Hard tunneling and camping is way to common

In my opinion if the killer is face camping and survivors doing gens to leave, this is not an actual solution for the problem. because the player on the hook is not having fun and got their time wasted.

Tunneling is something else and maybe forgivable but still annoying.

I faced only one killer today that felt pity for tunneling me after second hook.

If DBD are thinking about changes then we may see them in a few months or more.

Its a bad case of the cure being worse than the disease though.

Face camping 'self corrects' at least rank wise: it isn't gunna happen and seriously affect matches outside gutter ranks or you being so odious the killer decides to throw the match for ya (like say... bringing a key). So you generally have control over it not happening by just... playing well consistently.

Meanwhile the devs have talked about further anti-camping stuff and said flat out they aren't ever going to do it because it breaks the game too much if the killer is even a little bit punished for defending the hook outside of tempo loss, because an insta-unhook is the worst case scenario for the killer. So even stuff like 'It doesn't trigger in a chase' doesn't work cuz someone can just sit near the hook hiding and punish you even if you know they are there just because you can't chase them quickly.

I do agree that "Policy Facecamp" is a problem... but its a problem in the same way that say... DPS Moria is a problem in Overwatch... like yeah its not ideal but doing stuff to punish the character for sometimes fighting or using DPS ball rather than heal ball kinda... breaks the character and the healer role because she actually DOES need to fight quite often.

If we are looking for clear problems with easy solutions that do nothing but make DBD worse we got a lot of places to start before the relatively rare and contained issue that is facecamping.

What rank are you?

@dezzmont

Rank doesnt matter. I had a game where I almost done a Gen, then doctor chased me. Got hooked

Another survivor unhook me, tried to heal but doctor was coming, the team mate tanking a hit, then doctor on me again, until I got 2nd hook. The samething happened again until I got 3rd hook. 3 chases was long enough for other 3 survivor finish all Gens. Then they all escape. I feel good for them.

My build was Lithe, Fixate, Urban, Tenacity

I had 15k BP, killer had 19k. All my team mates had around 25-29k.

Was it fun for me when from the start to the last hook, I died in only 4 hits? No

These last days hard tunneling and camping is the norm. But probably because unfortunately I achieved rank 5, almost 4. People always say that camping and tunneling is something of lower ranks, but that's not true. In red ranks, heavy tunneling and camping is the norm right from the start, in my experience. Whenever I get a green rank, thanks to matchmaking, the killer just plays normally. They camp or maybe tunnel at 1 gens or when they're all repaired? Yes. But I can't blame them for that. But at least it's not right from the start out of despair to keep a high rank.

STOP

FEEDING

THE

CAMPERS

doubtful

You can't blame a player for using the tools in front of him.

Listen, you want to camp - have at it. There's times where's it's the right call strategically (everybody is there, nobody on gens, doors are open, ect).

But camping to be spiteful.... don't you think that makes you a bit of a hypocrite? Have a little self-awareness man.

Give them the benefit of the doubt - assume they're doing a ritual or rift and focus on getting better at beating that play man

hy·poc·ri·sy

/həˈpäkrəsē/

noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense."

Example - hypocrisy of a man who has trashed fellow politicians for vacationing during crises - vacationing in Cancun during a crisis himself.

If you are being Pendantic for the sake of deflecting my argument and not answering for your actions, I guess you're right. But does it really change anything?

Does it really detract from my point? Retribution then? Will you accept that?

And retribution fixes what exactly? Certainly doesn't make you a better player. If anything, you justify others to keep playing in a manner that annoys you in retribution of your own bad deeds. As the saying goes, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".

Admitting you camp to piss people off doesn't make you a badass - just makes you look like a small, bitter, person.

You want a better game? Be a better player and just beat them.

LMAO.... I turn 50 this year. I'm generation X. I got gray in my beard and scotch on my breath. But thanks for the compliment - most millinial friends I have are good people who just want to make the world better - can't fault them for that.

If you think I'm crying, you're sorely mistaken. I'm only questioning your motives because I used to be just like you. And honestly, I'm rolling my eyes because I see so much of my old mannerisms in the way you bluster about your retribution.

Again - I'm all about letting people play the way they want to to meet their objectives. You want to camp because the generators are done or everybody is rushing the hook - I support that. But doing it to "get back at people?"

Be honest with yourself - you're playing in a way you perceive makes you a tool because you're butthurt about how people are beating you. And frankly man, that's pretty ######### pathetic.

I'm sorry buddy, but the insecure child here is looking right back at you in the mirror.

Yes... it's absolutely a game.

But you just admitted that you let your emotions get to you by playing in such a matter.

And frankly, somebody who stoops to petty retribution has about as much right to talk about maturity as Kim Jon Un has to talk about human rights. You have about as much self-awareness as a dog licking his own #########.

Maybe one day the words will sink in and you'll realize what a fool you were...

You say that hooking everyone without tunnelling and slugging is impossible, yet myself and people I have seen in survivor games and on youtube have been able to do it without too much of a hassle. Yeah, there is usually only 1-2 gens left when it's done and over, but a longer game means more points anyway.

I'm not trying to say that tunnelling and slugging is wrong (though camping just sucks), but to say that winning a game without tunnelling and slugging isn't going to happen is downright wrong. It could just mean that you aren't playing the killer correctly, the killer you're playing isn't good enough, or the survivors know what they're doing and have items/offerings that happen to counter your perks or killer choice.

It is somewhat difficult, but it can definitely happen.

Almost every single game I get now has some stupid toxic clicky clicky tbag tbag moron in it with a boosted ego. They think they’re better than they are due to the devs being terrible at map design and balance, so holding W to run killers from safe pallet to safe pallet and having 4 second chances to rely on in case of trouble really has these players feeling themselves. I can’t stress enough how this is almost every game. They have no intention of playing normally and their whole purpose is to annoy and frustrate other people.

I’ve started playing toxic too. Facecamp and generously handing out a few slaps to survivors on the hook. It’s hilarious how everybody wants to be toxic but when the killer plays toxic all of a sudden the tears start flowing and people wanna talk about fairness and good sportsmanship. I’m gonna keep doing it with absolutely no regrets too because screw this community and the way it acts, and secondly it’s actually kinda fun.

So in the past 24 hours

Camping - Toxic

Slugging - Toxic

BBQ - Toxic

Gen defense - Toxic

Killing any survivor before all are on death hook - Toxic

Hitting one survivor while another is down or being carried - Toxic

Basement hooking - Toxic

Hooking next to gens - Toxic

Hooking at EGC - Toxic

Returning to a hook when I see a save has occurred - Toxic

You know, it's a really good thing I don't take this forum seriously enough to let it dictate my playstyle, or my killer matches would just see me staring at walls and playing with the crows until everyone left.