Why is Wraith still affected by flashlights?
Seriously. Time for this to go. He already isn't a great Killer. He doesn't need this disadvantage, especially since flashlights are carried by some of the most toxic survivors.
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Honestly yea. Flashlights aren't exactly uncommon, I run them myself all the time. The timing isn't even hard either, the fact that I can counter like half of his whole schpeel by holding m2 for like a second is pitiful. Windstorm buffs and true invisibility are great, but it's time for lightburn to go for Wraith. Maybe not for Nurse. I never see anyone hit a lightburn on a Nurse.
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Because when he first released, people couldn't wrap their head around a killer they couldn't see... and the dev's knew this would be an issue... this game was unlike anything ever created in gaming history... so at the time of it's release it was Hillbilly, Trapper and Wraith... that was it...
And you'd be surprised how OP people thought Wraith was... He was one of the top end killers when the game first released because he had no terror radius when cloaked and people had a hard time seeing him... also when the game first released, killers were terrifying... like this game was heart attack inducing.
It took about 6 months before players started to understand how it all worked and yeah, he basically got neutered after that...
The flashlight thing was a way to give survivors confidence that they could fight back against him at the time... I mean it's a very archaic weakness at this point and honestly, I haven't seen a player flashlight burn a Wraith in years... I dunno know why you're complaining about it because no one ever really does it any more... also, the perk light born prevents all of this and makes killers 100% immune to flashlight burn / blind... if you play Wraith and are so afraid of flashlights, use light born... simple fix.
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I'm not really sure why Lightburn is still in the game. It's such an outdated mechanic. Is it so bully SWFs have another weapon against the two Killers it affects?
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It's just one of the many things the Devs haven't got round to updating yet, such as FOV tied to perks and not as an option in the menus, Trapper and Myers' powers, exhaustion add-ons, fog offerings, bloodlust etc. It's not there because of SWF groups, no matter how much you want to think the Devs are biased and against you.
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Hey there, beta player here. This is a really innacurate summary of how people viewed Wraith.
He was understood to be terrible the second he was released by any survivor or killer who knew the game. People complained about them on steam threads a lot but they got 'ratiod' pretty hard by everyone jumping in saying 'just use your eyes you numbskull' and while those top level threads were common (You would generally see like 2-3 on the front page of the steam forums at any given time) that was mostly because people were very eager to tell people 'his power is basically worthless' causing artificial engagement.
It really didn't take 6 months for people to 'get' he was weak, people knew already, especially because this was a time legit infinites were in the game and Wraith was the only killer with no anti-infinite tool so he just... auto-lost matches on game launch that went to Coldwind Farms, which had 3 infinite jungle gyms. Oh, and this was a version of DBD where Sprint Burst was on a 20 second cooldown, which ticked down while running. So.... yeahhhh....
Lightburn NEVER made sense in any iteration of DBD, it always was this mystifying thing, along with Trapper Trap Disarm+Map tracking where the devs were experimenting with the idea of giving survivors very specific 'hate' tools for killers. As we know, that was never necessary, which is why Billy was utterly dominant for so long.
Honestly there still is some hate in the game. Trapper's traps really need to be untrackable for example and have no interaction with any survivor perk. And lightburn still makes absolutely no sense, just like it didn't at the game's launch.
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I don't mind it being a thing still, it can be circumvented by paying attention to how you position yourself when uncloaking in front of a flashlight wielder.
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Should honestly be a very quick fix.
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Because I don't like being camped to death by a cloaked Wraith with no way to get unhooked safely. (Edit: Also, the burn effect takes like 2.5 seconds, not 1. You have a better chance of blinding him than burning him.
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I just got light burned as nurse immediately before this!
But yeah, first time ever, and I have like 900 hours of playtime, at least 100 hours of which is Nurse.
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They are biased towards SWF, and that means being biased killers. SWF has never and will never be nerfed.
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Two?
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Well considering the spaghetti code that holds the game together removing the lightburn could break totally unrelated things
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As a day 1 player, I really don't mind it, on the contrary, I quite like it.
It adds additional mechanics to the game to counter or combat certain killers or tactics.
Survivor trying to burn you off the cloak can either be a bad thing or something that will easily grant you a hit on them, depends on how you play around it.
You should always pay attention to what items survivors have, if it is a flashy, you approach them differently, even baiting them to try and burn you for the free hit.
Burning any Wraith who are decent at this game is quite challenging and will mostly only work on those who are unaware of you being there.
Thus, I think it should stay
Adds depth to a quite simple killer.
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It's not a huge deal. Maybe they should make flashlights MORE effective vs nurse Kappa
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YEah i feel it's definitly time. I mean it made no sense in the first place, since you can do it on Nurse as well, but it's not like they are the same level of power ahah
So the burn should either be on every killer or on none.
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Wow...I respect the survivor who had the guts to try it. I never bother because if you fail, its pretty much a death sentence....lol
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Wraith and Nurse. It’s just nobody knows about (or tries to) Lightburn Nurse.
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Wraith main here. It's only really oppressive when it's done by a team. Like if you chase someone and uncloak and someone else is following you with a flashlight and burning you from behind. Or if there are like 3 survivors trying to do it simultaneously. But those teams are very rare.
If it's only 1 guy trying to burn you, you can try to juke or 360 him while cloaked, don't just run straight lines or stand there. Survivors can't turn or move fast when they shine their flashlight. They usually will have problems following you. This way they will also burn up their flashlight very fast.
I had some problems with it back then when i was worse especially against bully squads, but now i play a bit more stealthy with Wraith, move and uncloak behind objects and so on. Back then i was just running straight towards them in open areas and hoping they don't see me.
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It's only inaccurate to your personal experience. You literally said the exact opposite of what I said, so it just goes to show how messed up perspectives are on this game and why the dev's can't find a balance.
It's not inaccurate at all, this was generally what people I talked to thought about him... personally I never had an issue but yes, bad players complained he was almost impossible to deal with, not everyone is an elitist like yourself that keeps that kind of company.
And you even stated yourself people created forum threads about Wraith being unbearable to deal with, they were legit complaints, the people that were complaining just refused to adapt is all.
But yeah, light burning is a moot point any way, I never see people do it.
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How do you light burn a nurse?
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I'm ok with Lightburn but I do think they should either A: Bring back/rework/upgrade an addon by having it provide lightburn resistance/immunity, or B: buff Lightborn by adding lightburn immunity to it.
Lightburn can be annoying on Wraith since it can cause weird syncing issues. I haven't tested it recently but I remember Wraith used to not uncloak when lightburnt when dedicated servers came out, which can cause you to be lightburned again when trying to uncloak, trapping you in an endless cycle of being lightburned over and over again.
Maybe it should just be changed to be a heavy slowdown when being lightburned. Not a stun but you just slow down and you can still uncloak manually during it.
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I don't play killer often, but I'd say I have a good 50-60 nurse matches under my belt and not once have I gotten lightburned. People don't even try.
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