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Unnecessary Billy and Huntress nerfs... But when is the necessary Nurse and Spirit Nerfs?
Seriously, I dont see a reason why they nerfed Billy, because Nurse, Spirit are way more "broken" than Billy was. He didnt deserve it. Also, they are going to nerf Huntress which is an ok killer, why the nerf? The only "Broken" thing about huntress is the Iridescent Head. What is happening with the development team?
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First of all, who said they were nerfing Huntress? They're only changing her add ons as far as we know.
Second of all, although Hillbilly didn't need it, he's still a good killer, and unless you overuse your chainsaw you never really overheat.
Finally, Spirit will hopefully be nerfed soon, as for Nurse, I'm not sure if she needs one but that is up for debate. Freddy and Demo are next in line so we will see what happens after those two.
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Didn't Nurse and Spirit already get nerfed?
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Haha hatchet australia sized hitboxes go brrrrr
No/ Huntress is broken. A lot of her add-ons are broken. Her hatchets around the wall are broken. Screw huntress and huntress mains
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Is Demo getting a nerf too? Freddy is also ok, he is only "easy to play" and survivors get mad because of it
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Demo is getting an add on pass, possibly a bit of a buff to his base kit, Freddy as far as I'm aware is getting nerfed.
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Nurse is still broken if someone masters her, and also Spirit is broken which has no counterplay. But also, not impossible to win
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Nurse is completely fine, she could actually use a few buffs to her bad addons.
Spirit could use a few changes to give her power more feedback but nothing that would nerf her overall strength.
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So far it is only known that Huntress will get an Add On-Pass. This will 100% include that Iri Heads will be nerfed (finally), those outdated Exhaustion Add Ons will most likely go as well (finally). Other than that, everything is open. The only thing that she might get nerfed are her Wind-Up Add Ons, but I would not consider them problematic personally.
IMO the Billy-Nerf was justified, he is still good. You have to think about the fact that Billy got called "the most balanced Killer" for years, but the game got easier and easier for Killer. Something that is considered "the most balanced Killer" will not be balanced anymore.
However, I have to agree, if they are nerfing Billy, they will go for Spirit at some point again. The Nerf she got was almost nothing, even when removing her most broken Stuff, she is still very strong with a somewhat low skillcap.
In an ideal world, Nurse will get a full rework, but this will not happen.
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I've not heard anything about Huntress getting nerfed, just that they're giving her a small add-on pass that will likely get rid of Iri head and exhaustion hatchets.
And Billy got nerfed because... Honestly, I think they were experimenting with what they can and can't do, and as the sheer lack of Billy players tells us, they can't take an already difficult, well-balanced killer and slap on massive resource management.
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How is Spirit "broken"? Because you can't see her in phase?? That's literally the point of her power!
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Nurse is not fine. But her being hard to learn makes up for the fact that she’s busted.
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Well that's the point, mastering her is incredibly hard and if you get that good with her, you deserve the win! I don't think she needs a nerf due to how hard she is to play. High risk, high reward.
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Making Freddy completely useless again? Seriously? Why Behaviour? He didnt need this, I dont play Freddy, but this is sad news for all killer players
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Old billy was a blast to face as if you were a good looper he had no value but if you out positioned yourself you were screwed. But billy you could plan around when facing him as hes visible and has no anti loop. So he was more of a skill character than anything. Huntress will probably be a addon pass though.
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Yes but barely as it was mostly addons
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Spirit doesn’t need a nerf. Nurse needs a full rework, not a nerf. I’d like to see something that stops her breaking the game but also makes her less of a chore to play, even when you’re winning the constant fatigue gets old. I very much doubt they will ever have the time to do that though.
Billy needed his charge time add ons nerfed as they took the skill out of him. The rest is debatable.
Huntress needs iri heads and infantry nerfed. I personally think she should keep exhaustion add ons because pressing E shouldn’t counter an amazing hatchet throw but who knows maybe they will buff her in some way. She’s never really been a massively overperforming killer. Having a slightly faster wind up speed would be nice just to compensate for how many bad maps she is getting these days.
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Nurse had charges applied to her base kit and 1 blink removed from her maximum. Though, yeah, I think Spirit was just add-ons and a vaulting animation.
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Well he is a fairly easy to killer to play while being high A tier, and his kill rate is around 75%. Hopefully he won't be gutted, but he does need a nerf.
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Correct, nurse got nerfed allready.
Especially her iri add ons which are now not worth the name ultra rare, as they are more weak than that they are strong.
