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leaving game is wrong?

What is the function of the disconnect button? Today in the Spanish forum they deleted a comment for showing my dissatisfaction with the game and saying that if I am having an unsatisfactory game I would leave the game, the question is why there is a button for that if it is frowned upon to use it

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  • Tomskrex
    Tomskrex Member Posts: 142
    edited March 2021

    In my humble opinion, disconnecting is for life emergencies, in that case, no one is expected to choose a game over a real life.

    On the other hand rage disconnecting is douchey, I am guilty of rage quitting few times after pent up stress like most of us but I dropped the game for some time after that to relax.

    Disconnecting because "broken killer" or "teammate bad" is douchey.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    that's a great truth I would like the mod in Spanish to have the same common sense as you :(

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    I believe that one's mental health is the same as an emergency as any other, it is good to know when to say enough is already too much for today

    but I would like you to not be misjudged for that and less to delete a message for giving an opinion as it happened to me

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    As long as you understand what I mean by "Rare Ragequit".

    This means you play a vast majority of your games and are not one of those people who quit every time they are first down, or anytime they face a specific character or mechanic.

    I have a personal rule that if I ever ragequit, I'm not allowed to play the game ever again for the rest of the night or week. If I ever get pushed to the point that I become a poor sport, then I shouldn't be playing the game at all as I no longer have the right attitude to play the game.

    Only pick up the game and play if you have the mental fortitude to put up with the occasional unsatisfactory game. Be aware of yourself BEFORE you go into the game.

    And if you are always having an unsatisfactory game, be honest with yourself and ask yourself why can't you find fun with the game despite it's challenges.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    Example of the last 5 games, 4 were tunneling or championing the sixth if something similar happens to me, I get out, it seems that playing a game or trying to have fun beyond hitting the spacebar or clicking is "fun", at least to me It gives that feeling, and having to forge a mental strength to play a game one afternoon seems exaggerated to me, the same goes for murderer 2 games I can't find anyone and 3 generators are repaired I'm going home

    Instead I can spend all day playing LOL or csgo with people who attack me for playing well or badly that I am not interested in that at the end of the day I know I can play or at least it gives me that feeling

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    The fact that the rules are only in English and deustch makes it a bit difficult for me to understand them and more so using so many abbreviations and the google translator is not very friendly with abbreviations.But to delete a comment for giving my opinion on a topic as a possible solution, it seems a bit authoritarian to me, also the tab should not be called discussions but let's talk about what I want

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    I have a personal rule that if I ever ragequit, I'm not allowed to play the game ever again for the rest of the night or week. If I ever get pushed to the point that I become a poor sport, then I shouldn't be playing the game at all as I no longer have the right attitude to play the game.

    Dang, I respect your commitment.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600
    edited March 2021

    If you only ragequit only the one time after the 5 games, that's somewhat understandable.

    However, I think it's best that you ask yourself after a bad game "can I deal with another game like that without quitting?" Be aware of your emotional state before you q up for another game. Try to figure out at what point you just aren't ready to deal with it so you aren't ragequitting. The idea is to not even start a match if you don't have the right attitude BEFORE the game starts.

    Many players make the mistake of continuing to play when they're angry when they really should just put it down and straighten out their emotional state first.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    it may be that I have a pre-consept image in my mind that is no longer and that is why I think the game was what it was 1 year ago maybe

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    And how would I know that the forum rules in Spanish are not in the forum rules tab

    They are hiding because they are ashamed or what?

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,166

    No they are specifically in the Spanish Section of the Forum, hardly hidden. And you could have asked a moderator if you weren't sure of these rules.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    If I had asked him, he would not have answered me, it would not be the first time that he did not answer me at all or after a week he deigns to give a self-completed answer

  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    So let me get this straight you can't even stop playing your game whenever you want because that's apparently not allowed? There is literally zero incentive or reward for winning a match. You can't tell somebody that they can't stop playing their game if they want to unless it's for some arbitrary pre-approved reasons no matter how frowned upon it may be.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Yes. Running away from a game because you aren't having fun and so thereby ruining 4 other people's experience is wrong.

