Killer Logic

I think the problem is 2 pronged. Survivors wanted the game to be easier for the majority. They got their wish with multiple changes so people rose in ranks easier. Solo queue got worse overtime because of this. Now ppl only play SWF or beg for buffs/nerfs for solo play.

The killers wanted to slow gen times down but BHVR decided to instead speed up chase times to match gen times instead. Thus it became difficult for a single survivor to carry the whole game.

I wonder how many of the people complain about solo Que people are the same survivors that make other people complain about solo que. Seems like with so many people saying its the other randoms are the ones throwing that there should be few people throwing.

Gonna say this till the cows come home but NERF SWF specifically it dosent have to be huge a minor action speed decrease that decreases further with each subsequent memeber joined to that group. If solo sucks stop balancing aroind swf and start separating the solo play from swf play.

Yes solo sucks but even bar the game balance argument why is it rainbow rank matchmaking. Sure you can argue rank dosent matter but back when my games as survivor had almost gurranteed purples and reds my success was much higher. Now I get greens and frigging yellows in my game. Who can single handedly get the entire team killed by wasting pallets or pulling the team to a bad spot at the start of the game.

Solo sucks because of the following resons.

A. Poor matchmaking if i see one more yellow rank survivor self caring im gonna lose it.

B. Has to be balanced in the same ecosystem as swf? Thsi is unfeasibly dumb. Swf hurts solo play it needs some weaknesses.

C. A lack of communication options current year argument why do we not have pings. Why cant i as a survivor mark a hex totem without having some awkward terrible perk that will likley never be used by a majority of the community ir create a marker that awares other players of an oncoming killer. If the argument is its too strong why the helll does swf exist?

In the end of all this, when it will be impossible to enjoy the game as a solo player or in duoQ (it's almost the case, i would say you enjoy it 50% of the trials), there will be SWF only, everyone else won't play the game anymore and developers will continue to nerf survivors cause killers will continue to cry :).

But fact is in red ranks :

• the vast majority of killers don't know what is map control, i never see any 3 gens situation during end game. They don't have a brain, they just run and use M1
• the vas majority of killers don't know how to break jungle gym layout and loop layout, and they are like pallets are too strong lol... No fact is YOU don't know how to break a loop.

@YourNightmare From my experience that's BS. I play PC and the majority are either 2 players or 3 players partys. This has been consistent for a long time now and those stats do not reflect my experience almost daily for years.

Unless you want to tell me that 3 people who just happen to be on each others friends lists are all playing solo and just happen to get into the same lobby at the same time.

By order of popularity

2 players -> 3 players -> solo players -> 4 players

Some days though the 3 players can outnumber the 2 players.

By that logic since swf are on opposite sides killers fun are not their concern. Right...

I've done this and survivors don't do gens. They hide or crouch around the map.😐 Sometimes I get good solo q players and other times I don't.

The stats are good. 50% of soloQ means you encounter 50% of soloQ players not 50% of teams composed exclusively of soloQ player.

Exemple : in a team of 2 soloQ and 1 duoQ you have 50% soloq players and 50% duoQ players.

But still SWF are almost non existent and all killer mains on this forum cry as if it was a subject. There is no subject at all, it happens 7% of the time, what are you all talking about ? You have more chance to die from the flue than to face a SWF rofl...

Anyway, you asked for a SWF nerf, now i prove that SWF doesn't exist (almost) and you immediately almost asked for a duoQ/trioQ nerf... 😂

Edit : Hop double post sorry, my previous one was in "valdiation"... check the previous one to have better explanations.

You just said 50% of all players are in a swf and then "SWF doesn't exist".

I just realised you're one of those Survivors that thinks only a 4-man is a swf. Now it makes sense why you're wrong about everything.

From my experience the majority of lobbys are swf. 2+2 I don't mind but I see plenty of 3 man (overpowered), and a fair few 4 mans (insanely op).

SWF do need a nerf I'm not sure why you're trying to argue that. Literally everyone with time and experience in the game says SWF is overpowered. Even people that defend survivor and try to be neutral says SWF is overpowered. What are you trying to prove exactly?

Pretty much everyone says it, people with thousands and thousands of hours say it, all the killer mains people love to put on a pedestal also say it, but ok they're all wrong and you're right. You're the smartest here, the only one capable of making a rational informed analysis of the balance.

And to the last part yes you fully did intend to be rude. Classy. If you're like this on the forums I can imagine what you're like in game, keep swf strong so you can give a little tap-tap of the CTRL button at the exit gates.

Killers do the same thing when it comes to camping and tunneling. It's not the killers concern whether or not the survivor has fun,well buddy let me tell you something it cuts both ways

Guys, calm down, you are fighting around something that should not be our problem, survivor or killer.

I mean, both sides have to have fun in almost every trial. There are toxic behaviors and toxic gameplay mechanics, perks, addons on both sides.

And it's not the survivor's "job" to be concerned by the killer fun.

Also it's not the killer's "job" to be concerned about the survivors' fun.

Whose job it is to your mind ? It's the developers' job, period. And clearly they don't do what needs to be done to fix the unfun aspect of the game.