And yeah i believe spirit got nerfed about 3 times allready.
But hey, some people are never satisfied and won't stop until they those killers are robbed of their powers
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No he doesn’t,why killers should have a high skill cap to be strong; in every game theres strong and weak teams/players/weapons etc. Survivor mode is easy to play so why killer mode should be hard;; this is a game that people wants to play casually for fun not everyone wants to put thousands of hours in a high skill killer to have fun
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Survivors nerfed tremendously and Huntress has never been touched. Billy was only broken because of a very problematic perk, BBQ. He can spam the saw and chase the auras. Huntress is overpowered now, no counterplay on many maps and her hitboxes are broken. She definitely needs more cooldowns and add-ons all nerfed.
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Huntress OP!
You are the gift that keeps on giving Sluzzy <3
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She always had 2 blinks but with addons could get more
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I mean they aren’t wrong about the hitboxes
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If billy was considered "overperforming" in the devs eyes. Freddy spirit and huntress are dead. Billy had no antiloop. No slowdown. All he had was map pressure. And even then he was easy to loop and make it so his chainsaw got no value. But instead of addon passing him they went with the meme "he has a chainsaw why doesn't it run out of gas or overheat" so i wouldn't get my hopes up for the future. I quit billy just like others did because he got decimated unnecessarily.
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All her addons? Including her haemorrhage and locker aura addons?
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I like to think the entity endows Huntress hatchets with the same magical dark matter that he/she endows head on hitboxes with. As long as you’re within a 5 mile radius it’s all good
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She borrowed some of freddy’s claw to make her hatchets
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Nurse already got a nerf, knowing the way devs balance this game an another nerf would kill her.
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I never said he had to have a high skill cap, but him and Spirit, two low skill cap killers, need a nerf as they're two strong when compared to their skill. I'm fine with strong killers that aren't high skill but arent low skill, such as Oni, Slinger and Bubba, but any killer that can perform well without even being moderately difficult needs a nerf.
Additionally, if you're a casual player, you shouldn't care about winning or losing, otherwise you're not being casual about playing.
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like i said why killers cant be easy to play and be strong,is there a rule that says low skill cap killers should be weak; bubba and oni are low skill cap killers and strong to.If youre a casual player it shouldn’t mean you should lose every game or cant play seriously sometimes,it’s pathetic to ask some killers to be nerfed because « they are to strong compared to their skills»
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Some people are still in shock about the Nurse rework that was gonna "barely touch her basekit" then proceeding to massively change her basekit
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Killer got easier? Wait what? Have you seen the added debris in reworked maps. What about all the maps added that massively restricts his power.
For example compare og badham to new badham. The new map has way more debris significantly and is significantly less open. Billy was nerfed simply so the question of why play blight when you can play billy would be answered with because billy is awful to play now.
If theres any doubht look at how close they both recieved there changes now huntress is getting changes (ya sure im gonna buy that its only add on changes sarcasm). Which will probably follow shortly after the trickster release who also suffers from the why play him when you can play huntress. Remeber billy changes were expected to be small instead the majority of billy players were devastated to see his curving and cd massively limit him.
Billy was a balanced kiler now his turning his add on options feel so awful and lacking in actual competitive options and the cd on his saw take a lot of the fun out of the killer. There no end to the clips of people just curving around maps with billy but nah lets strap an overheat mechanic on that sometimes get bugged and doesn't decrease.
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This is straight up lies. How long have you been playing? Huntress had her wind up hatchets change maps have way more added debris that makes the huntress power way weaker. You used to be able to turn jungle gyms and get a hit but the addition of little stick barricades in maps lioe crotus prenn prevents this.
If you still doubht look at old renditions of badham vs new badham that map is way worse for huntress and that without getting to maps like the lab where huntress power is significantly weaker. Survivors got nerfed ah yes new game map was such an incredible nerf right? 60 safe pallets really? Nevermind changes to undying (needed but were doen badly) and pop, thanatophobia (completely uneeded).
On the topic of bbq no survivor worth there salt complains about this perks it is a perk that pubstomps weak survivors who are incapable of looping or evading a long distance aura reading perk. I would welcome bbq effect of double bp being moved to another way better killer tracking perk discordance, tinkerer, thrilling tremors. All would be way better then bbq which is a garbage perk that is only used for its double bp.