    The DC button is there for emergencies, such as bugs or hackers.

  • Zaytex
    Zaytex Member Posts: 841

    ngl haddonfield be making me trigger happy with that leave game button /s

    thank god I never get it regularly

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    If you don't want to play another match, don't queue up another match and quit.

  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    Yes that is usually what people do... I don't see your point because there's a difference between not wanting to play another match and someone who feels like quitting mid match for whatever reason. They wanted to play another match so they went to one. During that match something made them not want to play anymore. So again as frowned upon as it may be people do have a right to do that.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    No, I disagree. I think if you do that mid-match excessively, you deserve some sort of repercussion.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    Correction in the case of survivor I am ruining the game experience of 3 people because 1 is ruining it to me and killer they would be ruining the experience to me I mean that I did not ruin the experience to anyone because they only wanted to leave the game

    The question is why the gaming experiences of some players are worth more than those of others?

    an unanswered question.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,166

    Because part of the game is going to involve camping/tunelling etc which isn't something that's against the game rules, that does not give anyone reason to leave the game - that's ruining it for 4 players, not 3 because the killer does have consideration here as well.

    Once you ready up in that lobby, you are committed to playing that game - leaving mid match because something happens that you don't like but is within the scope of the game, is why we have the DC penalty in place. And why we do warn on this forum for promoting DC'ing as it falls under Unsportsmanlike Behaviour.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    First, its 4 people. The killer isn't a bot and they don't play to bully people with no hope of ever winning.

    Second, you aren't more important than 4 people. That is a staggering level of entitlement. Don't play multiplayer games if that's how you think.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    because I would have to have that consideration with a person who clearly does not have it with me, it would be strange as if a person hit you or did something you do not want and you have to thank him, I think you do not understand the point that it is not fun, I don't know if you currently play the game or if you are god or maybe you only play in premade of 4 but mortals when they beat us 4 out of 5 games because we play well we don't have fun I think nobody in their right mind likes it / It is fun to press a key so as not to die even knowing that it is the only possible end and by disconnecting at least you show your discontent towards that person avoiding the chat at a time when you know that it is a bad idea to say something

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,166

    I'm sorry, but as I said, if you don't like something that is within the game then that's not the fault of the 4 other players that you are effectively ruining the game for!

    And yes I play the game, play both sides of the game and rarely SWF.

    If I'm not enjoying a particular match, I play the match to the conclusion and move on to the next one, as you are supposed to do.

    And I will emphasis, this is exactly why the DC penalty was introduced in the first place, to prevent players from just DC'ing when something happens in the game that they personally don't like.

  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    Yes I agree that leaving excessively should be punished. My problem is the comment the mod made stating that you can only use the leave function in the game for certain pre approved reasons other why it's ragequit!!! and you don't have a good enough reason to do that essentially. For example, say I'm having a good time playing and I'm like alright I'm gonna get one more game in before I go to bed cause I got work in the morning. I get into the game and for whatever reason maybe halfway into the game maybe a little less there's something going on that's made me decide meh this just isn't a fun game or this game is a definite loss and I don't wanna waste my time so I leave. Nobody can tell me that I can't do that and it's ragequit!!! I just feel that's a nonsense extremely unprofessional response from a mod of all people.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    It's true, I just realized that since they put the penalty, the murderers began to rampage more blatantly and the game little by little went to hell, I'm going to listen to FrenziedRoach and I'm going to stop playing the game, I think that's the answer. more reasonable than I found in both forum

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    No, that behavior actually the exact thing that SHOULD be discouraged. You DC because something came up IRL that demands your immediate attention. Not because you are bored.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    When they beat you / tunnel they are not giving you to understand that they want to kill you and take you out of the game, it is that the murderer loves you very much and when 4 generators finish and you can't find anyone, it's the same situation, I don't know if they want to leave the game. is that they like you very well and do not want to waste time some tender, the truth

