Why is it so difficult to get professional developer answers
Yea hi you probably all remember my post yesterday
So I decided to try and get support from devs to find out if it's actually reportable and what do I find the support team that I spoke to sent me to this forum's rules page and I have already seen that however it's so unclear it says slugging is non reportable except this wasn't slugging this was mass slugging. Any other game has clear rules that if you do these things you're gone but not dead by daylight the rules are too flexible they need to update their rules otherwise too many toxic people will get away with this kind of thing.
And to conclude this rant I say devs if by some miracle you read this fix your damn game before another company launches one of the same kind because there's will most likely be better and your game will die.
Also on a sidenote this is no just about rules it's about all that is wrong with the game currently.
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Why just why have a match as killer if all you're going to do is sit there and slug everyone without hooking them? Do you forget that there are other people playing that actually want to have fun in this game leaving us on the floor bleeding out is rage inducing because we have to watch our bars slowly deplete as we die and shame on the devs for allowing this kind of play! Some of us just want to play a small game to have fun but no I now have to wait 4 mins because I refused to give the killer the satisfaction of watching me bleed out!
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Unbreakable should be base, that would fix everything.
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Enjoy your timeout then! There is no DC without penalty and no reason for DC. You could just alt+tab out and watch a 4min clip or do some situps. Being butthurt does nothing, you just gave the killer DC bonus and punished yourself, #bigbrainmove
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They just have no life and want the salt.
But, never DC, always take the points. You actually reward this kind of killer more by DCing.
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Just go AFK and make a coffee or clean something, watch videos, do some stretches literally do absolutely anything that isn't being tabbed into DbD you'll be dead by the time you come back and you can get into another game. You don't have to DC. It sucks that this happens but you'll rarely get matches against killers this insecure, it's not like you'll have to sit through the 4 minutes every other game.
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The bleedout timer is about 4 minutes anyway.
As someone who absolutely despises being slugged like this, staying on the ground is the lesser of two evils because eventually that dc penalty will outweigh the bleedout timer.
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Not moaning about the penalty I'm moaning that killers can slug an entire team with no penalty! Oh but as soon as us survivors stop working on gens it ruins everything and devs can ban us!
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Unfortunately some killers play like that. It’s boring and should be penalised more but all you can do now is go do something else while bleeding out
They get like no points anyway and will probably depip so take some joy in that I guess
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Shame on the devs? What do you expect them to do? Remove the bleed out and you can get slugged infinitely by some ######### killer. Reduce the timer and it’ll mean killers can’t snowball, you’d die (or get up with unbreakble base kit) before they can get the next guy. Slugging like you experienced is a dick move and not ok, but sometimes you do need to leave a guy down when another survivor is hanging around.
two different situations. Killer is an ass and slugs whole team = game will be over in four minutes. Survivors refuse to do gens = game won’t ever progress and holding game hostage, which is bannable
slugging a whole team to be a jerk is just stupid, but it happens. It’s only 4 minutes out of your day, and yes it sucks a lot more when the queue times hit extra long. It’s an online game, not everyone is going to play for you, move in and get over it
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What are you talking about? With sentences like that you are destroying all credibility in your statements. The killer can do what he wants and if you dont like it take unbreakable, but nooo you want DS and BT and Exhaustion perk and SpineChill, you dont want to killer to slug but without doing something against it.
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Yea shame on them they're quick to say survivors who don't do gens and just sneak around are holding games hostage but what about killers slugging an entire team yes it's only 4 whole mins but it should be just as frowned upon as walking around not doing gens
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Yea in this game you can get a penalty for steam server crash or just dbd error so yea
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SO what? If you are not DCing often its 5 min! If you are DCing often because of your internet connection then get a better one, because you are ruining constantly games for other people and yourself! And if we had no DC penalty people would DC as often as back in the dark ages of DBD. SO I am happy to get a timeout for an error once in a while to that profesional DCer will get their 24h timeouts for being cowards.
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People gave up on hooks anyway so no Im not fine for getting to wait few minutes and losing rank not for not my own mistake or my own connection which is great.
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1) Those error happens rarely, if it happenes to you often then its your "great" connection. BTW great internet speed =/= good connection.
2) You can be a coward and give up on the hook, this alteast wastes about 20sec time of the killer and is more then just DC the moment you are downed the first time
3) it is unlucky that sometimes innocent people getting falsely screwed by the timeout because of steam/server error, BUT as long as it benefits the community and the game overall its a sacrfice 99% of people with IQ above a brick are willing to make. And like many people said its just 5 min, enough to go to WC and make a tea.
