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Is This Bannable?

Earlier I was playing a game as survivor and I was put against a rank 12 Legion. Despite the toxic perks and addons he had he seemed to be trying to Bloodpoint farm with me and the other survivors. We were all sat healing each other next to 2 hooks and a generator. After a while (I assume when he maxed his Hits out) he knocked us down one by one and nobody thought anything of it. He then hooked 2 of us and camped the other 2 on the floor in case they had Unbreakable. Obviously as expected he won the game without putting in any skill and pretty much by trolling us. I reported him for this but I wonder if anything will actually happen.


To put it simply, can you get banned for tricking survivors into thinking your farming, then kill them? And, if you can get banned do you think it's fair?

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  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    But he didn't really farm considering he killed us all.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Fair enough also I mean there is such thing as a toxic build that's what I meant by addons and perks.

  • papichulo
    papichulo Member Posts: 271
    edited April 2021

    Err, no. It is just strategy. In my opinion, I don't think killers should be discussed negatively for tunneling, focusing, slugging, and farming. It is just a strategy. Remember, it doesnt matter how you play (unless your hacking or doing a bannable offense) it just matters on if the killer kills all of you. So, no.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Yeah that's kinda what I though I don't really care to much about it I just wondered. Honestly I think it's a good strategy considering he was a Rank 12 going against Rank 2, 4, 12 and 11s. I guess if the game won't put you in fair lobbies you just don't play fair yourself. And like I said he didn't really farm if he killed everyone.

  • mintchapstick
    mintchapstick Member Posts: 891

    Eh, rank is meaningless. As is evidenced by a rank 2 falling for a fake farming trap.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Considering I know what I know at the moment your post is incredibly funny and boosting me ego a bit. I didn't think it was bannable I was just wondering. I mean like I said a minute ago he was a rank 12 against much more sweaty players. If we fell for his trick then yes it's on us, but if it's not allowed I still want him to get banned for it hence why I reported him. Honestly I'm not to bothered if he doesn't get banned in a way we should be banned to considering we were going to allow him and help him BP farm.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    I mean it all seemed pretty legit he set it up really well just like an actual farmer would do. Something you have to remember though is rank does mean something otherwise how did they actually get to that rank? He wasn't that good cause at the start of the game when he was tryna tell us to farm I saw him getting looped around the killer shack. Like I said this games matchmaking is broken and I stand by that, if he uses that tactic to beat sweatier players that he shouldn't be matched against I fully support him as long as it's not classed as cheating. If DBD doesn't want us to use tactics like that they should ban camping, tunnelling and slugging because they provide just as much advantage as long as you don't know how to counter it. It's not like you can't counter what the killer did we were just stupid and fell for it. Only thing we need now is a new name for this tactic any ideas??

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117
    edited April 2021

    Well if it's not bannable I don't wanna false report someone if they aren't breaking the rules. There are enough cheaters that need to be banned there is no point in wasting peoples time. Also clever play on what I said I will give you that but it does make you sound like a 12 year old ngl.

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  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Yeah that's what I thought I mean we were all higher ranks than him so I get why he did it and I reported him because I just don't want him getting away with it if he cheated (And cause my team mate that I was talking to was really salty about it xD)

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited April 2021

    Just don't let your guard down. Generally if a killer is farming, me and my friends always try to make sure some people are fully healthy; and we break every totem before we do the last gen just in case.

    It's not "cheating" so much as a really gross long term mind game. There are a lot of them, some people will sit as bubba in basement with insidious and gamble everything on you opening basement chest lol. It's a game, some people try different things sometimes cause it's a game.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Yup I fully agree with your strategy and I will probably do that next time. Honestly we lost because we were greedy and wanted BP, I think that's fair, that's a different opinion to everyone on my time but I don't care.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    I mean no offence but tunnelling a slugging is pretty trashy when it's not deserved. I usually only tunnel if a survivor is toxic or loops me for a while (to ensure the sweatiest player dies on hook).

  • papichulo
    papichulo Member Posts: 271

    tbh at this point you cant use the words "fair, deserved, etc." and what your telling me rn is that killers cant kill survivors using their own strategies JUST BECAUSE it isnt deserved? dude-

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    I mean if you camp you get gen-rushed, that's fair. You tunnel you get body blocked, that's fair. You slug you get people hiding that's fair.

