Notice how almost everything about trickster is being ignored

Imagine wanting to have time to wait and see where improvements would do the most good, instead of just randomly buffing ######### in the hopes it works.

I mean, they could have kept him in the ptb 2 months longer, and he would come out perfectly optimized... For PC. Then in 2 months or so they'd still have to adjust for consoles.

Are you fr????

The killer has been out for three days. I don't know how this translates to the devs ignoring feedback. You're not going to get a full picture of the killer's performance on the PTB, and the devs have historically tended to make small changes from the PTB and while saving bigger changes for upcoming patches. Absolutely nothing suggests they're going to leave him as is.

I am quoting a DbD Dev that said this yesterday.

I am sure he will receive buffs as well, but they claim they will not be looking at him for 2 months.

As others have said, this isn't set in stone.

It's been three days. BHVR just don't work on that kind of schedule.

I'd say they were naïve in thinking the minor buff they gave after the PTB was enough, but they won't make any major changes now until the mid-chapter patch at the earliest. That doesn't mean they're not going to take feedback from now into account for that patch.

I'm surprised this opinion is so uncommon on the forum. I 100% agree. It's inefficient and sometimes even counterproductive to make sweeping balance changes based on PTB feedback. I'd much rather they take that feedback into consideration and address any glaring issues before launch, then make sensible improvements once they have a chance to see how the killer is performing in the wild.

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I have not played Trickster yet myself (still saving up shards), but my impression from playing against him is that he's very map dependent, but not powerless. He's actually pretty solid on maps with a large percentage of loops he can throw over. He's even stronger than Huntress in those loops, as the sheer amount of blades he has means he has a huge margin for error and will almost certainly land enough blades to do damage (especially given that he has Main Event). Against Trickster, if the survivor is unable to use the injured speed boost to get to a tile with higher walls, they're dead. Against Huntress you could probably even stay at that tile and dodge unless the Huntress is really good.

His relative stealth is another advantage over Huntress. Especially with M&A he can punish people repairing unsafe gens pretty well, whereas she has the lullaby to contend with. It's probably easier to land eight "melee knives" than a melee hatchet as huntress too; the fact that missing knives isn't punishing in the slightest does tilt the engagement in his favor, and like Huntress or Plague he can follow that up with a quick M1 for fast downs.

That said, though, if you're on a map with lots of loops that he can't throw over, he's in trouble. That map-dependent-ness is similar to Huntress too, but his is even more extreme because Huntress can definitely handle loops that can't be thrown over better than he can. At least she has the 50/50 at pallets where she can either swing through or pull back to throw her hatchet in anticipation of a pallet drop. If Trickster pulls back to throw knives and the survivor drops the pallet he still won't be able to land enough knives to do damage. Without that possibility for a 50/50 he's at a huge disadvantage in that situation, especially at 110% speed. I don't think there's a worse killer at loops like that.

As far as I know he can't charge up Main Event and then save it for later, though, which is a shame - that way he could at least be opportunistic to ratchet up pressure. It'd also be cool if he could ricochet knives in his base kit. That way he might be able to make his own sorts of 50/50s if he's good; like, let's say you pull back and start throwing knives as a survivor is dropping a pallet. You might only land a few knives right away before the survivor breaks line of sight, but if you could ricochet knives you could land additional hits when they're around the corner. It also just feels like it would raise his skill ceiling, which is great.

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As is he's still fun to play against, he looks fun to play as, anyway, and he's alright on some maps. Plus, until MMR is settled and performing well, matchmaking is probably going to be a bigger factor in whether you win with him than how strong he is. So @Moxie, while I'm surprised to hear that, even a few month delay before changes doesn't seem like it'll be the end of the world, assuming they're prioritizing changes that will improve the game more. If Trickster is performing extremely and unreasonably poorly on the aggregate, though, I wouldn't be surprised if they re-prioritize making changes.

To be fair this is nothing new.

As people have already stated they typically do minor tweaks from a ptb.

The devs stated a while ago that new chapters will have more changes in the mid chapter patches after release to give them time to gather data. The ptb afterall is played by such a small minority and is not on all platforms. Its primarily to check for bugs in the upcoming chapter.

Hear hear!

If social media is usually a means for making one come across as a morally-corrupt, materialism-driven narcissist: I think a high percentage are doing a great job.

Here it is! This is how they show their love for us. Why would I play a game if not even it's devs can do something good? Bugs are everywhere and with every update we encounter worse and worse bugs, unbalanced ######### everywhere, but a weak af killer has to be added, hitbox is crazy, dead hard is useless. Oh, I am so silly, they add us skins and we can spend 15$ and look nicer while going to "have some fun".

That video just pissed me off so much wow. Almo is something else

I'm sure some do, and those folks are enjoying the content on Twitter. Doesn't say the anything about what the devs are actually doing or planning to do for game balance.