Devs are Purposefully Putting Low Rank Killers Against High Rank SWF
Not only that but SWF is gaining the system by always having at least one purple rank in their SWF while the rest are red rank. Just had a match where I faced off against three red ranks and one purple while I’m rank 12. I DC’d cause honestly I’m fed up with it. They raged at me saying why didn’t I play. I stated I’m not playing a match that is stacked unfairly against me. You all outranked me. They countered that’s not true cause we have one purple rank so that’s fair. It’s not. Not to mention they were all on comms. I should have known better than to even give a Twitch streamer a chance, I figured maybe he’s just streaming solo. Of course they never do. I watched his stream and of course he was telling his friends where I was, where to lead me, tell them which gen to work on, etc etc. I’m tired of Seal Team 6 sweat squads. It’s not fair. It’s really not. Devs are doing this on purpose I feel like. They want to give survivors low rank killers so survivors have a more enjoyable experience and less of a challenge. I’m sick of it. I’m not playing that way. Either fix the matchmaking or I’m DCing from now on.
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This is HIGHLY stereotypical. Swfs are not any different in coding for matchmaking than solo survivors, except for seeing them in lobby and such. How dbd is coded, matchmaking could be random. Just wait until mmr comes back.odds may be stacked against you, but you have to try. Thats how you learn to manage most situations. Also, use factual arguments. Saying a twitch streamer was salty and then saying you will dc until further notice only degrades peoples ability to understand what you mean.
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I don’t learn anything as a Killer cause there is nothing to learn against a 4 man SWF on comms. Unless I learn hacking and can listen in on them in real time. There is no counterplay to constant updates to their team on what I’m doing, where I’m at, and what each person is doing.
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I understand, but swf isnt really an easy problem to fix. I dont know ahat to tell you, i usually play solo, but theres,really nothing you could be punished for except toxicity.
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If the SWF was of equal rank to me I would complain less, though they still have a huge advantage. What makes it worse it’s they always place me against red ranks SWF sweat squads. Even if I wanted to get better that’s not teaching me anything. It’s like tossing a middle school football player into the NFL and telling him “git gud.” It’s better to DC in my opinion cause if enough people complain about killers DCing against SWF either they will punish SWF, which seems unlikely, or punish Killers harder, which seems more likely. Honestly I’m fine with either. Cause if they punish killers more then more killers will leave and their game will suffer hard. Then they will actually have to think up a solution.
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Ranks did their job of dividing skill levels well. However, it also led to exploitation of rank division. Theres no point in complaining about rank anymore because mmr is bad fir everyone, Especially me. Im going from yellows to reds because i dont care about rank. Its all about skill.
Im not telling you to "git gud", im just telling you swf is really hard to fix because its a core game mechanic.
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Once you reach Green Ranks, you can match up against pretty much anyone. When you face off against SWF like that, you have to set yourself a goal other than "Get a Kill". Learn from a chase. Try to figure out your mistakes. If you just give up, you're missing out on experience. Does it suck? Yeah, it kinda does. But it's just matchmaking for you. It's all a matter of who's available to play in a match in a given region. Otherwise you'd have players with ridiculous ping. (I had a match the other night with someone with 1000 ping! They were teleporting all over the place. They weren't lag switching, because I downed them super easy)
Best thing you can do is honestly lower your expectations. Players with more experience and advantages like comms are going to naturally do better than you.
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Segway, dbds core mechanic is very low.
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Why should that be? You’re basically saying lower my expectation of fun and hopefully I’ll get better and have slightly better fun, but in the end still lose due to SWF. Constantly losing isn’t fun to me, even if I get better and suck slightly less.
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Lol yeah. And they want to turn DBd into a competitive Esports game. What a joke.
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Dbd is not fun or fair in most scenatios fir both sides. Swf, camping tunneling,etc. All of these are game changing things that make the game not fun for everyone. Its complicated to fix, but one day hopefully dbd can be fun fir everyone. Thats what im trying to work towards with my posts. I want a fun and fair dbd that is good for everyone. I think about everything in my arguments, but swf is something even the greatest dbd players could not make fixes for. Saying i dont know what to tell you, i mean bhvr is heavily focused on their own updates instead if the community and swf is still a core mechanic, and dbd and chatting apps like discird arent affiliated.
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These are all things you get for free without conseqeunce. It is very difficult to make fixes like this.
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Im just trying to make dbd better.
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Exactly.
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If killers must play alone, survivors should play alone too.
This is the way I think.
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“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.” - WOPR
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If they removed swfs, people would just be trying to search lobbies to get with their friends like before when they didn't have swfs. And then killers would have crap load longer wait times. Never gonna happen. Get over it
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I purposely depipped over and over to get out of red and go back to green.
I'm still getting 4 player SWF in red ranks.
like #########
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simple.
Add a cooldown to prevent that ######### if they keep spamming it over and over.
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The devs have said they do NOT want to stop survivors from playing with their friends. Even they play swfs with comms too. I play killer, swfs doesn't bother me at all.