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No, there isn't a rule against it, but if you're playing a versus game, a 4 on 1, you're naturally going to have to work for that victory, not play casually and fairly easily 3k or 4k every game. Bubba (to me) and definitely Oni are in the average skill slot. They've got some learning which can take time. Oni is A tier and Bubba is high A/Low B. That's how it should be. The S tier should be for the killers that if you learned you'll sweep the floor with. That's why many (but not all) people find Hag and Nurse balanced, because they take time to learn. Compare this stuff with Freddy and Spirit. Do they take time to learn too? Yes, but considerably less.
That is why I want killers nerfed compared to their skills. Majority of the easier killers to learn are low tier (Clown, Legion, Plague) and they progressively get better with more skill.
I don't want Freddy to be in the same tier as Clown, Legion e.t.c, I just don't want him to be easy mode.
Finally, I ask you this. What do you think of Dead Hard, current Decisive Strike, Unbreakable and Prove Thyself with a key and hatch offering all in one?
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Because she can stay still and animation look the same as phase walk, if she use stridor its overpowered.
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Spirits nerfs have been tiny, though. For example, killing old Prayer Beads, removing collision while phasing, and adding an actual vaulting animation. She's still just about as strong as she always was, just a bit less busted.
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Base kit Billy is very similar to how he always was. Overheating is basically a non-issue unless you're running engravings and I don't think it's harder to traverse the maps now than it used to be. We just need to know where you can and can't easily saw from, which has always been the case, but on new maps we of course need to relearn that.
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"addon passes" always come with basekit nerfs lol
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Clown just had a base kit buff along with an add-on pass
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In madden,fifa,nba,pes,cod,battlefield,fortnite etc you have strong teams/weapons and weak teams/weapons and they dont require any high skill cap to play them so why should dbd require one to play strong killers; hillbilly requires the most skills besides nurse but hi is b tier at best so why he is that weak compared to the skill cap needed;; nurse and freddy should be in their current state because this game is unbalanced as it is now,and when facing purple-red rank solos or swfs you need strong killers to at least be competitive so i dont think what you’re saying has any meaning
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Tbf the old one was a nightmare for her too, but definitely agreed.
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Yes... that's exactly her power. You've just described what it does, not why it's (allegedly) broken.
And Stridor is available to all killers - how is it different on Spirit?
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Although I don't play any of those games, there are four that I can comment on. Fifa, NBA, Pes and Fortnite. In the first three, you can do good regardless of your team. Back when I did play Fifa, many youtubers would climb from the bottom division to the top division while being at a disadvantage of sorts (such as all there players being low rated). All stats mean in those games are consistency, and there arent many variables.
Fortnite on the other hand is balanced through rarity, with, atleast back when I played, weekly buffs and nerfs to weapons, completely removing weapons that were too strong. The better weapons tend to be rarer, and any of the better locations had majority of the players go there at the start.
Hillbilly isn't even in the top 3 for hardest killers to learn, take it from me, he's one of my mains, and I find him A tier. Despite your claims, you can win with weaker killers. Another one of my three mains is Clown, and I can consistently Get a 2k-4k (with the devs saying they balance the game around a 2k). I'm going off personal experience. At Red Ranks this is what I find. I win most, I lose some, and when I lose its usually my own mistakes.
Again, what do you think of DH, Current DS, UB and PT with a key and hatch offerings? I have my reasons to ask.
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Nurse at base can only blink half as often as pre nerf. It was actually a huge change.
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Were you not around a year ago? Nurse got sacked by the Devs. Not to mention the biggest nerf to Nurse was dedicated servers.
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Im not referring to career mode in pes/fifa and nba but to online matches. Play liverpool-city-man utd-bayern-psg etc against an asian team or even against an average eu team and try to be competitive. Same with nba,try to play competitively with a weak team against lakers nets celtics etc. Theres no skill requirements needed to play those teams but they are alot stronger than the other teams on the rosters so why should dbd have skill requirements to play stronger killers when your at a disadvantage of 1vs4? Hillbilly is top 2 hardest killers to learn,ask everyone. I dont care about those perks except ds wich give you 1 min immortality
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Screw you too Buddy.
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Survivor mains can't never be satisfied. Imagine nerfing even more one of the least used killers (nurse), which already is unplayable for new players and stressful for veterans.
For the love of god.. to all survivors out there, learn to play instead of asking for unnecesary nerfs, facing a nurse is easier than ever after the nerf she already get.
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Her power is stay still? ######### bro u dont need skill for that ######### xD
On spirit it gives u advantage if u phase walking omg...
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