People who play without spine chill. How is it working out for you?

I love love love using spine chill, it's in my main build but when I play without it I don't have any issues.

If you look around you usually can spot any ambushes as long as you have escape route. If you don't and are injured, you're clearly gambling and rely on killer beiing eslewhere.

I used to be like you that ran spine chill for every game and when I took it off I felt vulnerable for a while. I recommend you change spine chill for windows of opportunity, a lot of people think it's a perk for beginners but it's really not, it gives you an idea of what your movement is going to be when the killer chases you so it extends chases for a lot of time. I find stealth killers only a problem on indoor maps, if you're aware of your surroundings on most of the other maps you should be fine.

Same. I play with headphones as well, so even if it's a stealth killer I can usually hear them coming (Wraith snarls, Michael breathing, Ghostface cloth wooshes, etc). Managing your gen position is key as well. I think the only time Spine Chill would be super helpful is against a Tier 1 Michael with a scratched mirror. Otherwise there's much more useful perks out there

It's called being alert.

Except sound.

Also - Ghostface also can't stalk me on the other side of the wall. Again, positioning and situational awareness.

Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean I can't. I do fine.

This.

Ghostface, when close, makes a decently loud noise with his cloak. It's called "a tell".

You just refuse to accept that other people are better than you at something. Please, learn to accept that you're not the greatest survivor alive. Holy moly, lol

I wouldn’t worry about it, it’s a life saver in solo Q where you don’t have to be overly concerned with your teammates dying. Only in SWF I’d worry about bringing team oriented perks.

By the time you hear a wraith or ghostface it’s probably too late and they are basically going to get a free hit on you. By the time you hear a tinkerer Bubba saw you are well within chainsaw sweep range. Deathslinger can walk around a corner and you are already in his attack range. Or maybe you don’t know that a speed addon tinkerer Oni / Blight / Billy is about a second away from paying your generator a visit.

I get so many free downs with Tinkerer and stealth killers, I’m running silent bell on my wraith half the time. I do range addon nurse + monitor and teleport onto gens from outside the terror radius.

There’s no shame in using spine chill.

I have eyes so I dont need it 99% of the time against most killers but I still run it sometimes just cause of how much it lets me ######### with stealth killers.

I currently run

Inner Strength, Decisive Strike, Kindred and WGLF. I don't run spine chill, honestly my weakness is definitely stealth killers, but I am worried if I run Spine Chill I'd come to depend on it too much, and also I just don't want to drop anything from my build to run it.

The last time a Ghostface grabbed me it was in the House of Pain at the very beginning of the match, when I found his totem and in the two seconds between my scans he showed up, and the bad audio occlusion kept me from hearing him. This was some time before the Silent Hill Chapter came out, and I know this because I was still playing Bill (I have this recorded) and I've played Cheryl since that chapter.

In general it's really not that hard to hear the stealthies coming, and once they've revealed they're a stealth killer it's not that crazy to keep your eyes open. Generally if it's been 30 seconds, no one's been hit, and I haven't heard a TR I assume a stealth killer and act accordingly until I'm told otherwise.

I think your responding to the wrong person dude.

To be fair, spine chill is a multi purpose perk, due to the gen and especially the vault speed bonus. Not necessarily just for urban evading cowards.

I know, but it's still really annoying for any stealth killers

I enjoy spine chill!! Usually use it when I play, can’t let that sneak Myers creep on me ;)

It’s funny, but every time I take spine chill off, the first round I play is against Myers or Ghostface on an indoor map. And they usually can see through walls. I’m not even joking, it’s like the game intentionally scans the lobbies for the worst killers for me to go against without spine chill. So back on it goes, lol.

Hearing Ghostface’s cloak and Myers breathing works but even that has its limits because other sounds like gens can mask their approach.

I use spinechill, but I never replace my eyes with it. If you need spinechill to avoid getting grabbed off a gen by a stealth killer, your using it wrong. What it does best is less 'killer detection' and more 'get inside the killer's head.' There are plenty of situations where you know the killer is near but knowing if the killer is visually tracking you is helpful.

If you find it is a must-run perk, I suggest you learn to play without it. Once your good without it, try running it. It does wonders at LOS blocked loops and stuff like fade aways and oldschool jukes to know if they worked or if you need to start running again.

I never ran it to begin with so I just got used to the game real fast w/o it. Not very hard to spin a camera to keep an eye out. Its just a waste of a slot for me compared to something else that I get real value from. But to each their own!

You can literally apply this thinking to any perk. Like why even use perks at all if you're going to be ridiculous about it?

Honestly nowadays most maps are wide open to a point where playing against stealth killers isn't that "hard" because you can spot them easily.