for the last time survivors, NOED ISN'T A PROBLEM, it's your fault it triggers

I see victim blaming is the trend of today. I guess it's the killer's fault for injuring survivors and letting them get DH up too.

If the survivors had any indication of the presence of a hex perk, as well as a totem counter (like how you can use an obsession to detect a possible DS), the situation would be different. Even then, a notification of NOED specifically would be very much in order, since hunting for totems can range from walk in the park to those glitched tractor totems that even satan fears. But they don't. Hunting for 5 dull totems is a hassle, and unless they're in a 4-man SWF, there's no way to know you've cleansed all totems. Plus, most cases will have it so that there will be no NOED; necessitating that much time wasted just to stave off one potential outcome is a pointedly unhealthy direction for any game.

Moreover, complaining about "gen-rushing" is completely missing the point. That's an entirely different topic, most of which revolves around the killer side. The survivors are literally just doing their objectives, and it's what they're expected to do. They can't get mad at us for "hook rushing," and the converse applies. It's the job of the killer to apply pressure to stave off gens; it's not the survivors' job to spoon feed you. With very powerful killers, generator speeds grind to a halt. Given, it is unfortunate as it requires the average killer to pretty much tunnel, which is another issue in need of addressing, but NOED is a far cry from a solution. With weaker ones, the survivors are literally doing what they get paid to do. Stop whining and pick up stridor Spirit; she's more fun than some people would have you think.

The point of NOED is not to stave off generators; use pop for that. The point of NOED is to give beginners a second chance by giving them a lot of power, none of which was earned or worked for. That's where the innate issue of NOED is. A perk is supposed to enhance you, not win the game for you. Devour requires you to work for it. Make your choice requires you to work for it. NOED requires that you play sloppily and says, "Don't worry, here's a little gift basket," and inside of that gift basket is a literal bazooka. That is a fundamentally unhealthy mechanic. It is simply far too powerful for what it intends to be, which itself is a pretty unhealthy mechanic. It's specifically meant to bring undeserved kills, and a counter as RNG-dependent as doing 5 totems, which again, necessitates a totem counter, is not a counter at all. That's like saying you should bring exposing add-ons and killers specifically to counter dead hard. Get off of your soapbox and maybe drop that condescending messiah complex.

Survivors can bring 16 perks into play. One of them could be Small Game or Detective's Hunch, so finding the last totem shouldn't be problem anymore. That's why I bring small game every match instead of most know meta perks that aren't as meta as anti-totems perk. Now, any other argument that's isn't "some totems are too hard to find and I don't have an anti-totem perk on my team"?

Counterpoint: solos shouldn't have to use perks and items for information that SWF get for free, and having this be the case is what causes killers to be so weak in comparison to 4men sweat squads on comms as killers can't be too overbearingly powerful as to destroy solo-queue play.

WHY WOULD YOU EVER SUGGEST NOED IS MY FAULT FOR TRIGGERING! OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD DO SUCH A THING!

jk jk, but that's honestly what a lot of survivor mains sound like when trying to counter argue. Personally if I'm playing survivor and noed activates I do take a bit of responsibility for it activating since I could have probably spent a little more time finding and cleansing totems. I won't take full responsibility since there are 3 others, but depending on their "role" in the match I might take more responsibility. Like if someone ran the killer around for 5 gens I'm not going to expect them to have done anything but run so I might take a third of the responsibility. Either way it doesn't matter I still take responsibility for the activation of NOED.