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Just switch to spirit or nurse that's what I'm doing.
No point in playing anyone else because every other killer is so weak.
And SWF wonder why killers only play those 2 while constantly demanding nerfs from every god damn killer
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More like there are less High Rank Killers like because It's easier to uninstall this game than win against constant high rank SWFs.
It's not fun, I rather play Bloodborne, Dark Souls and Doom Eternal on Nightmare because they are hard but feels fair but when I play against 4 Man SWFs Rank 1s it Hard and feels BS 90% of the trial.
I'm a Rank 1 btw getting Rank 1 Survivors too and I'm so close to taking a break again. if I take a break again the Rank 1s SWFs I'm going against will probably go to lower rank Killers.
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How I ranked up and got better as killer is I just sucked it up and took the L until I learned what worked and what didn't work. If I lose, I lose. It doesn't really tilt me because I'm still in the learning process and it's just meant to be that way.
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Most swf will be red rank because of the advantage it gives.
There are not enough killers to give them a game so the devs esentially remove match making once they wait to long.
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I really want to enjoy this game. I do. Sometimes I have great and fair matches. But most of the time I’ve lost the match before I even get a hook with how fast gens go. You have everything going against you as killer and as survivors you can make multiple mistakes and still make it out ok. Make one or two mistakes as killer and that’s it.
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And thus less killers play in turn. It’s a vicious cycle of going through new killers and losing them to support survivors.
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My Green Rank Apprentice,
Your anger, your hatred makes you more focused, more powerful. Choose your best killer, use your best addons, tunnel and camp. Bring NoED just in case.
Put the fear into them and make them suffer! This is the only way you discover the true nature of the force.
Honestly, there is no controversy why red ranks keep purple rank in the team. This person will pip eventually with this kind of team. And probably that purple rank does not play a lot of DBD. I've been through what you have described. The cure here is not to give a lot of f*сks about the game. This is a great opportunity to to learn the game in a hard way. Instead of watching TTVs trash talking you for their 2 viewers, I'd rather watch some youtube vids or streams from killer streamers like Otzdarva, TrU3Ta1ent, OhTofu, Umbra, Bronx, Ryuga and others. I did this and greatly improved my playstyle.
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Yep unless you are playing with a top tier killer, swf feels always really unfair and sometimes even with top tier killers. They are completely broken but it has been always like this and the devs really don't want to balance that neither give solo survivors the same advantage and then balance everything.
Its hilarious then when you come here to the forums and you see post like "why everyone plays freddy, spirit, nurse, etc".. and the anwers is plain simple.. cause SWF.
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please stop calling some group of friends seal team 6
you're learning the game. ranks are awful in this game. i am sorry. but REAL seal team 6 squads are VERY few and far between.
however, considering your skill level, any team that has a minimal amount of coordination IS going to be a seal team 6 equivalent for you because of that. sorry, it's just how it is learning this game. hopefully, MMR improves your experience mang.
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Lol, yeah I played against a SWF full of rank 1s last night & they lost their mind because I disconnected early. I have a lot of patience, normally, but I was getting tired of running from pallet to pallet.
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When they were stating stuff like “lead here him here and I’ll stun him.” “Totem near shack, someone get that while I lead him away.” Etc etc. yes. That’s a seal team 6 to me.
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I dunno, this is just a guess but I feel like there simply isn't enough red rank killers for all the survivors so it throws green ranks in. There aren't enough killers anyway, most that stick it out to red ranks are either twitch streamers, or a few masochists like some of us on the forums. Most people just don't want the stress of it and leave. So after having the red rank swfs wait forever in a lobby it just grabs the first halfway suitable killer it can find that isn't on the other side of the world.
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it really isn't, that's just normal swf using basic callouts.
but i get where you're coming from considering where you're at. that level of play is going to be way too intense for players that aren't at high level play. i understand completely.
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And how is a beginner killer supposed to reach green ranks when we keep coming up against survivors far more skilled than we are? Please don't mention MMR, that's been promised to be "coming soon" for how long now with nothing concrete in sight?
Trying to learn as a new killer is an unfun slog, full stop. The best I've managed is to get to rank 17 before I got depipped again and again facing teams of red & green ranked survivors.
There has to be a better way, but it's clear that the devs have no intention of rectifying the situation.
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Yea sure, but even with Bad SWFs, the coordination is still there where they can optimize Gen Times. This happens a lot in Red Ranks where Survivor are potatoes in looping but as you're a Killer with no Map pressure "Clown on Red Forest Maps" 3 Generators can be done in 3 Minutes if you're playing for fun and not bringing anything Gen Slow perks which feels pretty unfair. Like in my experience in Red Ranks, you can have someone on Hook and someone slugged and see someone with BBQ and Chili Staying on the Gen and as a killer you can do nothing as leaving the hook to chase off that survivor doing gens at the other side of the map will lose the game for you.
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