killers should get a 5th perk but it's a dedicated hex perk

Wouldn't balancing around SWF hurt solos though?

Survivors already have more than 4 perks it's called swf which has kindred, bond and OoO built in. I love how people on here try to say "we talk about random stuff in swf not killer" yet I have faced streamers went back to their past broadcast after they go offline and watched my match to hear them constantly feed eachother information on my location, what I'm doing and other critical things like that.

Survivors in this game are carried by swf and/or meta perks without these the majority of survivors wouldn't even make it to purple ranks.

No.

So because SWF is unbalanced we should buff all killers by giving them a 5th perks slot?

What about solo queueing survivors? What about already strong killers?

the problem is is that the SWF system isn't the problem, 3rd party software like Discord is, the game was never meant to be balanced around the survivors knowing where the killer and each other are at all times

I used to say Hex perks should scale with the number of totems left on the map, but BHVR doubled down on the current totem design instead. Imagine a world where Third Seal automatically hits all four survivors, and they have to cleanse at least two totems to start getting it off of survivors.

Imagine playing with friends in silence...

No lol, why not give survivors a slot for an exhaustion perk either way it's a bad idea

The way they play make it extremely obvious, there's only a certain level of coordination possible without communication. You can't see survivors auras without certain conditions and perks, and entire teams blatantly rotate around flashlight saving people.

What are you talking about ?

The game is mostly killer sided. Plus, SWF only represents 5% of the trials.

Honestly, this forum should be cleansed from killer fan boys creating buff killer threads 100 times a day.

it is better to actually buff killers and balance maps and perks.

I think there definitely is an issue with killer and survivor perk balance (Survivor perks are often more impactful AND the survivors get four of them), and with hexes, but I don't think that adding a 5th perk slot makes sense. Adding a second offering slot? Absolutely, 5th perk slot? Nah.

Hexes really need the following to make sense as a design:

• Reworked spawns so they are never in plain LOS of a generator OR an approach to a generator OR common loop objects
• They should never be 'active' until the first instance you gain value. It should be impossible to cleanse DH until you get a hook, impossible to cleans ruin until a gen regresses even for a bit, impossible to cleanse seal until you hit someone, ect. Haunting Grounds and undying can light up based on either your other totem condition if you have one, or after 1 minute if you don't.
• Survivors should be encouraged to cleanse unlit totems so that if you run a hex its more likely your hex totem is 'out of the way.' Like making some sort of end game mega-buff for the killer based on remaining totems makes sense to help even out game times: if you rush gens the killer is so deadly in endgame that they probably can secure a down or two, if you cleanse totems the killer has more time to try to get early pressure.

You do all that and hexes are coherent. They are still perks that can be removed from the killer, but they aren't nearly as often a 'dead perk' because survivors can't just see a glowing hex totem on a hill and remove it before you even get your first chase.

They should just make dull totems more of a part of the game than they are. Let just having dull totems up give some sort of passive effect that's not too strong but does something for the killer.

I really don't agree with that. A fifth perk is not the solution.

But I do think swf should be signalized to the killer somehow. Because it's one more advantage to a role that is already stronger than the other. It would give more awareness to killer and more power to choose if they want to dodge or not. Specially because klillers are not allowed to switch killers anymore (which doesn't really make sense).

And killers who don't mind going against swf would still do so, while those who do mind would simply move on to another lobby.

thats not only a bad idea, its also not possible due to the existance of Haunted Ground and the therefore emerging problem of being able to create builds that require 6 Hex totems, when only 5 exist.

4 Perk slots are definitely enough.

if you want a Hex, sacrifice on of those. its a high risk - high reward kind of deal, where you risk the perk blowing up and you not getting usage from it, but in return you also get rewarded with a perk that is much stronger than the non Hex Perks (at least in theory, there are a few exceptions ofc - e.g. Blood Favor or Third Seal).

you basically have to ask yourself: do i want lots of power or do i want consistency?

personally im all for consistency, so i never run Hexes. Though i can also not deny how god damn strong they are, considering ive been carried by my Devour Hope more than once (used to run that on Pig when i had no alternatives, it either blew up right away or it basically won me the game).

also your idea would, funnily enough, be a shadownerf to all Hexes.

because with having said 5th Hex-only Perk slot you make it so every killer always runs at LEAST one Hex, as there no longer is the downside of you having to sacrifice a Perk slot for it (which in itself just completely contradicts the concept of Hexes). This means every Survivor is gonna go on a Hex Totem hunt when they spawn, screwing over Hexes such as Devour or Lullaby that require a buildup - or NOED, as that requires a Dull Totem to stand when endgame hits, so not only do you draw unwanted attention to those, you also make it so if there is no other Hex Perk, everyone immediately knows you run NOED, so that wont ever activate either.

Not at the current moment in time with totem placements.

It's easy to find totems and break them, it wouldn't change much unless you had it on a good totem map.