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You literally gave the killer the satisfaction of making a survivor DC, thats literally what he wanted
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Do they get a bonus for people DC'ing?
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The killer? Yes!
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Wow. I didn't know... What do they get?
I don't DC because for me is encouraging them to do it again to someone else as I feel like they go in hoping someone will DC but I did leave a game with a huntress and a death hatchet addon that slugged all thinking if I DC, she wouldn't get sacrifice points and only points for brutality
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- Killers are now awarded bonus points if a Survivor disconnects (625 Brutality Points)
- Killers are now awarded sacrifice points if a Survivor leaves the game (1,250 Sacrifice Points)
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you should not need perks to counter toxic behaviour and killers letting 4 survivors bleed out on the ground instead of hooking would be banned in any other game for griefing.
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And once again with such a blunt statements you are destroying every credibility. Slugging is not toxic only because you think it is, slugging is a strategy and yes you need a perk to beat it. If you are disliking it take No Mither and you will not be slugged ever again in your life.
Post edited by Rizzo on8 -
this was a very old take. If a lot of the more integral perks were basekit (but weak) abilities, it would solve most of the problems. If anyone could 99 themselves to like "stable and ready to be helped up" and then do another bar to then get up, that would solve slugging entirely. Unbreakable would then work for actively wanting to get up, and they could even buff the res increase. Self care is already slow enough that it could almost be basekit. So many people would waste time with it, but it would be an option. The self care perk could then actually be decent again. A lot of people say the same thing about sabo, now that saboing is so weak as is. It would take a long ######### time, and wouldnt last very long, but it would once again, make items feel impactful
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Thank you so much!
They basically get the points regardless like we do if they DC.
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Self care was nerfed not to make it basekit and buff it again... you know... It was nerfed because people could heal completly while killer would break 1 pallet. Statements like this make me question how do you even play the game if you need so many supporting wheels!
I recently had a mission to escape as Laurie and I have not spend a single bloodpoint on her and I beat a rank 1 killer, had 31k BP and did better then all other survivor with DS Rank 1 that I did not even use.
Sorry to say, but to the most people here git GUD
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Waw that killer was being a community hero by helping survivors do that one difficult tome challenge and here you are complaining about it.
For shame. For shame
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They need to give option to speed up bleed out timer if a killer slugs a survivor for too long. Have it be if survivor recovers to find help they can start speeding up the bleed out timer. Can speed up hook that is only 2 minutes but not bleed out that is twice as long.
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Jesus Im not saying bring it back to 2017 levels. Just let you replace a brown toolbox with a perk slot. You would NEVER get that off in a chase in red ranks. Especially since you wouldn't have add ons. And a lot of people don't know how or when to heal as is, the primary reason self care is terrible in its current state. How about instead of being a troll trying to poke holes in anything, add something constructive to a discussion about balancing. Theres no need for toxicity rn my guy
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brown medkit*
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And Iron Grasp for killers.
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Funny. I think you are the troll who tries to balance the game around your own skill instead of play in ranks you belong into or just learn from mistakes and adapt. Perks being baseline is not helpfull at all, you are completly blinded by your own rage from some recent games that you forget what it would do across all ranks and across some of the weaker killers that need any help they can get. So sorry "my guy" you are not seeing the whole picture but just focusing on your own problems.
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I don't need selfcare to stay in red ranks. Inner strength is a far better perk for healing especially with how common sloppy seems to be rn :/
General comfort is general comfort. Even if self care replaced a medkit I still dont think it would make healing this "super easy thing to do". Unless you think a brown medkit is suddenly game breaking? Especially at the cost of a perk slot? I think you're just looking for an excuse to be angry rn
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Should i leave as soon as i knew I'm against SWF? Because 90% of my games against them are very unfun.
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There is a difference between slugging and letting everybody bleed out on purpose after a onesided match while nodding your head knowing you're wasting 4 people's time on purpose instead of just hooking them and getting it over with.
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The solution to slugging is already in the game, and its not a perk. Its teamwork, when someone gets slugged a healthy person should go get agro, then another should pick up the slug while the first person runs the killer.
Its a 4v1, use the advantage that survivors can be in 4 different places at a time.
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The OP mentions specifically not hooking the slugged people which is not any tactic, it's just griefplay.
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Just go drop a deuce instead of dcing.
