So what changed in the entire extra week he had

They listened they just didn’t use that feedback. He got a buff did he not?

He got "buffed" in a way that's not impactful. He's still extremely weak.

I think what sucks the most is that he could be fixed with something as simple as some number changes and he would be much better. IMO all he needs is a fix to laceration, but he only got minimal changes.

I think it's because of his power. It's like nurse in the idea that it's fragile and anything you do it can make him OP or downright unplayable. I'm sure there are ways to buff him but to test out, tweak and make sure there are no bugs within the span of a week is kinda impossible for a game like dbd. Plus they have numerous other things to look at that arguably much more important right now, which is ranks as from what I've seen it's been extremely tough for new or casual players as they've been going against the sweaty try hards when they shouldn't even be near each other.

What a joke. I expected at least better changes on trickster.

pft

I'm honestly surprised you guys even try with the community anymore, but I'm always happy to see a new manager face.

Dr. Giggles?

Sorry if I am offending now but pls either post something informative or don't post at all.

This post is literally a copy/paste post were you can change the word "killers" and "trickster" for anything relevant at the given time.

This is less than helpful and simply EMULATES some kind of communication from the devs with the community while giving posts without any impactful content.

Yeah, and next they will complain that nobody communicates with them. Classic DBD-Forum Members.

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I am always amazed how people confuse "listening to feedback" with "being forced to change something". If they dont change something immediatly, this does not mean that they are not listening.

I'm just gonna ask you this here cause I'm not sure if you saw it, but what do you think of what I said

Also you seem pretty nice and I wish you well in your work 🤗

I feel it's hard to evaluate how strong a killer is on the PTB because there's not much time for a meta to develop. I like to point to Spirit as an example. Others will say that Spirit actually was bad on the PTB and even at launch, despite the fact that she's only been somewhat buffed since then, but I think the bigger factor was that people hadn't figured out how to play her to her full potential yet. As a result she ended up being overbuffed, and is probably still in line for a nerf even after getting a number of nerfs since her peak (prayer beads gutted, collision while phasing turned off, a proper vault animation added, etc.). There are many other examples of this on the PTB, especially relating to perks. Remember when Dragon's Grip and Power Struggle were both going to be OP?

I don't blame the devs for being hesitant to rush out changes without first getting better data for how he performs in the wild. Given Trickster's low mobility I don't think for one second he's the next Spirit, but I also generally don't like jumping to conclusions about balance. Let's see how he does and if he's bad I'm sure he'll get buffs. I wouldn't be surprised if they're already in the works tbh.

The animations were not scrapped. They're still in the game. The transitions between them were just substantially reduced.

The game is also substantially brighter now than it was historically. Many people on both sides have had no issue with the updated Autohaven maps, and some others on both sides have complained about it. Not only is there no evidence of systematic anti-killer bias, but the idea doesn't pass the sniff test. The devs have every incentive to make the game balanced and fun for both sides.

They clearly do read the feedback. Not every bit of feedback is going to be acted on, though, and the feedback that is acted on, especially for something as comparatively minor as map lighting, isn't going to happen overnight. They're still actively reworking old maps and likely want to finish that process before tweaking the reworked maps much.

There are many factors that go into which changes get prioritized. Not dropping everything to address someone's pet issue does not mean that didn't read the feedback or that they don't intend to address it at some point.

It really wasn't a huge change. They just sped up the animation transitions substantially; as far as I know all of the animations and transitions themselves weren't touched. It was probably a pretty simple change under the hood.

All of it has not been ignored. Not addressed immediately =/= ignored. The feedback on Autohaven in particular has been far from consistent. The feedback on The Game has been more consistent, but that map was only recently released. Autohaven isn't exactly old either - those reworks were only released like three months ago.

Behaviour has consistently made balance changes to new killers in the patches following launch. There is absolutely no reason to expect they won't do the same with Trickster.

Remember back when PTB to Live was two weeks and they came out and said "it's gonna be three weeks from now on"

You cannot go from that to "oh it's four weeks now" with no announcement and not expect people to continue to think it's been delayed. ESPECIALLY when last midchapter was 4 weeks and they even came out and said "This one is delayed" What they should have said back then was "okay, it's gonna be 4 weeks from now on" if that's what they wanted us to believe.

When you hold updates to a strict schedule that is easy to predict and then deviate from that without telling your community, it's a bad play, and nobody is unjustified in being disappointed that they weren't told it was delayed

they NEVER said it was gonna be 3 weeks from the PTB. People were just assuming because it's the usual schedule.