"DS NERF RESULTS"

I wasn't around for old noed or machine gun builds. I started just after that. I do remember old MoM -.-

Don't remind me of old MoM...

In my scenario, nobody provoked the Nurse to camp. She just did. I was running to the hook and she was still sitting around it about a quarter of the way through this person's hook state.

What am I supposed to do there? Let the survivor go into struggle because there is literally nothing you personally can do to help the other person from going into struggle?

It didn't make stupid decisions. You HAVE to make these decisions sometimes and have ability to stop it from happening unless you leave the person as death fodder.

This is why DS is so hard to make adjustments to, because tunneling can happen in many ways than just immediately off the hook. Just because someone TOUCHES something for a while half a second does not mean they're not being tunneled.

DS itself is just a very flawed perk by design because there is no way to balance it where it can prevent tunneling of many forms. Now it only protects against straight hard tunnel off hook instead of helping against any other form of tunneling.

I'm not saying DS didn't need to be nerfed, but it is hard to balance it for more overall purposes or too little.

I never ran it. Now people dropped it and killers are tunneling their pants off cause they know it got dropped by a lot of Survivors. I am not enjoying the increase of camping and tunneling. But, I also like that it got nerfed cause of the abuse.

I really wish more of you could see past your bias blinders.

NoEd has a really easy counter, literally bust every totem, ruin you can break the totem, BBQ’s aura reading is more of a hint giver on the survivors location, and is countered by lockers and is also easily countered

DS however was literally the jack of all trades built into a perk, you had pressure that was built simply because someone was the obsession, the survivors could literally sit on a generator and be unkillable (can’t slug as DS is always used with Unbreakable) and in the endgame, DS at an exit gate meant your kill was quite literally robbed

Exactly this. I started playing DBD very recently (late January) and have enjoyed the game immensely. I only ever ran DS for a short amount of time and never tried to abuse it (in measures of taking unsafe hooks in front of killers or any other describable "toxic" behaviors) or was BM. Since this patch has been released, I have been tunneled off of hook more times than I can count. Still doing the same things as I was before - getting unhooked, trying to just get out of the ######### vicinity of the killer, and find a safe space to recover. I haven't been able to make it passed the part where I'm unhooked because I'm downed again in less than 10 seconds (can't get distance, palettes used by other teammates) and immediately rehooked and just proximity camped until I'm dead on hook.

I get that it's a "valid" strategy for the killer, but it's an incredibly unfun one and makes me not want to continue to play this game. Just tonight alone I played DBD queues for about 3 hours, and in only one game was I not tunneled off of hook. That one game? My friend decided to run a bodyguard build to essentially protect me because of how ridiculous it got.

This includes kiting a killer for about 2 minutes, getting downed, getting unhooked with borrowed time, being able to loop them again for another 30ish seconds with *three people being off of gens and attempting to take protection hits for me* and being rehooked again. Someone went down intentionally on me so the killer would be forced to pick them up over me. This wasn't a SWF full stack - I was playing with one friend.

It's absolutely ######### ridiculous and just so incredibly tilting. It's not like I'm playing bad, but being unable to play because the killers I'm being pitted against can't see passed me is not fun.

I can't play against less toxic killers unless I continue this system and de-pip my way all the way into brown ranks at this point because it's a behavior that carries on from green to purple to red ranks. Even then, brown rank killers then get NOED after applying 0 pressure the entire game. This just sucks.

I guess working on a gen, in the killer face, is balanced?