  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    Feel free to think what you want. My life doesn't revolve around video games though so I'll play when I want and I'll stop playing when I want. Like I said I'm not sitting here advocating to quit the game every time something bad happens but I feel like I'm done for the night and I'm in the middle of the game it is what it is. If it's such a big problem add a ranked mode for people who wanna play super seriously and a casual mode for people who don't really care what happens. If you're gonna sit here and tell me that if I join a game I'm obligated to dedicate my time to that entire game even if I don't want to feel free to pay me for my time.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Sure, you can stop playing when you want. Just don't get mad if you get punished for it.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    if it's true we'll see you inside Deathgarden , hasta la próxima KEKW

  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    Yes that's my point. I don't have a problem with the fact that there's a penalty in place. Personally I've only seen it around a 3 minute penalty, so idk if it goes up based upon how much you disconnect and that's why people complain or how it works exactly. What I have a problem with is the fact that there's a moderator sitting here essentially calling people rage quitters and telling people when they can and can't stop playing the game. That's not what a moderator does. A moderator should explain why they're is such a system in place and what their objective of using the system is and be a neutral voice of reason. Not to comment on a post and tell people they don't have a good enough reason to "rage quit!!!!"

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871
  • RoachesDelight
    RoachesDelight Member Posts: 312

    The problem with that is majority of the time you don't know why that person left. There's multiple reason why they may have disconnected that's completely out if their control but they're immediately deemed a rage quitter with no actual evidence to support the fact. I've had somebody message me before profusely apologizing over the fact they got disconnected because their power flicked, but guess what? They still got abused and called ignorant things because for some reason people need to feel mighty and superior in a video game world and live in a self-centered reality.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Context is usually a good indication. If someone leaves shortly after being downed or after being hooked, they're probably ragequitting. If they randomly fail to struggle in the middle of the struggle meter while the Killer is not nearby, their finger probably slipped while mashing the button. If they die on hook when there's only two people left, they're probably trying to give their teammate a shot at the hatch. If they just randomly DC for no apparent reason, their game probably crashed or they had some situation that needed their attention.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,166

    When it comes to Unsportsmanlike Behaviour there is no neutral ground I can take. I am also aware of the original post that started this discussion which is why I've said things the way I have said. I have never once mentioned ragequitting, all I have discussed is DC'ing - which I maintain my stance, ruins the game for the other players in the match and the only time we deem it to be acceptable is for an irl emergency or a game breaking bug - which is why the initial penalty is short, and does increase from there.

    I certainly do not advocate for anything against the game rules, which is why DC'ing is punished with a timeout penalty.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited March 2021

    I mean if you are survivor you can just die on a hook, and if you are killer you can just go face a wall and make a sandwich or alt tab and watch youtube. I generally just play them out though because I don't really care if I killer survivors or not, I just focus on enjoying the chases.

    I often run without ruin, pop, etc and don't even bother with gens because I don't consider that part of the game enjoyable. If they want to blast out the gens in like a minute they can go ahead. I find chases as survivor to be the most fun thing, same as killer.

  • usuarioreal
    usuarioreal Member Posts: 39

    Camping and tunneling also ruin the gaming experience of most players the difference is that it is accepted by behavior, and the DC does the same but it is not accepted by behavior, it reminds me of the prohibition law if people want to disconnect they will disconnect if people do not like the field they will let you know how? disconnecting from the game and never connecting again

    do not make the same mistakes as with deathgarden

  • FellowKillerMain
    FellowKillerMain Member Posts: 858
    edited March 2021

    I was getting fed up with the lag during the day, hit validation issues, and the map redesigns, so I took advice from Mathieu Cote to "Go play something else".

    I didn't go to play civilization, but elder scrolls online recently revamped their entire champion point system and are replacing all of their servers in june. It's kinda crazy because leaving ESO led to me finding DBD... but now the roles are flipped! I don't see them balancing the game any time soon, so maybe it's a good time to take breaks from DBD. Still love the game, but yeah...

    So, clearly the disconnect button is to help you find another game to play.