    You run the killer round you get tunnelled, that's fair. You body block you get slugged, that's fair. You try to BP farm you get tricked, that's fair.


    There is always a counter to these shady underhand strategies and they may work for a while why you are a lower rank but when you start getting to green rank people are just gonna counter them and your gonna keep loosing over and over so it's best to just get good at mind games, countering people running you round and stopping gen-rushers over killing 1 person. Obviously with better perks, items, add-ons, offerings, killers and survivors this becomes easier. I say it's not deserved because your "strategies" can ruin the game depending on the team your put against. If you camp and tunnel against a bunch of rank 20s then your gonna get an auto win without putting in any effort. I wouldn't even call camping, tunnelling and slugging a strategy unless you use it to counter something the survivors are doing or it's the best way to play for the killer your using. Sitting next to a player with Insidious as Wraith is not a strategy it's just playing bad. Sorry to break this all to you but it's true.

  • kaeru
    kaeru Member Posts: 1,568

    Top 10 anime betrayals.

    When you accept farming offer from killer you should always keep in mind he can kill you. Sure 99% of killers will let you escape while farming. But you still can find killer like this legion. You take the risk.

    It's not bannable because you actually let him kill you. It's silly to report killer for doing his objective. As silly as calling perks and addons toxic.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,837

    Technically, farming is NOT bannable. Devs have said this many times.

  • Freki
    Freki Member Posts: 1,903

    where as farming is not playing the game as intended, you and the killer are doing this so you would only get yourself banned if it is a bannable offense. HOWEVER, if you FORCE someone to farm and it is possible, that is a bannable offense. if someone had gone off to do their own gens and what not and the legion kept knocking that person down, bringing them back ad nauseum, this is forcing the farm thus it is bannable but not because he decided to STOP farming at some point.

  • mintchapstick
    mintchapstick Member Posts: 891
    edited April 2021

    No. Rank means literally means nothing. You keep acting like it means something. Like... I'm a rank 14 killer right now. Does that mean that I'm new to the game? No. I was a red rank killer and I took a 4 month hiatus & I've been playing Trickster instead of playing seriously. I'm a rank 12 survivor right now, does that mean that I'm new to survivor? No. It takes me about 2 - 3 days of playing casually to end up in red ranks.

    I'm not a good player, and yet it takes me almost no time to end up in red ranks on both killer/survivor. It's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of grinding.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,062

    Not bannable. Just dont help Killers with farming or Challenges then. I also stopped doing it after a Legion killed me when I helped him get his Challenge to stab 5 people, so he killed myself and the other guy helping him.

    Its a scummy move to pretend you are farming as Killer and then kill the people you are farming with, but it is not bannable. Makes it harder for those who actually need help with their Challenges, but eh.

  • BioX
    BioX Member Posts: 1,378

    my god this forum is so cringy sometimes

  • BSVben
    BSVben Member Posts: 256

    Judging from your liberal and frankly ridiculous use of the word "toxic" in this thread, you would be better served by spending some time learning what it actually means, in the context of this game.

  • EvilJoshy
    EvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,295

    I dont suppose you have a link to prove this? Cause I've always heard the opposite.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,837

    Not offhand. Search for dev comments in the forums. They have said many times farming is not bannable but you cant force someone to farm.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,921

    I'm going to clear up a few misconceptions on this thread.

    Technically we don't ban for farming but it's a very grey area - if you are forcing players to farm with you, then yes that's most definitely reportable.

    In the instance that the OP reported above, there was nothing that happened in that match that was reportable - it seems like the survivors were happy to farm with the killer, the killer then chose to kill the survivors, nothing wrong with that at all, it's basically the risk you take if you choose to play a farming game.

    I personally don't farm in games, if the killer is just wanting to farm I will do the gens and get out because I find it incredibly boring and just want to get onto the next game and I've also never farmed as a killer - if I want to get achievements etc, I play the game normally to get them, even if it's harder...that for me is part of the challenge of playing.

