doesn't waste as much time as deathslinger missing one shot.
Huntresses fully charged hatchets travel at 40m/s, at around 40 meters a good huntress can often hit survivors so i would say that as long as she has the shot it is worth trying it. The trade off with either is injuring or downing a survivor, huntress has a lot more leeway for this due to her multiple hatchets.
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Not really you still have to reel survivors in and hit them then reload and do it again.
if survivors put objects between you as they spread out your not getting more than 2 hits with your power.
Huntress doesn't suffer from that she can throw 3 or so hatchets by the time you reel in and hit a single survivor.
edit: Im also considering if deathslinger uses his best addons, he simply cannot snowball well compared to huntress it isn't even close.
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Well i mean if you can get a little closer before throwing and than hit with the first throw, it is better than missing the first throw and using another one after that.
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@AChaoticKiller Thanks for your information, i believe both sides can learn a thing or two from the arguments about the 2 killers.
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There are multiple instances where you would want to try to hit them, a common one is if you run into another survivor in a chase. When you down one or the other it's always work trying to snip the survivor that you let go and often you can hit them.
Your right that it isn't always worth going for the snip but there are many situations as huntress where you have a lot of leeway to go for it and it's nearly always worth it as you don't get slowed that much, of course that doesn't mean doing it and putting yourself ina spot where you have less then 2 or 3 hatchets.
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@AChaoticKiller One thing i like about Deathslingers chain is, you pull the survivors towards you inside meele range, meaning they cant get as far away from you. If you have reload you can take 2 shots in rapid succession and get a down directly.
Also you can pick survivors up directly after a down with the attack, making walking towards the downed survivor unnecessary giving you a time gain.
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How can you really think slinger is better? Huntress does almost everything better. She has unlimited range, way more generous hitboxes, has 5 shots basekit, doesn’t get slowed nearly as much for missing/hitting shots, has significantly more powerful addons, and to top it all off she can down you over a pallet.
Slinger has a smaller terror radius and that’s about it. Even his faster projectile speed can be mimicked with hatchet charge speed addons.
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Depends on map rng but overall deathslinger will be better in most situations, especially against good teams.
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@AChaoticKiller I can the potential in your scenario with multiple survivors at a longer range, possible best on very open maps, while Deathslinger favors thighter quarters.
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Yeah in terms of 1v1 deathslinger is a good bit better than huntress but i value crowd control as towards the end game you often find survivors together and unless they are both injured deathslinger just can't reliably get multiple downs.
The way i have seen it is considering the worst situation where the survivors are all split deathslinger is better than huntress until 1-3 gens are left, then when finding survivors together is more common huntress beats him by being able to down survivors without slowing down as well as being able to get hits faster with her power assuming she is very accurate.
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He is imo far more versatile in loop scenarios, the bigger hit box of huntresses hatchets is more of a disadvantage for me, since it makes a lot of angles impossible, it makes attacks over barricades sometimes impossible, good survivors always hide in the deadzones of huntress hatchets while in a loop. Just crouching behind a low obstacle can make it impossible to hit for Huntress but not for Deathslinger, he can even shoot through cracks in the killer shack walls and other cracks in walls, and i got hits many times in those scenarios.
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It goes both ways. The massive hitboxes let you throw over objects and get hits where deathslinger can’t. Even though it looks ridiculously cheesy.
And what about the hits the game just gives you for free?
Look at this down lmao. That’s just everyday huntress life.
And it’s not like hitting with slinger even guarantees a down. There could just be a random piece of debris in the way the survivor clings to and your down is gone. And he can’t down at safe pallets, huntress can. Idk why this is even an argument. Huntress is better in almost every single way except the lullaby and terror radius.
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As slinger main I kind of have an inner urge to respond to this.
Unlimited range doesn't do that much for her as in all loops you're closer than 18 away, more range doesn't help vs looping. Bigger hitboxes come with negatives and positives, they're easier to land but slinger's small ones can shoot through and mainly over even the tiniest holes and obstacles and there's a lot of them if you know about them. 5 shots is better that I agree but good slinger doesn't need more than 1-2 shots anyway. But you do get slowed down far more for attempting shots, slinger moves at 110% at all times while beeing able to shoot whenever. Her addons are much better true but a lot of slinger's are decent too, not as busted as her but good enough. Slinger can down over pallets too, you just need to know how, it's not as simple as hitting survivors while they vault.
His main advantage is instand ADS, that's massive advantage if you use it properly. His chase potencial in 1v1 is better in almost all tiles. Not saying that huntress can't destroy survivors in loops but an amazing survivor player will loop her far longer then he could deathslinger.
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Huntress, is less limited and actually requires more than 10 IQ to play as.
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