I honestly like it being a challenge to try to crawl to hatch . Makes things more interesting.
If you don't like being slugged, bring something to not be slugged. You have options
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What's that? You don't want to waste minutes of your time doing nothing when you have a limited time to enjoy gaming before real life hammers you with its mundane nature again?
Well tough #########. This is dead by daylight, where the rules to have fun are dictated by adult children that firmly believe you should not care about other people's fun but you should definitely be punished if you don't consider their fun. You want to leave early so you can maximize your fun in this game you love? Too bad
Got slugged for four minutes? Just do something else! You've been waiting all day to play dead by daylight and that's what you want to do for the next hour? HAH! Enjoy your timeout you troglodyte! 12% of your time now gone as a slug, and probably 12% more in queues waiting for another man-child to show you how a TRUE MASTER plays. About 25% of your precious DBD hour you were looking forward to now gone. But hey, at least you got to do an EXCITING crawl to the finish and hopefully find hatch (you won't).
DC penalty has not fixed anything. Survivors that are dicks suicide on hook. Killers have to endure 10 minutes of taunting. Normal survivors have to suffer some kiddie tantrum killer's whims because they had the audacity to play solo. All that to please people who don't care about others anyway.
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Absolutely agree and I love how all of the people here assume this is about normal slugging and not some manchild scratching his sweaty armpits while slobbering at the thought of pissing random people with less time off by leaving them on the ground until they either disconnect or leave.
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I really don't think many of you get it the KILLER put everyone int9 dying state and so no one could get up and help anyone because WE WERE ALL SLUGGED so yea I'm the bad guy because I chose to leave a match that was stupid and not fun when a killer slugs one or two people it's understandable maybe he's waiting for D'S to run out but a team of 4 who hasn't been hooked at all! Really?
And to the toxic a holes who agree with this you're the reason this game is in the state it is survivors are toxic because killers are toxic and vice versa maybe if you all just shut up about git gud and played for fun once in a while you might realise how crappy it feels to be solo survivor or new killer!
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Again, what stops you from hanging up the survivors and ending the game instead of letting all 4 bleed out on the ground at 5 gens?
If some NEET who felt he got "bullied" by a 4man SWF who was just having some fun thinks he's a hero by getting a 4 man slug and then essentially holding the game as long as possible so the SWF has to wait for their mates instead of just queuing up again i ask you this: Who's the salty loser in that situation.
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a well deserved ban, enjoy your short break
If you can't take the occasional bad game, you have no business in multi9player games - period
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This was not a bad game this was toxic and the player should be banned for griefing
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Sounds like four survivors failed to evade the killer and keep each other up off the ground. By the third survivor someone should have realized maybe I should pick up one of the other two.
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So the NEET who needs to make a game which he already won miserable for everybody involved is totally not a loser, your logic is flawless.
The game needs a surrender option like identity V and this would not be an issue at all.
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I could see most people actively not choosing to surrender. I would never surrender myself. If a killer is going to let us bleed out I will make him have to wait.
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If I am getting slugged, i'll go outside, take a bathroom break, grab a snack, watch Youtube until it's over, there's more fun things to do then wait out a 4 min timer, staring at nothingness.
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Do you die when you bleed out?
Yes
Ergo, he's meeting his goal he's playing the game - playing the game itself is not toxic.
If he was cornering you then going AFK, I might be a bit more sympathetic.
Here's the ironic part - it takes you 4 minutes to bleed out total.... which matches the time of your ban. You ate the 4 minutes either way. Assuming he was looking to troll, you gave him exactly what he wanted by disconnecting. Congratulations, you played yourself!
LEAVING THE GAME FOR ANY REASON OUTSIDE OF A BUG IS NEVER JUSTIFIED
The fact you lbanned tells me this isn't your only offense. Indeed, you seem to be making a habit of it as these bans are based on a percentage of games you quit. Therefore, I have no sympathy for you. In fact, I would encourage you to consider finding a different game to play.
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The goal of the game is to kill the survivors, not leave them on the ground when u already won just to gloat. And no don't tell me that those people are afraid of kobe's if the whole team is still on 5 gens and got crushed in less than 2 minutes.
The equivalent would be keeping your boxing enemy who can still barely stand, who never hit you once for the full 10 rounds while taunting him. It's idiotic.
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The goal is to kill the survivor by hooks, not slug all 5 and leave them to bleed out with 0 hooks done the entire match while you run around and nod at each person on the ground, if you don't think that's toxic at all then you're delusional.
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