  • Ruma
    Ruma Member Posts: 2,069

    ,,toxic perks"

  • BubbaDredge
    BubbaDredge Member Posts: 816

    "No fair, a killer was playing the game, but not in the way I wanted! Everything a killer does is toxic, I am a crybaby!"

    No, playing killer is NOT bannable. We can kill you however we want to, killing you in a way that gets points is THE OBJECT OF THE GAME.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    Do you literally know why I made this post? I made this post because I did this in a game and one of the very upset players told me it was bannable. I said I was a survivor because people on the forum seem to be very judgmental just like you. I feel as if you are a player that sits in front of pallets t-bagging the killer then gets mardy when they get tunnelled. Also let me explain what I consider a toxic build. I consider a build toxic if it provides an unfair advantage towards the killer while they themselves act in a way that is toxic. For example a Huntress with the best anti-genrush build in the game who camps and tunnels with Iridescent Heads launching hatchets from across the map.

  • BubbaDredge
    BubbaDredge Member Posts: 816

    I misunderstood. You have to admit we see that ######### a lot, I'm just used to lots of crying.

  • DerpyPlayz
    DerpyPlayz Member Posts: 583

    In any case, IT is NOT bannable to kill survivors for any reason other then cheating.

    Imagine if it were, special requirements that you could meet to kill a survivors and then get banned for it that would be dumb.

    Tunneling, Camping, ect is also not bannable and its also a terrible strat depending on the survivors.

  • DerpyPlayz
    DerpyPlayz Member Posts: 583
    edited April 2021

    The first objective post from a mod that is logical and helpful that I have seen on this forum.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    I mean I have come across killers that fake farm before but usually I just leave to the other side of the map and avoid them considering killers are either extremely toxic or pissed off due to the terrible matchmaking putting them against red ranks when they are like rank 13. That's the reason I fake farmed, the bad matchmaking. The kid that got extremely mardy cause I killed him by fake farming was like a rank 4 obviously he was used to being put against bad killers due to the bad matchmaking so when he looses one game he was in tears bawling his eyes out cause I was being "toxic" when fact of the matter is he probably does the exact same or similar thing.

  • RealKamakaze
    RealKamakaze Member Posts: 117

    I don't agree with camping or tunnelling unless it's deserved or a counter and the reason for that is it doesn't teach new killers how to counter looping or mind game so when they get to rank 13 - 15, when they go against smarter survivors they loose really, really easily and this just breaks matchmaking even more. If a killer camps or tunnels me I die on hook not only because it's a waste of my time but because I am not gonna sit there and let a killer sit smacking me on hook being toxic, killers like that need to get good. I mean a perfect example of a player like this was a prestige 3 Cannibal that was camping me on hook with Insidious and when my friend got me off hook obviously he tunnelled me only to DC instantly when my friend sabotaged the hook I was on. That killer is a perfect example of someone who was put against survivors not on the same skill level as him due to the bad matchmaking and him never learning to play the game good.

  • DerpyPlayz
    DerpyPlayz Member Posts: 583

    Again, it depends who you are going vs.

    If it is a team of survivors who are a bully squad, you will camp and kill two survivors with optimized play and force a perpetual checkmate or you will allow the survivors getting a 4k escape if you don't unless you are a god nurse.

    Its very effective vs new survivors as well, as they are more then likely to just hook farm they're teammates or go down in the process however I think this is frowned upon as its the boring route that is not needed to win the game.

    Then you have the teams of survivors who never unhook unless you leave the person, but stay around in the vicinity waiting for you to leave. This if you can prove to yourself this is a team that is doing this, the best play is to camp as its the best response and counter play to what the survivors are doing as it both wastes time for them and ensures hooks.

    As for incredibly adaptive survivors, but not very optimized, it actually would be a blunder camping as they would just do gens.

    The list really goes on, but it is a strat that is viable depending on the situation.

    Tunneling is almost never advantageous however as it can cause a lot of issues, such as allowing survivors to do gens and you not getting downs.

    It does have its times however, such as someones last hook, they do gens and then you meet them later, ect.


    Also what you just said was a good example of a meme basement build, it tells you nothing of how well that player is consistently, nor with other killers.