Dragon's Grip and NOED: 1-Shot Perks Are Grossly Unbalanced

@NomiNomad That was a good Squidward line XD From the Bubble Bass episode. Touche'.

He sleepy but vibing

The way they post, I'm starting to wonder if they secretly work on the balance team. 😂

Why are there no cute Penguin Pics in this Bait threads? Kinda disappointing :(

Once you touch the gen and scream, you should be immediately headed off of that generator, looking around for someone headed your way -- and you should be headed for a safe tile you should have scoped out before you even got onto the generator to begin with. Even a camping Wraith will have to uncloak, which should give you time to head towards that safe tile, the same way you would if you were playing against a Myers who had just reached Tier 3 or a GF who's managed to stalk you fully while you're on the gen. If you're playing against someone running Haunted Ground and being chased as the totem gets broken, you're going to be one-shot and there's about as much "counterplay" in that situation too -- is that perk OP and broken as well? 🙄

Dragon's Grip is only run in meme builds for a reason. If you know you're playing against a killer that's running it, you're going to have to be more cautious working on gens and looking for escape routes to safety if you get caught on one that's been affected. Someone on the team -- maybe you -- MIGHT be caught off guard once and downed, but after that, there's no excuse but carelessness if the killer manages to get another down with it. Since that won't be too often with a cooldown of 80 seconds at Tier 3, any killer that's spending time camping whatever gen they've kicked is going to have a short game while competent survivors will pound out gens across the map everywhere else and have an easy escape.

I play 20-25 hours of survivor a week, and I can count the number of times I've been downed by someone with Dragon's Grip on one hand with fingers left over, and I'm pretty sure that in all of those matches, DG was never a determining factor in the outcome of any of the literally hundreds of games I've played since the perk was released. While I'm a Red Rank survivor, I can promise you, I'm not that good -- it's the perk that is mediocre, and that's being kind. Of all of the things that people should be concerned with from a survivor standpoint, this niche perk with limited effectiveness is simply NOT one of them.

ETA: I almost forgot to mention the short 30 second activation period the perk has after kicking the generator to begin with. The idea that survivors have to ignore every regressing generator across the map because of this perk would be absurd. Largely, the only people who are going to be affected are people who jump right back onto a gen the second a killer has left after kicking it -- if you're coming across a gen regressing on the map somewhere, it's almost certain that the 30 seconds have elapsed and you won't be exposed (and the perk is probably on cooldown).

The Wraith can start uncloaking (silently, due to the add-on) before you touch the generator, while you are heading to it. If timed properly you will have minimal time to react to the scream and then you are downed. The problem is this specific situation, where you can't do anything except go down.

Intentionally creating such a situation is, as I already pointed out, a bad strategy for the Killer player, and also not common, but it can be done and it's not very fun for the Survivor players. That's the entire problem. The problem is almost certainly not big enough to warrant changes to either Wraith or Dragon's Grip, but it's still worth pointing out that.

While that might be something that can happen, and you can make the argument that it's not "fun", we'll have to respectfully disagree that whether that constitutes a "problem". It's not fun to have a Myers tier up on someone else on your team, pop Tier 3 on you, then instadown you either, but that's not a "problem", even if it's not fun for you as the player downed.

As someone who plays both sides regularly, there's plenty of things that aren't going to be "fun" for either side. I think people confuse "fun" with "fair" far too often. If the developers eliminated everything that wasn't "fun" for both survivors and killers, there wouldn't be a game left to play.

You could make an argument about NOED, but Dragon's Grip? Why??

Whenever I'm having a bad day I always go on dbd forums and check sluzzys post history so I can have a laugh lmao. Anyway dragons grip is only good if the survivor touches the gen even then you still loop the killer or drop pallets early. Noed is only activated at the end of the game if all totems spawn and can be destroyed as well.

I meant fur oh god they definitely do have feathers I'm sorry

I opened it to see that it was Sluzzy